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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: NinoFan
Look, this illegal immiration issue is VITAL to the future of this country. It's not like other issues. It's as important as the WOT.

A lot of us don't think the President is making the right decision on the immigration issue. We think our country is headed in a very, very bad direction if our President's plan goes through.
Saying "grow up" is a childish response to a legitimate concern.

Amen! If we don't seal the borders, we won't have a country that we can call the USA!

There is no more important leagacy that I can pass on to my grandchildren.

701 posted on 05/17/2006 10:32:14 AM PDT by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist, cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: Spiff
"What posting guidelines did TexAggie violate? "

Post #678 should clue you in.

702 posted on 05/17/2006 10:32:17 AM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
Nobody has been banned. Actually, all they received was a polite warning to knock it off. Please get your facts straight before accusing next time. Thank you.

It does seem more reasonable to give a poster a "warning" before they are "banned." Although I've seen bannings happen without a warning.

I've had news threads which, even when I designate as Extended News, are removed from any sidebar category, yet a vanity rant is "Breaking News."

I am not following the logic here. And I am still wondering why a poster who made a death threat on forum was not banned.

703 posted on 05/17/2006 10:32:19 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: Mo1


YES! He's going to the tree farm! GOOD idea. The city sawed down one of our 120 year old trees last week.


704 posted on 05/17/2006 10:32:27 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: gondramB
Would you really want moderators who don't have opinions about politics?

Not when they're on duty. I wasn't aware that part of their job description as moderators was informing FReepers where their opinions lay.

If they can tell us their opinions, why can't we know their names?

705 posted on 05/17/2006 10:32:30 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: Pukin Dog

BTTT

Well said PD.


706 posted on 05/17/2006 10:32:31 AM PDT by AliVeritas (The beatings will continue until morale improves.)
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To: GarySpFc

Hi Gary

I suggest you keep on writing the White House about your case. We never hear of cases like this, so those involved must bring forth this treatment.

Good luck.


707 posted on 05/17/2006 10:32:52 AM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Thank you so much for this post. I haven't been frequenting freeperville too often lately due to the insanity that has been running rampant of late.

Hopefully others will heed your post.


708 posted on 05/17/2006 10:33:08 AM PDT by publana (yes, I checked the preview box without previewing)
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To: Vicomte13

It's a long way 'til November, and by August we may see riots in LA along the lines of Watts or torched cars a la France. One hopes not, but it could be a long, hot summer, and people are frustrated and angry. I'm speaking of illegals, who've bought their leaders' arguments that they're entitled to instant citizenship as a human right. If the worst happens, a wall would go up rather quickly. This would reverse Bush's low poll numbers overnight.


710 posted on 05/17/2006 10:33:14 AM PDT by hershey
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To: gondramB

And I want to say this too. If the democrats get in power, they will pull out of Iraq.

What does that say to our enemies?

What does it say to our military men and women and their families who have died and lost limbs?

These beautiful young people who have sacrificed EVERYTHING for the United States, will be told by the one party issue people that THEIR issue is more important than their sacrifices.


711 posted on 05/17/2006 10:33:35 AM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: Spiff

Thanks, Spiff.


713 posted on 05/17/2006 10:33:58 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: colorado tanker
I'll try to explain this real slow.If you go slow, it's because you are slow witted.

The history I cited was and is correct. You want to add a whole bunch of other stuff so you can make excuses for politicians, by all means have at it. It means nothing to anyone but you.

Despite all the nonsense you pretend I said, but I never did, two Republican Presidents nominated and supported two liberal judges. They were either stupid, or didn't have the guts to look the liberals in the eyes and escalate the battle. A lot of apologists claim the SCOTUS seats are the most important thing a conservative President can do, yet it isn't important enough to fight to the bitter end.

Alternately, the Republicans aren't very conservative. Like the current guy. He is what he is, but he never claimed to be conservative. A good thing since he is not.

BTW, the jury is still out on the two he just put in. (pun intended) Not to mention the one HE ACTUALLY wanted, who was certainly not conservative.

The fact is, electing Republicans doesn't necessarily lead to conservative judges.

I hope that was slow enough for you.

714 posted on 05/17/2006 10:34:12 AM PDT by Protagoras ("Sometimes the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious".... George Orwell)
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To: Pukin Dog
Can I use that as my tag line?

What?

Your essay.

715 posted on 05/17/2006 10:34:47 AM PDT by Flyer (Tag line FINALLY approved by humblegunner)
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To: Peach

And they want to post nasty comments that they can then quote in other mediums as proof of the hatefulness of FR members. I totally agree with the system of moderators keeping the threads from becoming IEDs to the site.


716 posted on 05/17/2006 10:35:15 AM PDT by maica ( We have a destination in mind, and that is a freer world. -- G W Bush)
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To: Pukin Dog

The only really disappoiting thing to me is when Right-wingers adopt the language of the left to attack fellow Righties.


717 posted on 05/17/2006 10:35:42 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Lead Moderator
Interesting. Some see name calling, key word abuse as "objectionable."

Oh, is that all it takes? I could show you dozens of threads I've posted or participated in where those how make a career out of attacking immigration reform/border security advocates have done exactly that. I didn't see any of them get banned.

718 posted on 05/17/2006 10:35:56 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Flyer
The whole thing? Sure, but it might not all fit on that little line.....LOL.
719 posted on 05/17/2006 10:36:28 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
It's not about opinion, it's about vitriol. And if you can't tell the difference then that's a shame.

While there are many who disagree I have yet to see a sensible alternative or even suggestion as to how to clean up a mess that has gotten out of hand.

The biggest problem is the amazing economy here in the states. If there were no jobs there would be no one sneaking in.

That said, we need to get control of the borders.

There are solutions that would be a start such as cutting off any aid to cities that declare their city a safe zone for illegals. Imagine the outcry!!

There are other solutions but bashing the President, the republicans, etc. is nothing more than spleen venting that ought to be done elsewhere.

720 posted on 05/17/2006 10:36:36 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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