"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

[Pukin Dog]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.

[George W. Bush]

Bush's signature on a bill is functionally the same as assenting to the provisions in it.

You'd have to read his signing statement as well to find out whether he'll enforce it, considers it constitutional, etc.

[bray]

That bill is miles away from what comes out of Congress. It has to get redone in Committee or don't you know how bills work. Oh that's right you would rather have the emotion of the Senate bill just got signed into law. What a maroon.

Pray for W and Our Troops

[bray]

Nice little whinebaby, you are the one calling him "ears" and "little bush" which are so similar to chimp and shrub that you have to wonder where you really hang out. Then you come on with this little song and dance? Pathetic!

Pray for W and Our Troops

[sam_paine]

You don't have to lead or compromise when your out of power.

Even a high school drum major knows it's a damn sight harder to lead a parade than to follow and bitch about the marching.

I keep going back to "The Conservative Rout" by Russell Kirk (Later renamed "Conservative Mind."

Kirk claims that conservatism will always lose because progressivism -is- activism and the very nature of a true conservative will tend to eat his own, and/or be steam-rolled by the activist/progressivists.

It's a dull historical read, but really nails the mechanics of the political times we're living.

Meanwhile, we're getting pilloried on this thread by the likes of the WoW folks who claim that -WE'RE- the mindless fools!

FReegards!

[dirtboy]

That bill is miles away from what comes out of Congress. It has to get redone in Committee or don't you know how bills work. Oh that's right you would rather have the emotion of the Senate bill just got signed into law. What a maroon.

Once again, do you see Bush saying he will veto any bill with amnesty provisions?

You don't. If Bush had said that, the Senate Bill would look very different today.

[Washi]

I will thank you to not mischaracterize my statements. Unless you know every post I made with respect to Miers, you had best relax.

I don't believe I was mischaracterizing anything.

Your previous vanity thread is here:

Miers Vanity

Some of your quotes from that thread are here:

"I decided to end my self-imposed exile from posting due to information that I received this past weekend from ‘a little birdie’ in Washington, which I subsequently had confirmed by another ‘insider’ if you can call him that.

Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen. Had they been strong, Bush could have selected anyone we wanted.

True, you never called anyone ignorant. That's the impression I took from your assertion that we voters were to blame for Bush's lousy pick.

And, I am relaxed.

[dirtboy]

Not when I consider the Lynch Mob howling at the GOP.

So, in other words, you are acting just like the Dems did during Clinton's impeachment - you are so busy counterattacking that you cannot be bothered to stop and think about whether Bush's stance on this is wrong.

[William Terrell]

Sure you do. If you acknowledge that the president would sign the bill as is, you have to defend the fact he's sided once more with liberal democrats.

President's getting harder and harder to justify an oath of fealty, isn't he? My sympathies.

[dirtboy]

You'd have to read his signing statement as well to find out whether he'll enforce it, considers it constitutional, etc.

True enough. However, if he had come out and said any bill with an amnesty would be vetoed, I doubt we would see amnesty in the Senate bill.

[wardaddy]

You're not worth the ping.

South Basher and Open Border troll one in the same.

[wardaddy]

I called Perot "ears"?

Are you on drugs?

[Xenalyte]

The best self-zot EVER is in post 915.

[wardaddy]

Don't either of you play dumb. I said you kept bad company here. Company that is gleeful over things that aggravate me presonally. I did make the claim that either of YOU said something in particular.

I stand by that. You wish to draw conclusions beyond that thenyou are both just surmising.

No one said either of you danced on Matt's banning but you high five with fellow FReepers who do....a month later even....some of them just can't resist the impulse.

Talk of lists to be banned, and personal banning warnings on open thread like they think they run the damned place.

It's all silly is quite right.

But this issue is anything but silly.

[wardaddy]

You most certainly did ping me first on this thread. I never challenge you for the heck of it ...believe me.

To: wardaddy
Trust me, LIEberman is not "decent" in any way, shape, manner, or form, with the one exception of his sort of support of the WOT.

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[Vicomte13]

"Raise you a Durbin and an Obama, and call... Never mind, we've packed our bags for Ohio."

Where you'll have a DeWine and a Voinovich! LOL!

[Vicomte13]

"Only after sufficient land grants. I don't come cheap."

Neither do the "rabble".

[Grampa Dave]

"They told us he was "annointed" remember?"

Thanks I had forgot about that mantra, "annointed" used by the insane one at DU, Koz and of course the Walk on Water Uber Conservatives on FR.

[yarddog]

I was perusing this thread and noticed Travis McGee has been banned. That is quite a shock to me.

I always thought of him as one of the very best posters on FR and also one of the most illustrious.

Not certain I want to stay on a site which would ban him.

[wardaddy]

well...folks could at least resist celebrating it?

[yarddog]

There is a certain group, I am sure I don't know who all of them are, but most I do, who instantly show up on any immigration thread and start attacking the more conservative posters, then as they pile on they begin yucking it up among themselves. They also constantly congratulate each other on their brilliance, clever posting, etc.

From reading the first and last pages of this particular one, they clearly know they are the ones in power here and know they can insult, attack, etc. with impunity.

I have been on FR for many years but I think this may be my last post, I am literally fed up with it.