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Exclusive: A Rising Star Offers His Own Immigration Plan (Leading House Conservative Mike Pence)
Time ^ | 05/23/2006 | By MIKE ALLEN

Posted on 05/23/2006 8:34:41 AM PDT by notes2005

With the Senate headed toward a final vote on an immigration bill this week, a leader of House conservatives is asking his colleagues to support a free-market plan aimed at bridging the gulf between the versions in the two chambers. The proposal by Rep.Mike Pence (R-Ind.), provided to TIME ahead of an unveiling speech at the Heritage Foundation, is arguably less compassionate than the version being debated in the Senate and supported in principle by President George W. Bush.But it looks to be more palatable to House Republicans, many of whom have opposed creating a guest worker program before new border crackdowns have been given a chance to work.

Pence, a rising star in the House, is suggesting a temporary worker program based on a data base run by private industry. And unlike the leading plan in the Senate and the blueprint sketched by Bush, his “Border Integrity and Immigration Reform Act” would require all applicants to leave the country first.Pence tweaks a phrase from Bush’s address to the nation by calling the compromise “a REAL rational middle ground.” Even though Bush has said his preferred solution “ain’t amnesty,” Pence appeals to hard-liners by calling the compromise a “no-amnesty solution.”

“The solution is to set up a system that will encourage illegal aliens to self-deport and come back legally as guest workers,” Pence, the grandson of an Irish immigrant, says in prepared remarks. “The visa will be issued only outside of the United States.Outside of the United States. That is a key point because it is the provision that will require the twelve million illegal aliens to leave. Now, some of you are thinking to yourselves that 12 million people aren’t going to pack up and leave just to get a visa to come back legally. But,I believe most will.”

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To: sinkspur

LOL


101 posted on 05/23/2006 8:52:26 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: streetpreacher
That's only because turncoats like you allow it to happen. It is not inevitable. We only lack the will, not the means, to secure the borders and turn back the invaders.

It won't matter. You could send back all the illegals, and the Hispanics would still, eventually, outnumber whites. Whites are simply not reproducing, or even marrying, at previous numbers.

102 posted on 05/23/2006 8:53:08 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: dirtboy
Sorry, but the only contemptable dishonesty I have seen on this thread has been from you.

fyi, I was not the first poster to use the words "contemptable dishonesty". Actually, when I used it, it was 100% cut and paste.

103 posted on 05/23/2006 9:00:59 PM PDT by staytrue (Moonbat conservatives-those who would rather have the democrats win.)
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To: sinkspur

Gee. And that matters why? China and India outnumber us signicantly as well. That just means that there are more starving and/or poor people over there than over here. They can outnumber us all they want to... in Mexico. That's not going to spell dominance.


104 posted on 05/23/2006 9:01:32 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: staytrue

Moonbat Americans-those who would rather sacrifice our nation than risk alienating a "voter-bloc".


105 posted on 05/23/2006 9:03:28 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Plutarch
But what do you think of the plan?

I have no idea. I believe the collective wisdom of the republicans in congress, senate and executive branch outweigh my own. I will support whatever they come up with.

106 posted on 05/23/2006 9:05:06 PM PDT by staytrue (Moonbat conservatives-those who would rather have the democrats win.)
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To: TexasKamaAina
It doesn't seem to address the question of how many immigrants we should let in. The problems the illegals bring isn't so much related to their legal status but to their volume.

Common sense reasoning will get you branded a rino. But I like your post. I agree, the question of how many (my guess is a lot less than now like maybe 4 million would do.) is the big issue.

107 posted on 05/23/2006 9:09:49 PM PDT by staytrue (Moonbat conservatives-those who would rather have the democrats win.)
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To: sinkspur
There's a name for those who are always worried about skin color.

Spit it out. You believe that the white nations on earth are racist if they want to maintain a white majority.

Would it be racist of India if they want to maintain an Indian majority? How about South Africa maintaining a black majority?

108 posted on 05/23/2006 9:11:51 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: LK44-40; Jim_Curtis; sinkspur; streetpreacher

The big thing is not so much race, but culture. If we can "convert" the Mexicans, or the Chinese, or the Indians to our European-American culture and way of thinking, the US will continue to be the most stable, successful, prosperous, humane, and free civilization in the world. The melting pot is intended to break down the barriers that defined our ancestors overseas, such as religion, race, and nationality, and create a united "American thought".


109 posted on 05/23/2006 9:13:18 PM PDT by MassachusettsGOP (Massachusetts Republican....A rare breed indeed)
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To: sinkspur
You may as well face the fact that this country will, eventually, be largely Hispanic.

Feel proud that you are doing your part to hurry along this happy state of affairs. [/sarcasm]

(btw, I expect that there will be some serious blood spilled before the last Euro-whites accommodate themselves to your vision.)

110 posted on 05/23/2006 9:18:11 PM PDT by LK44-40
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To: Jim_Curtis
You believe that the white nations on earth are racist if they want to maintain a white majority.

No. I believe that certain posters on FR are racist when they argue that a white majority is the most important thing on earth.

Would it be racist of India if they want to maintain an Indian majority? How about South Africa maintaining a black majority?

I don't see why this is important. Nobody cares when Protestants outnumber Catholics, or vice versa, but when skin color comes into play, that's a big deal to you.

111 posted on 05/23/2006 9:19:07 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: MassachusettsGOP

What, exactly, is "American thought" and European-American culture? Please be specific.


112 posted on 05/23/2006 9:20:44 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: LK44-40
(btw, I expect that there will be some serious blood spilled before the last Euro-whites accommodate themselves to your vision.)

I don't have a "vision." And, if there is blood spilled, it will be by hot dog militia types who are itching for a fight with somebody, anybody.

113 posted on 05/23/2006 9:22:09 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: notes2005
This plan is.
114 posted on 05/23/2006 9:22:36 PM PDT by heights
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To: heights

Well at least its tasty.


115 posted on 05/23/2006 9:29:53 PM PDT by MassachusettsGOP (Massachusetts Republican....A rare breed indeed)
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To: MassachusettsGOP

Which predominantly white countries do you believe should replace their white majorities with melting pot experiments? All of them or just the US?


116 posted on 05/23/2006 9:30:12 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: Jim_Curtis
Which predominantly white countries do you believe should replace their white majorities with melting pot experiments? All of them or just the US?

"White" seems to be your color. Do you have confederate flags on your truck?

117 posted on 05/23/2006 9:32:30 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: notes2005

118 posted on 05/23/2006 9:40:37 PM PDT by heights
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To: sinkspur
-Belief in Democracy
-Belief in the "Protestant Work Ethic", though not exclusive to Protestants, essentially the devotion to work
-Desire to improve one's standing in life
-Individual Rights, though many here on FR think many Americans on the Left don't believe in Individual rights, most American liberals believe in a perverted form of this
-Respect for the rule of law
-Government's intent is to serve and protect the people
-Devotion to one wife and family
-Tolerance, without surrendering your livelihood
And Im sure Im forgetting a bunch

And of course remember, the reason why are country is looking sour as is it without considering the Illegal immigration issue is that many people in the West are forgetting why we value these things, we are forgetting our history, and the mistakes we already made that taught us these lessons

The 60's continue to kill us
119 posted on 05/23/2006 9:40:58 PM PDT by MassachusettsGOP (May the West (and real Republicans) Always Win...)
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To: sinkspur
Do you have confederate flags on your truck?

Do you have the Mexican flag on your import?

120 posted on 05/23/2006 9:41:10 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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