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Our Mother Jesus . . . a sermon by US church's new head
London Times ^ | 6/22/06 | staff

Posted on 06/21/2006 5:08:05 PM PDT by pissant

The Episcopalians are in disarray as their primate shows her feminist credentials

THE Episcopal Church in America descended into chaos last night after leading bishops on both the liberal and conservative wings dissassociated themselves from a last-gasp effort to avert a schism with the worldwide Anglican Communion.

Just hours after its newly elected woman head preached a sermon in praise of “our mother Jesus”, the Episcopal Church agreed to “exercise restraint” in appointing any more gay bishops after a tense day of debate and argument.

The Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, welcomed the resolution with gratitude and what appeared to be relief, but he also made clear his reservations.

He welcomed the “exceptional seriousness” with which the Episcopal Church had treated the calls for it to repent and to impose moratoriums on same-sex blessings and the consecration of any more gay bishops. He said that actions by bishops and laity of the Episcopal Church yesterday showed “how strong is their concern to seek reconciliation and conversation with the rest of the Communion.”

But he continued: “It is not yet clear how far the resolutions passed this week and today represent the adoption by the Episcopal Church of all the proposals set out in the Windsor report. The wider Communion will therefore need to reflect carefully on the significance of what has been decided before we respond more fully.”

But this fragile consensus was immediately shattered by leading bishops on both sides.

Thirty liberal bishops issued a statement of dissent, saying that they could not abide by the new resolution. Bishop John Chane of Washington, a prominent church liberal who officiates at the National Cathedral in American capital, said that he would not agree to block the ordination of any gay bishop. “I will defy the resolution by consenting after prayer and careful consideration to any person duly elected by a diocese in this church,” he said.

On the other side, five conservative bishops accused the General Convention of “misleading the rest of the Communion by giving a false perception that they intend actually to comply with the recommendations of the Windsor Report”. They continued: “We therefore disassociate ourselves from those acts of this Convention that do not fully comply with the Windsor Report.”

They said that they repudiated the actions of the convention and committed themselves to providing pastoral care to worshippers and parishes on the orthodox wing, so placing themselves also in potential breach of Windsor because this would entail crossing diocesan and parochial boundaries.

The resolution was agreed after panicked bishops summoned the rare joint session of the whole Church at its three-yearly convention. The session was held the day after the 800-strong House of Deputies resoundingly rejected the Anglican hierarchy’s demand for a moratorium on the consecration of gay bishops.

Delegates, many wearing pink “It’s a girl” badges in celebration of the Right Rev Katharine Schori’s election as the new presiding bishop, were warned by the current primate of the Episcopal Church, Frank Griswold, that if they did not at least make an attempt to comply with demands for a moratorium on the consecration of any more gay bishops, they would risk exclusion from key bodies of the Anglican Church.

A proposal put forward by Bishop Griswold committing the Church to “exercise restraint by not consenting to the consecration of any candidate for the episcopate whose manner of life presents a challenge to the wider Church and will lead to further strains” sailed through the 300-member House of Bishops on a show of hands and was approved 75-34 by clergy delegations and 72-32 by lay delegations in the House of Deputies.

Earlier, at the morning Eucharist at the convention in Columbus, Ohio, Dr Schori signalled her feminist credentials in a sermon that drew on the writings of the 14th-century Julian of Norwich. She said: “Mother Jesus gives birth to a new creation — and you and I are His children. If we’re going to keep on growing into Christ images for the world around us, we’re going to have to give up fear.”

Liberals in Britain and America defended her sermon as being in a long tradition of writings by women theologians that use the metaphor of Jesus as mother.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
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To: pissant

"Mother Jesus"? I don't think there's anything anywhere which suggests Jesus was a woman. And, let's face it, I'm not sure that a woman would have been considered a credible figure 2000 years ago. Too bad, so sad, but that's the way it was. And while I'm on this rant, what says God has to be either male or famale? It's only our narrow and limited mortal perspective that has to put a sex on everything; God is above all that. Okay; end of rant.


21 posted on 06/21/2006 5:36:37 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: ahadams2; Houston_Texans; impatient; weps4ret; kellynch; Crackhead Willie; meandog; gogeo; ...
Thanks to bd476 for the ping.

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Speak the truth in love. Eph 4:15

22 posted on 06/21/2006 5:36:51 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: pissant
I think people like this are responsible for alot of new Roman Catholic converts.

Yes. And Orthodox, and Protestant, and the Continuing Anglican churches too.

23 posted on 06/21/2006 5:39:42 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: hsalaw

I'd say God is masculine, since Jesus was male, and since he called God "Father".

But I think Gaia and Aphrodite are female, though fictitious.


24 posted on 06/21/2006 5:41:54 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

HELL IS A VERY HOT PLACE.


25 posted on 06/21/2006 5:42:48 PM PDT by gedeon3
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To: pissant

Dittos that. And "Mother Jesus"?? Give me a break... Why someone doesn't stand up during a sermon or mass and condemn this is beyond me. I don't think I could keep my mouth shut.


26 posted on 06/21/2006 5:42:59 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS))
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To: sionnsar

What do traditional Anglicans think of Rowan?


27 posted on 06/21/2006 5:43:09 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Did not St. Paul say women were to be silent in church? At least a man should have one day of the week to escape seemingly endless chatter.


28 posted on 06/21/2006 5:43:21 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: gedeon3

With lots of virginless jihadis as of late.


29 posted on 06/21/2006 5:43:45 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

She's a bishop being cute. Bishopess? Bishopette? God save us.


30 posted on 06/21/2006 5:44:42 PM PDT by livius
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To: hsalaw

LAST TIME I CHECKED, FATHER DOES NOT MEAN A WOMAN NOR A NEUTRAL BEING.


31 posted on 06/21/2006 5:45:35 PM PDT by gedeon3
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To: pissant

At this point, it appears it will take a stake through the heart.


32 posted on 06/21/2006 5:47:10 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Famous last words: "what does Ibtz mean?")
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To: pissant

It's official, they're irrelevant.


33 posted on 06/21/2006 5:48:22 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: pissant
What do traditional Anglicans think of Rowan?

Not much. One of the kinder terms was used by founder of the Traditional Anglican ping list -- he called him "Rowan the Fuzzy." My bishop was not so kind.

34 posted on 06/21/2006 5:48:23 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: Ladysmith

I had a Catholic Priest who changed the words in the Nicene Creed "for us men and our slavation..." by dropping the word "men". I let him know it was not appreciated and he really wasn't interested. Told him adios.

Find out a couple years later he was having a homo fling and got booted out recently.


35 posted on 06/21/2006 5:51:55 PM PDT by pissant
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

LOL.


36 posted on 06/21/2006 5:52:41 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Tiptoe through the tulips.. Weird isn't the word for it.. these people are plain nuts.


37 posted on 06/21/2006 5:53:56 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Were they to "The Producers or "Light in the Piazza"?


38 posted on 06/21/2006 5:55:32 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: pissant

Who's he?

39 posted on 06/21/2006 5:55:36 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: livius

That gal can't be cute...ever.


40 posted on 06/21/2006 5:55:49 PM PDT by pissant
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