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Yes, the problem is 'Islamic fascism'
Jerusalem Post ^ | 8-13-06 | William Shawcross

Posted on 08/14/2006 6:04:27 AM PDT by Renfield

It took President George W. Bush to tell the truth to Britain about the massive plot to blow US-bound airliners out of the sky. In his first comment on the apparently foiled attempt to explode airliners flying from Britain to the US, Bush put it simply: "This was a stark reminder that this nation is at war with Islamic fascists."

He is right. But in the early news reports in Britain the words "Islamist" or "Muslim" were hardly emphasized. Let alone "extremist" or the dread word "fascist." Instead the common code words on television were that the 24 men arrested were "British-born" and "of Pakistani origin."

No mention of their Islamist ideology. Did the BBC think they might turn out to be from Pakistan's embattled Christian minority? I don't think so. In Europe the truth is so terrible that we are in denial. Perhaps it is understandable. We simply do not wish to face the fact that we really are threatened by a vast fifth column - that there are thousands of European-born people, in Britain, in France, in Holland, in Denmark, everywhere - who wish to destroy us. They are part of a wider war, what Tony Blair rightly calls an "arc of extremism" - Islamist extremism.

YOU SEE this denial in the coverage of Israel's war against Hizbullah.

Civilian deaths in Lebanon are utterly tragic. But if you watched only British television, particularly the BBC, you would be hard-pressed to understand that Israel has been forced into a war for its survival, one in which Iran has empowered its proxy, Hizbullah, to undertake the final solution of "the Zionist entity." The fact that since Israel pulled out of southern Lebanon six years ago Hizbullah has been allowed to hijack the whole area to create a vast attack station whose purpose is only to destroy Israel, is taken for granted and certainly not shown to be a cause for opprobrium.

Protesters in London have been marching through the streets carrying banners proclaiming "We Are All Hizbullah Now."

Do they know that every Lebanese child killed is a triumph for Hizbullah and a tragedy for Israel, as well as for Lebanon? Do they know that among the prisoners Hassan Nasrallah demands that Israel release are men arrested after rejoicing in smashing out the brains of Israeli children?

Do they know that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the eager seeker of nuclear weapons, considers the utter destruction of Israel an Iranian priority? Or that Hizbullah's Nasrallah has said that he wished all Jews would gather in Israel so they could all be destroyed at once; and that there is no creature more disgusting in the world than a Jew, "and note that I said a Jew, not an Israeli"?

THE AWFUL thing is that many of those who march in support of Hizbullah may well know such things. Those who don't know them don't want to trouble themselves. And it's not just the extremist marchers. Reasonable, conventional armchair critics concentrate on the mistakes of Israel rather than the evil ideology of Hizbullah. They refuse to acknowledge that a small, decent society is now literally under the threat of death from an illegal fascistic military machine built throughout the hills, valleys, towns and villages of southern Lebanon.

As the American historian Victor Davis Hanson recently pointed out in these pages, there is a kind of moral madness at work here.

We refuse to admit that there is a pattern to global terrorism. European papers are frightened to publish cartoons which some Muslim leaders demand we censor, but are happy to portray the Israelis as latter-day Nazis. Not for nothing does Hanson say we have forgotten the terrible lessons of 1938.

IN A LIVE BBC interview recently, I called Hizbullah "Islamo-fascists." The interviewer said nervously, "That's a very controversial description." I replied that it was merely accurate. She brought the interview to a swift close.

But how else should one describe a military machine that marches under the banner of a demagogic leader who seeks above all to kill Jews?

Its not just Hizbullah, of course. The same ideology of hate and destruction motivates al-Qaida, perhaps the inspiration, if not the controller, of the arrested British bombers.

In Britain we are actually quite lucky. We have a prime minister who, in my view, has committed many, many errors at home; but abroad Tony Blair has a clear vision, both moral and pragmatic, of the threat that we face.

And for this he is mocked and abused as nothing more than Bush's "poodle."

In a thoughtful recent speech in Los Angeles Blair spoke of fighting an "arc of extremism." That extremism is Islamic extremism, whether it is inspired al-Qaida or by Teheran, whether its foot soldiers are Sunni or Shi'ite, whether they were born in Britain, or southern Lebanon, or Iran, or Saudi Arabia, or anywhere else. As Blair said: The battle is over the values that are to govern the future of the worlds. "Are they those of tolerance, freedom, respect for difference and diversity; or those of reaction, division, hatred?" "This is war," said Blair.

Alas, it is. Wherever they were born, the men who want to blow up airliners, who want to destroy Israel and, not coincidentally, who want to kill all hope of a decent society in Iraq - are Islamo-fascists who are united in hatred of us.

The sooner we in Europe understand that, and that they must be defeated, the safer everyone - Christians, Jews, Muslims, and non-believers - will be.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blair; bush; extremism; islam; islamism; islamofascism; muslims
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To: exit82

AMEN, AMEN AND AMEN!!!


21 posted on 08/14/2006 9:45:08 AM PDT by EASYACES (Ignorance is curable, but stupidity is forever)
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To: Candor7

"Now we must defeat the Iran/Syria/Hamas axis, and it is unfortunate that Olmert does not have the religion that Bush and Blair obviously do.

Olmert had a chance at greatness, and instead, he looked the monstor in the face, shivered, and ran away mumbling liberal pronouncements on a victory that does not exist.He will go down in history as an liberal Islamofascist apologist.

But I believe the ultimate nuclear armed axis which the Islamofascists are striving for has not yet happened becuase of British and American intervention, and we are on the right path, but are far too willy-nilly and apologetic about it."

I agree with you fully, specifically on victories in Afghanistan and Pakistan coming around. Iraq likely will have a decent outcome, time will tell. We also blew an opportunity in supporting this resolution without addressing specifics on how Hezbollah will be disarmed. I try to stay positive, but am pessamistic when our country doesn't have the stomach for what needs to be done despite it being distasteful. We remember Nazi fascism and the final result. Now we see the same unfolding with a potential nuclear armed foe with the same maniacle tendencies and are skirting the war that must happen.

War has been declared on us from Iran and Hezbollah in 1979. Continuing to do nothing for their naked aggression has emboldened them. Islamic fascists that view us as cowards will attack us in bigger and bigger ways as was the case with Al Queda, until the Trade Towers were destoyed and we finally did what is necessary. The next attack will likely be nuclear and will as a nation will have to respond with horrific violence on the entire Middle East, instead of a painful but measured sacrifice now.


22 posted on 08/14/2006 11:42:58 AM PDT by quantfive
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To: Candor7

"One laughs at people like Hillery Clinton, John Kerry, John McCain, And Howard Dean ( Vermont's Village Idiot), who presume they have what it takes to bear the ring.They are aligned with the forces of Mordor, and are weak in spirit.They tremble in the shadows of the Nazgul."

I don't put McCain in the same camp as the left. However, my anology to the left in regards to Lord of the Rings is that they represent the union of the Two Towers, they are like Sarumen the wise, who chooses the path of the strongest vs. what is necessary to defeat evil.


23 posted on 08/14/2006 11:46:28 AM PDT by quantfive
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To: quantfive
my anology to the left in regards to Lord of the Rings is that they represent the union of the Two Towers>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Excellent analogy, I am a little rusty on the Lord of the Rings, remembering more about Tolkien's biography itself. His work came out of a high degree of personal suffering as a result of totalitarianism and fascism. Hi writing was done to expiate a large degree of that suffering, to give it meaning. I belive his lterary work makes an excellent paradigm to explain the nature of Islamofascism.

24 posted on 08/14/2006 12:53:50 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: quantfive
The next attack will likely be nuclear and will as a nation will have to respond with horrific violence on the entire Middle East, instead of a painful but measured sacrifice now.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Agreed, and it is painful to watch history repeat itself . This is a war for the annexation of Lebanon by the Islamofascist axis. THe Nazis began with Alsace Lorraine. One can only hope that world leaders will somehow recieve the necessary briefings on such historical parallels.

The West Bank is intended to be the next annexation, and Jordon stands in the way.I weep for what will now happen in Jordan...and no one is even talkinig about it.....yet.

25 posted on 08/14/2006 1:02:31 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: exit82

No flame here.

On the contrary, I'd like to nominate you for President!


26 posted on 08/14/2006 1:10:09 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Deo volente

Look Im a Bush supporter in the war against the koranimals..but dont you all think calling a spade of spade shouldnt have taken 6 years??? I mean c'mon.!


27 posted on 08/14/2006 1:27:15 PM PDT by samadams2000
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To: Renfield

Two articles of interest from The Stiletto:
CAIR Doesn't Care: Part II and Hate Crime or Home-Grown
http://thestilettoblog.com/2006/08/11/the-daily-blade--cair-doesnt-care-part-ii.aspx

Terrorism? Either Way, CAIR Doesn’t Care.
http://thestilettoblog.com/2006/07/31/the-daily-blade.aspx

From Part II:
Commenting on the alleged terror plot to blow up several airplanes traveling between England and the US in midair, President Bush said, it was “a stark reminder that this nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to hurt our nation.”

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) ...immediately jumped down the president’s throat: “We believe this is an ill-advised term and we believe that it is counter-productive to associate Islam or Muslims with fascism," said Nihad Awad, CAIR’s, executive director. He added, “We urge … [Bush] and … other public officials to restrain themselves.”

Predictably, the CAIR Statement on Alleged Airline Terror Plot focuses less on the plot itself and more on pressing the dubious claim that American Muslims are under threat of a backlash now more than ever ...

Just 49 words on a plot that if carried out, would have killed thousands of people, destroyed the aviation industry and likely crippled the economies of the US, Europe and Asia as a result. And 158 words on how the real victims in this thwarted tragedy are … Muslims.

From Part I:
On Friday afternoon, Muslim-American Naveed Afzal Haq, 31, allegedly burst into the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle, shot one woman to death with a semi-automatic pistol and wounded five others ...

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a Washington DC advocacy group that describes itself as “America’s largest Muslim civil liberties group,” issued a pro-forma statement condemning the attack ...

This statement is notable because it is rather uncharacteristic for the group to condemn violent acts by Muslims in the US.

The CAIR Web site includes a 43-page archive of press releases (30 to a page) that chronicle every instance of someone looking crosswise at a Muslim - The Stiletto methodically reviewed every page - and each such press release attempts to magnify every isolated incident into proof of pervasive anti-Muslim hatred in America. ...

At least half a dozen press releases concerned slurs and epithets directed towards Muslim college students by their non-Muslim (that is to say, Infidel) peers, as well as a shoving match or two. But CAIR never issued a press release denouncing Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, an Iranian who deliberately plowed his SUV into a group of students at his alma mater, University of North Carolina, to “avenge the deaths of Muslims around the world.”


CAIR instead issued a press release three days after the incident titled, “Two New Polls Show Negative Image of Islam In U.S.” ...

Apparently believing its own overwrought press releases about widespread anti-Muslim violence in the US, CAIR has published a “Muslim Community Safety Kit” to “protect” Mohammedans from murderous American Christians and Jews who have formed terror cells to plot and execute lethal attacks on them.



28 posted on 08/14/2006 2:29:13 PM PDT by theothercheek
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To: Renfield
I am going to knock it up a notch. Bam! Islamo-genocidists
29 posted on 08/14/2006 2:51:49 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: weegee

"Muslim Supremacists" - I like that - I think it's a more accurate description than Islamo-fascists.


30 posted on 08/14/2006 8:22:32 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: aquila48
Well it is what the militants are.

Islam is its own politial/legal ideology.

It would be like trying to define Nazism in terms of Communism.

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The muslim supremacists see society as 3 tiered. Muslims at the top, Jews and Christians (people of the book) beneath them (and with lesser rights by law), and "everyone else" (Hindus, Buddhists, Atheists, ex-muslims) at the bottom.

"Co-existence" comes from acknowledging their supremacy.
31 posted on 08/14/2006 9:04:23 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


32 posted on 08/15/2006 5:13:43 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

Bookmarked. Thank you Coleus...more and more people are catching on, it would appear....


33 posted on 08/16/2006 9:39:29 PM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: Renfield

bump


34 posted on 08/17/2006 1:07:46 AM PDT by Maeve
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To: Renfield
You can't solve a problem until you are able to identify and acknowledge a problem. The left and it's media meat puppets have waged a highly successful campaign of obfuscation in the form of "PC" to attempt to shame the public from recognizing the true enemy here.

Seems like that's all about to end.

35 posted on 08/17/2006 1:39:03 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Jack Bull
The attacks on Israel, the jets that were to explode over America, and August 22. All related and all probably lead back to Iran's President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

And let's not forget that the guilt for it will belong to the Left, who has done it's best to keep the US and Britain from doing anything about it.

36 posted on 08/17/2006 1:40:30 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Renfield

bttt


37 posted on 08/17/2006 1:41:25 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: PogySailor

bttt


38 posted on 08/17/2006 1:42:33 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Renfield
Do they know that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the eager seeker of nuclear weapons, considers the utter destruction of Israel an Iranian priority?

They know, and they don't care, because the world hates the Jews.

39 posted on 08/17/2006 1:49:18 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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