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Exclusive: A Rising Star Offers His Own Immigration Plan (Leading House Conservative Mike Pence)
Time ^ | 05/23/2006 | By MIKE ALLEN

Posted on 05/23/2006 8:34:41 AM PDT by notes2005

With the Senate headed toward a final vote on an immigration bill this week, a leader of House conservatives is asking his colleagues to support a free-market plan aimed at bridging the gulf between the versions in the two chambers. The proposal by Rep.Mike Pence (R-Ind.), provided to TIME ahead of an unveiling speech at the Heritage Foundation, is arguably less compassionate than the version being debated in the Senate and supported in principle by President George W. Bush.But it looks to be more palatable to House Republicans, many of whom have opposed creating a guest worker program before new border crackdowns have been given a chance to work.

Pence, a rising star in the House, is suggesting a temporary worker program based on a data base run by private industry. And unlike the leading plan in the Senate and the blueprint sketched by Bush, his “Border Integrity and Immigration Reform Act” would require all applicants to leave the country first.Pence tweaks a phrase from Bush’s address to the nation by calling the compromise “a REAL rational middle ground.” Even though Bush has said his preferred solution “ain’t amnesty,” Pence appeals to hard-liners by calling the compromise a “no-amnesty solution.”

“The solution is to set up a system that will encourage illegal aliens to self-deport and come back legally as guest workers,” Pence, the grandson of an Irish immigrant, says in prepared remarks. “The visa will be issued only outside of the United States.Outside of the United States. That is a key point because it is the provision that will require the twelve million illegal aliens to leave. Now, some of you are thinking to yourselves that 12 million people aren’t going to pack up and leave just to get a visa to come back legally. But,I believe most will.”

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
I have no problems with demographic changes.

Don't you believe that a euro-white majority in the US should be preserved?

Whether it is 'them' the policitians or 'them' the illegals, I don't give a whit about their political problems.

Their political problems become everyone's problems. We are discovering that at present.

81 posted on 05/23/2006 3:40:13 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: staytrue
“The visa will be issued only outside of the United States.Outside of the United States.

Not really. The "guests" would have to go back to Mexico to get their visa. Otherwise be deported.

82 posted on 05/23/2006 3:56:40 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Jim_Curtis
Don't you believe that a euro-white majority in the US should be preserved?

No, I believe the non-white, latino majority of Mexico should be preserved. ;)

Their political problems become everyone's problems. We are discovering that at present.

Brother, ain't that the truth.

83 posted on 05/23/2006 4:11:58 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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To: notes2005

It doesn't seem to address the question of how many immigrants we should let in. The problems the illegals bring isn't so much related to their legal status but to their volume. Also the skills (or lack of) that they bring with them. Twelve million plus immigrants from essentially one country, mostly undereducated, and resistant to speaking English will create severe cultural and economic consequences for native-born Americans whether they arrived legaly or illegally.


84 posted on 05/23/2006 5:48:14 PM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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To: Liz

If we can micro chip our dogs and cats, why can't we micro chip illegals?????


85 posted on 05/23/2006 8:07:28 PM PDT by Postman
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To: Jim_Curtis
Don't you believe that a euro-white majority in the US should be preserved?

Wow. Why is this important?

86 posted on 05/23/2006 8:16:28 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: Liz

With tis list of lawlessnes and flagrant violations of the law those who are responsible for failure to enforce the law are committing deriliction of duty. Sadly, these days they are Republicans, all the way to the top. Today, we have 280,000,000 people in this ccountry. With these liberalized laws proplsed it is said by Congressman Rohrbacher of California, that we will import another 150,000,000 tp 200,000,000 in the next 20 years. This country cannot absorb that number of people. We will liberalize these laws at our peril. Very discouraging. It would be better to try to develope Mexico rather than jam these people up here in the USA.


87 posted on 05/23/2006 8:19:48 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: staytrue

The way you and sinkspur stalk these threads would seem to make you the "single-issue" voters...

Apparently, your only issue is being against something conservative. I'd bet a good look at your posting history would reveal a problem with "multiple" issues that fall under the conservative banner.


88 posted on 05/23/2006 8:21:39 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: notes2005

Come back and tell me about it AFTER the borders have been sealed.


89 posted on 05/23/2006 8:24:34 PM PDT by LK44-40
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To: notes2005
“The solution is to set up a system that will encourage illegal aliens to self-deport
and come back legally as guest workers


Self-deport from the place where they are earning pay and getting
plenty of freebies?
With no guarantee of being re-admitted (in the remote case we
do finally control the border)?

Besides, many of them are already in Atzlan. The impudence of
the gringos to think they should make these folks leave THEIR country!

Pence may have good motives.
But his plan sounds screwy.
90 posted on 05/23/2006 8:26:58 PM PDT by VOA
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To: sinkspur
Don't you believe that a euro-white majority in the US should be preserved?

Wow. Why is this important?

For the same reason it would be important to Australians and European nations.

Do you believe all predominantly white nations should allow themselves to become white minority nations, or just the US?

91 posted on 05/23/2006 8:28:06 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: Liz
So, let’s review. Under the Senate’s amnesty plan:

A.) US citizen committing forgery and tax fraud = 25 years in jail.
B.) Illegal alien committing forgery and tax fraud = US citizenship, no jail time, keep the benefits (Social Security) of the forgery and fraud

And yet, according to El Presidente, we’re a “nation of laws,” and he opposes “amnesty.”

Brilliant summary!

92 posted on 05/23/2006 8:28:55 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: sinkspur
Wow. Why is this important?

Because the most stable, successful, prosperous, humane, and free civilization in the history of the world was created by these euro-white people.

You wanna bash'em...go for it.

93 posted on 05/23/2006 8:31:24 PM PDT by LK44-40
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To: streetpreacher
There you go again. If you mention me in a post, please ping me, so I can defend myself.

It's called common courtesy, and you can't seem to summon it up.

94 posted on 05/23/2006 8:41:26 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: Jim_Curtis
Do you believe all predominantly white nations should allow themselves to become white minority nations, or just the US?

Skin color doesn't matter to me.

There's a name for those who are always worried about skin color.

95 posted on 05/23/2006 8:42:35 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: sinkspur

Why? I knew you would find this thread...

Just wanted you to prove my point.

LOL


96 posted on 05/23/2006 8:46:58 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: LK44-40
Because the most stable, successful, prosperous, humane, and free civilization in the history of the world was created by these euro-white people.

Yes. And when it was established, those euro-whites held blacks in enslavement. So, it was "free" for everybody but those blacks.

You may as well face the fact that this country will, eventually, be largely Hispanic. You and I may be dead by then, but it is inevitable, unless white families start reproducing at about double the current rate.

97 posted on 05/23/2006 8:48:48 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: sinkspur

You see? I didn't even realize you had already posted on this thread. It was a given.


98 posted on 05/23/2006 8:48:55 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: streetpreacher

Ping me when you mention me, buster.


99 posted on 05/23/2006 8:50:00 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: sinkspur

That's only because turncoats like you allow it to happen. It is not inevitable. We only lack the will, not the means, to secure the borders and turn back the invaders.


100 posted on 05/23/2006 8:50:43 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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