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Judge halts Bible giveaway at Mo. school
AP on Yahoo ^ | 9/7/06 | Jeff Douglas - ap

Posted on 09/07/2006 10:51:37 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

ST. LOUIS - A federal judge ordered a small-town school to suspend a program that gives free Bibles to students, saying it improperly promotes Christianity.

U.S. District Court Judge Catherine Perry also scolded school officials for continuing the program after warnings that it violated the Constitution.

South Iron Elementary in Annapolis, a town of 300 in southeastern Missouri, has quietly allowed Gideons International to hand out Bibles to fifth-graders for years. After concerns were raised last year, the then-superintendent consulted with the district's attorneys and insurance company and recommended that the handouts stop, but the school board voted to continue them.

Acting on behalf of two sets of parents from the district, the American Civil Liberties Union sued in February in federal court in St. Louis.

"The defendants were repeatedly told that their actions violated the Constitution, but they chose not to heed those cautions," Perry wrote in the preliminary injunction issued Wednesday.

A final ruling is not expected for months.

Eastern Missouri ACLU legal director Anthony Rothert said the injunction was "a victory for parents who want to direct the religious upbringing of their children without interference from public schools."

Erik Stanley — an attorney for Liberty Counsel, part of Jerry Falwell's Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va., which represented the school district — called the ruling unconstitutional and said it would continue to fight the case.

Gideons, based in Nashville, Tenn., distributes more than 63 million pocket-sized Bibles each year in hotels, prisons, hospitals and schools worldwide, according to the organization's Web site. A spokesman for the organization declined to comment.

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On the Net:

School district: http://schoolweb.missouri.edu/southiron.k12.mo.us

Eastern Missouri ACLU: http://www.aclu-em.org

Liberty Counsel: http://www.lc.org


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: aclu; annapolis; antichristian; bible; bibles; christophobia; culturewars; gideons; godhaters; judicialoligarchy; moralabsolutes; religiouseducation
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Now if it was Korans..

Judge Perry is a 1994 Clinton appointee

1 posted on 09/07/2006 10:51:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Arrest the judge!

End judicial tyranny!
2 posted on 09/07/2006 10:53:29 PM PDT by Prost1 (I get my news at Free Republic!)
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To: NormsRevenge
saying it improperly promotes Christianity.

Yeah, well I think U.S. District Court Judge Catherine Perry improperly promotes corrosive secularism and the social and moral nihilism it produces.

3 posted on 09/07/2006 10:56:09 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: NormsRevenge

There must be the right not to be bibled at [ditto for being koraned, torahed, rigvedaed and so on] against one's will. The least they could have done was to ask for the willing recipients and hand the bibles to them only.


4 posted on 09/07/2006 11:02:48 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: NormsRevenge
Judge Perry would look the other way on free condoms from NAMBLA, I suspect.
5 posted on 09/07/2006 11:03:01 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Support The Troops-Support The Mission--Please Visit http://www.irey.com--&--Vets4Irey.com)
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To: GSlob

The least they could have done was to ask for the willing recipients and hand the bibles to them only.

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That would seem to be a reasonable approach.

The article says 2 sets of parents were the complainants in this instance. This program had been going on for years it seems.

---Acting on behalf of two sets of parents from the district, the American Civil Liberties Union sued in February in federal court in St. Louis.---


6 posted on 09/07/2006 11:08:01 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge
Or condoms.
7 posted on 09/07/2006 11:08:42 PM PDT by msnimje (What part of-- "DEATH TO AMERICA" --do the Democrats not understand?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Perhaps that explains why he seems to have more than passing familiarity with the U.S. Constitution.


8 posted on 09/07/2006 11:09:31 PM PDT by micro-faraday
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To: GSlob
Being handed a bible is going to hurt someone?
9 posted on 09/07/2006 11:10:10 PM PDT by msnimje (What part of-- "DEATH TO AMERICA" --do the Democrats not understand?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sheesh. I still 2 or 3 little Gideon Bibles from when I was in school 20 years ago. I'm not particularly religious, but I was never offended or threatened when I was handed a Bible.


10 posted on 09/07/2006 11:17:40 PM PDT by Huntress (Proud owner of Norman/Norma, the transsexual attack cat.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Not THAT book! Oh my!


11 posted on 09/07/2006 11:33:59 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: msnimje

Forcing anything , be it a bible or a roll of toilet paper, on those who do not want to receive it, fundamentally hurts.


12 posted on 09/07/2006 11:44:16 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: NormsRevenge
> Now if it was Korans...

An interesting speculation.

But suppose it actually WAS Korans. How would you feel about that?

Suppose it was copies of the Jehovah's Witnesses' "Watchtower". How would you feel about that?

Suppose it was copies of a Hare Krishna cult's recruiting booklet. How would you feel about that?

Suppose it was a pamphlet explaining that while one (other) brand of Christianity is true, your particular brand of it is wrong and your children are going to burn in hell for heresy?

Once you let "our" side hand stuff out, you gotta let 'em ALL hand stuff out.

I'm not at all sure I feel good about that.

13 posted on 09/07/2006 11:47:00 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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Acting on behalf of two sets of parents from the district, the American Civil Liberties Union sued in February in federal court in St. Louis.

Thank God for the ACLU, protecting American children from the Bible.

And which side do you think they would be on if this was Porn?

14 posted on 09/07/2006 11:48:00 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: Abram; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Allosaurs_r_us; Americanwolf; Americanwolfsbrother; Annie03; ...
so you cant give away bibles in a MO school but california school kids have to pretend to be muslims for a semester according to another freerepublic thread that i cant find right now. Yeah thats consistent and non hypocritical

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15 posted on 09/07/2006 11:51:25 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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> Thank God for the ACLU, protecting American children from the Bible. And which side do you think they would be on if this was Porn?

Oh for Pete's sake. The ACLU might defend the rights of adults to view porn, but even they know better than to claim kids have a right to it.

As we attack the ACLU, let's at least keep our minds clear. It improves our chances of winning.

16 posted on 09/07/2006 11:53:01 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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Forcing anything , be it a bible or a roll of toilet paper, on those who do not want to receive it, fundamentally hurts.

Give me a break!!!! They're not FORCING anything on anyone - they're handing them books. The receivers are perfectly free to reject the bibles, take them home, color in them or toss them in the trash.

17 posted on 09/07/2006 11:55:15 PM PDT by Shethink13
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To: NormsRevenge
NOTES:

1. The First Congress of The United States of America funded the printing of bibles with taxpayer money. These were men with much familiarity of what was, and was not Constitutional.

2. Nearly 60 years after the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified, the Taft Supreme Court extended the "incorporation doctrine" to include states (local government and schools) in the First Amendment restriction upon CONGRESS and the establishment of religion.

3. It is this 1925 Supreme Court ruling that is the foundation for all subsequent rulings against religion in public schools, state and local government.

4. The only way of setting aside the 1925 ruling is a Constitutional Amendment restoring the First Amendment as it was ratified.
18 posted on 09/07/2006 11:58:51 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: dayglored

Thanks for your comments. I left the sarcasm tag off, should have probably put it on.

Just curious, what would one give an atheist? a gift book or maybe a road atlas so they can find their own way?

It doesn't sound like anyone was actually forced to take the offering of the Gideons.

More so that the offering was made that was offensive to a few parents.

if anyone is at fault , it is the school board, but then the question will be if they are within their bounds to act as they have or should an outside org. be able to exert undue influeence over what is ideally a local operation. the parents can always move if they were that offended is what comes to mind, or maybe homeschool.

it seems when the few are allowed to determine how the majority should live, no one is satisfied.

i don't feel too good about that myself. when choice is gone , so is hope, it seems.

we'll have to see how this plays out or if it just peters out.


19 posted on 09/08/2006 12:01:12 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: GSlob

"Forcing anything , be it a bible or a roll of toilet paper, on those who do not want to receive it, fundamentally hurts."

I don't believe force was an issue.

"A federal judge ordered a small-town school to suspend a program that gives free Bibles to students..."

This is a freedom of speech issue.

Would you consider a politician offering bumper stickers and pins on the street corner fundamentally threatening?

Would you consider a school offering free condoms to students an act of forcing them to have sex?

Is your fear in the Bible itself?


20 posted on 09/08/2006 12:02:06 AM PDT by unsocialist
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