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Our Mother Jesus . . . a sermon by US church's new head
London Times ^ | 6/22/06 | staff

Posted on 06/21/2006 5:08:05 PM PDT by pissant

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To: thoughtomator

I think so. I would like to see the traditional types move forward and break ranks. The traditional churches will thrive, the others will wither.


41 posted on 06/21/2006 5:57:54 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
She looks bizarre.
She looks like a man.....man!
42 posted on 06/21/2006 5:58:02 PM PDT by The Lumster (USA - where the innocent have nothing to fear!)
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To: SuziQ

And they were one of the original 3 protestant churches. A shame. I think the Lutherans are hanging in there. Not sure about the Calvinists though.


43 posted on 06/21/2006 5:59:03 PM PDT by pissant
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To: sionnsar

If its bad here in the US, it has to be worse in the UK.


44 posted on 06/21/2006 5:59:35 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
Nooo!! Go figure!

Good for you! Frankly, I sometimes get depressed about not having found a church since becoming a Christian, but it seems to be getting to the point that there isn't one that's trustworthy, regardless of denomination.

45 posted on 06/21/2006 6:00:22 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS))
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To: LowOiL

Maybe she thinks there are millions of lesbians that were looking for a church to call home.


46 posted on 06/21/2006 6:00:37 PM PDT by pissant
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To: KoRn

Ouch!


47 posted on 06/21/2006 6:01:18 PM PDT by pissant
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To: The Lumster

We'll have to send in Austin Power or Crocodile Dundee to find out.


48 posted on 06/21/2006 6:01:55 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Meadow Muffin
Here we can witness the collapse of a denomination due to their feminazization and gaynazization of their creed.

Gaynazization? Good one! Methinks y'all have coined a phrase.

49 posted on 06/21/2006 6:03:02 PM PDT by stillonaroll
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To: pissant

Most parishes use that form; "for us, and for our salvation". It was part of the PC changes a few years ago, which, I hope will be going the way of the geese with the new Liturgical Norms approved by Pope Benedict. I've continued to say "for us MEN and for our salvation", the whole time, as do many around me, during Mass. I've never thought that anything that says "men" during Mass excludes me, and anyone who does is just WAY too sensitive about it.


50 posted on 06/21/2006 6:03:49 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Ladysmith

The Roman Catholic Church is generally fantastic. I love it. The Pope is a good leader. The American bishops are in their last throes of liberalism (on some issues anyway) and the church has been moving rightward in the last 20 years. In my hometown, there are about 7 parishes. 5 of the 7 are led by very good priests, IMO.

And the mass is beautiful and traditional, as long as you avoid the ones with guys playing guitars and caterwauling. LOL


51 posted on 06/21/2006 6:05:52 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Jorge

They're not atheists ... atheists have consciences. These people are servants of the most low.


52 posted on 06/21/2006 6:05:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: pissant
If its bad here in the US, it has to be worse in the UK.

Actually, from all I've read it's at its worst here in the US. They're still arguing over whether to have women bishops, whereas the first woman bishop in the US was ca 1990 as I recall (and had no pastoral experience, was heavily underqualified -- but she was female and black). They've also been providing alternative oversight for priests who will not tolerate their liberal bishops -- "flying bishops," they're called there.

The one thing possibly worse there is the low attendance. And one bad thing they have that we don't is the state-church tie, which is being used to force more liberalism down their throats.

But all in all, it is the Episcopal church in the U.S. that's driving this madness.

53 posted on 06/21/2006 6:06:38 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: SuziQ

Not in my town. Only the one dingbat priest has used it, that I've heard. And in the last few years I've gone to mass in Laramie WY, Nebraska, Topeka KS, KC MO, LA, Tucson, and few others. I'm happy to report no dropping of "men". :o)


54 posted on 06/21/2006 6:09:45 PM PDT by pissant
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To: sionnsar

Yikes. It may get worse before it gets better.


55 posted on 06/21/2006 6:10:52 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
And even the Methodist, of all people, have become sickly liberal bastions in many parts of the country.

This part, for example.

56 posted on 06/21/2006 6:13:10 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema

LOL. Yep. Anytime you hear the words "social justice", you be sure the group is a nest of moonbats.


57 posted on 06/21/2006 6:16:19 PM PDT by pissant
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And the mass is beautiful and traditional, as long as you avoid the ones with guys playing guitars and caterwauling. LOL

Anthony Esolen seems inclined to agree.

58 posted on 06/21/2006 6:16:31 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

"... a man should have one day of the week to escape seemingly endless chatter."

My wife keeps asking me why I'm looking at my laptop and snickering.


59 posted on 06/21/2006 6:20:17 PM PDT by Borian (Don't mess with Texas...)
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To: rhema

Yep. Fortunately, they have not rewritten the traditional hymns in in the songbooks we get. But they sure included alot of lousy newer songs that I tune out. Awful dirges.


60 posted on 06/21/2006 6:20:32 PM PDT by pissant
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