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Bleu Copas, shown Wednesday, July 19, 2006 in Bristol, Tenn, was a decorated U.S. Sergeant and Arabic language specialist dismissed from the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg, N.C. under "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." Copas says he never admitted being gay and his accuser was never identified.
1 posted on 07/27/2006 7:39:01 AM PDT by SmithL
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2 posted on 07/27/2006 7:39:32 AM PDT by SmithL (The fact that they can't find Hoffa is proof that he never existed.)
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"But the papers also give the reason for his dismissal."

I question this statement. What exactly does it say on his DD 214? The article already states that he received an honorable discharge so the section that address character of service will say honorable. Many years ago the military put reenlistment codes (RE) on the DD 214 but this practice has been stopped. So I wonder what on his DD 214 addresses his supposed homosexuality?


5 posted on 07/27/2006 7:44:55 AM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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Bleu Copas

Sorry, but thats just about one of the gayest names I can think of.

Having said that, if he is an Arab language specialist, and we supposedly have a hard time coming up with such people, maybe we coulda made an exception for him?

6 posted on 07/27/2006 7:45:46 AM PDT by Paradox (Removing all Doubt since 1998!)
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It was the show tunes on his iPod that did it.

Personally I think it's a waste to discharge this guy. Don't we need Arabic language specialists at this time?


7 posted on 07/27/2006 7:47:10 AM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam.)
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BFD.

AP, all homo news, all the time it seems, pretty much the same as the NYT.

For such a small portion of the population, these deviants sure command a disproportionate slice of the news pie.


8 posted on 07/27/2006 7:47:19 AM PDT by Pox (If it's a Coward you are searching for, you need look no further than the Democrats.)
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It is a shame that someone who wanted to serve his country is now unable to. He kept his private life private and who ever this source is needs to come forward and be a man and stop hiding.

Our country is wasting to much money. The money being wasted to train new people as mentioned in the article could be going for better uses. I believe people should be allowed to serve their country if they choose to do so and are fit mentally and physically. There was no reason for this guy to be kicked out. DADT needs to come to an end.

He choose to defend and represent his country unlike majority of these code-pinkos and other left wing liberal anti-troops nut jobs out there.
9 posted on 07/27/2006 7:49:00 AM PDT by FloridianBushFan (I support National Security. I SUPPORT HR4437 . Katherine Harris for Senate)
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A decorated sergeant and Arabic language specialist

Some things are just more important than the War on Islamofacism. Thank God our priorities are straight.


13 posted on 07/27/2006 7:56:14 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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If you're in a foxhole and taking rounds, you don't give a damn what the guy next to you does with his gun as long as he can shoot straight with his rifle.........


14 posted on 07/27/2006 7:56:37 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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The "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy, established in 1993, prohibits the military from inquiring about the sex lives of service members, but requires discharges of those who openly acknowledge being gay.

That might be what the "don't ask don't tell policy" says, but the question here is whether the soldier in question engaged in homosexual acts, which it sounds like he did.

That being said, one might say that it is impossible to suppress one's sexual urges. The problem is that the Clinton administration wrote the policy that way and didn't change the UCMJ. If he engaged in homosexual acts while in the service he is eligible to be discharged.

15 posted on 07/27/2006 7:57:39 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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Actually the law is not "don't ask, don't tell." The law states that homosexual activity is incompatible with good order and discipline, and mandates discharge of homosexuals. The DoD policy is not to ask questions so long as no one gives answers.
16 posted on 07/27/2006 8:01:46 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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We NEED this guy! "Arabic language specialist"
We have kicked so many gays out of the military who were also Arabic language specialists and now we have a severe shortage of them for intercepting and translating messages that could save us from another 9/11 !


17 posted on 07/27/2006 8:01:57 AM PDT by buffyt (America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people. Pres. George Bush)
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Funny, with this story, the guy making the anonymous statements/threats is actually less of a real man than the gay guy.....at least the gay guy isn't hiding anonymously.


22 posted on 07/27/2006 8:24:38 AM PDT by Bones75
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" more than 2 million soldiers, sailors and Marines dismissed for all reasons since 1993..."

2 million military dismissed in 13 years? I know nothing, does that make sense?

If they asked in the beginning and if the answer was "yes" the applicant was shown the door, all this would be solved at no cost.

Don't Ask Don't Tell is better than an open door policy, but much better is to weed them out during recruitment.


27 posted on 07/27/2006 8:37:28 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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Private Fudgepacker need not worry...the ACLU will (at least try to) save the day for him.


52 posted on 07/27/2006 9:32:17 AM PDT by bigdcaldavis (Xandros : In a world without fences, who needs Gates?)
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A decorated sergeant and Arabic language specialist was dismissed from the U.S. Army under the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy,

Let's see if I understand this. We're hundreds of thousand documents behind in interpreting. We don't have enough interpreters in the FBI, in the military, in the CIA and other agencies. We give special training to an individual who is elevated in the ranks and is decorated and who wants to serve his country. But his orientation negates all of that. Stupid, just plain stupid. If we keep this up we'll all be speaking Arabic and converting to Islam.


53 posted on 07/27/2006 9:34:14 AM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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First of all (Just My Opinion) but there has to be more to this story. There is no way this went down this way. The command getting a few e-mails from ananymous sources, the sargents asking that question like that, him not actually saying he was gay....no way would the command put themselves in this position over this evidence. I sincerely believe that there has to be more. Remember this is a newpaper article with a reporter that we just love. sarc. This is another hit piece for the military. This kid looks like he is straight...I know you really can't tell. But my thinking is that this kid WANTED to get out and possibly sent the e-mails himself. Remember this guy has a paid for by the government language that is and will be sought out for years. Even though he turned down the Iraq thing, he can work in many areas in Homeland Security or whatever...of course I could be wrong but I just have this feeling I am right.


55 posted on 07/27/2006 9:38:20 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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A decorated sergeant and Arabic language specialist was dismissed from the U.S. Army under the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy,

You have 10 intercepted documents written in Arabic

One of the 10 documents tells where a nuke is located that will go off in 30 minutes. It takes 25 minutes to interpret each of the documents.

You have 10 interpreters for the 10 documents but one is gay.

Discharging the gay means at least one of the documents won't get interpreted in time to find the nuke and react.

Military: "Get him out of here, we have no use for gays in the military"

sure, makes sense to me.


56 posted on 07/27/2006 9:49:10 AM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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If he wants to serve, who cares as if he's gay. In the service, he does have to be discreet about it and will catch sh-- from some people, but that's life. I'm glad he got the honorable.


62 posted on 07/27/2006 10:04:12 AM PDT by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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...though he says he never admitted being gay...

Well, it would seem he admitted it to someone.
Someone with a computer, an email account and an axe to grind.

69 posted on 07/27/2006 10:18:00 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I can't complain...but sometimes I still do.)
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Copas says he never admitted being gay

If this is true, then he certainly shouldn't have been dismissed for being gay. However, it seems he has now made a rather public statement that he is gay, so I have to wonder.

89 posted on 07/27/2006 10:35:58 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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