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Neanderthals And Humans: Perhaps They Never Met
Live Science ^ | 5-8-2006 | Robin Lloyd

Posted on 05/08/2006 11:29:20 AM PDT by blam

Neanderthals and Humans: Perhaps They Never Met

By Robin Lloyd
Special to LiveScience
posted: 08 May 2006

The number of years that modern humans are thought to have overlapped with Neanderthals in Europe is shrinking fast, and some scientists now say that figure could drop to zero.

Neanderthals lived in Europe and western Asia from 230,000 to 29,000 years ago, petering out soon after the arrival of modern humans from Africa.

There is much debate on exactly how Neanderthals went extinct. Theories include climate change and inferior tools compared to those made by modern humans. Anthropologists also disagree on whether modern humans and Neanderthals are the same species and interbred.

And now, some scientists dispute whether they lived side-by-side at all in Europe.

Timeline of Human Evolution

The timeline of human evolution is long and controversial, with significant gaps. Experts do not agree on many of the start and end points of various species. So this chart involves significant estimates.

Zero overlap?

The overlap figure shrank in February with new research by Paul Mellars of Cambridge University based on improved carbon-14 dating to show that modern humans started encroaching from Israel upon Neanderthal territory in the Balkans 3,000 years sooner than previously thought. This rate suggests Neanderthals succumbed sooner to big climate shifts or competition from modern humans for resources and that they might have overlapped for only 1,000 years at sites in western France.

Try zero years, says anthropologist John Hawks of the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

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To: blam
Bull! How does that explain Terayza Heinz Kerry?
21 posted on 05/08/2006 11:49:06 AM PDT by Solamente (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out...)
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To: Yo-Yo

They're sensitive souls, too. They're easily offended.


22 posted on 05/08/2006 11:53:16 AM PDT by shekkian
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To: blam

Of course they're still here, in the NFL.............


23 posted on 05/08/2006 11:55:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (In warfare there are no constant conditions. --- The Art of War by SunTzu)
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To: blam

Shouldn't the graph for H. erectus be going up instead of sideways?.......


24 posted on 05/08/2006 11:57:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (In warfare there are no constant conditions. --- The Art of War by SunTzu)
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To: blam

25 posted on 05/08/2006 11:58:25 AM PDT by Fighting Irish
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To: EveningStar


democrats


26 posted on 05/08/2006 11:58:42 AM PDT by onyx (They're ILLEGAL! --- tough, FACTS DON'T MATTER.)
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27 posted on 05/08/2006 11:59:57 AM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Tzimisce
Neanderthals still exist. Many of them vote Democrat every single election cycle.

Are you kidding? Many of them inhabit FreeRepublic.

28 posted on 05/08/2006 12:03:17 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Wolfstar


ROTFLMAO!

You're right!


29 posted on 05/08/2006 12:04:37 PM PDT by onyx (They're ILLEGAL! --- tough, FACTS DON'T MATTER.)
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To: blam
Neanderthals and Humans: Perhaps They Never Met

Well I've seen and run across a few muslims, but I've never actually met one, so...

30 posted on 05/08/2006 12:08:07 PM PDT by TeddyCon
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To: gop4lyf

gop41yf -- "Yes, they all turned into Muslims"


---- That seems to be what the article says too ("modern humans started encroaching from Israel upon Neanderthal territory in the Balkans 3,000 years sooner than previously thought.")


31 posted on 05/08/2006 1:26:08 PM PDT by Casekirchen (Return New Orleans to the wetlands from whence it came)
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To: onyx
You're right!

;-)

32 posted on 05/08/2006 2:26:35 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
yes, I'm going for the record... ;')
33 posted on 05/08/2006 10:10:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Thanks Blam.

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34 posted on 05/08/2006 10:11:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Solamente

Liquor.. and lots of it!


35 posted on 05/09/2006 2:12:12 PM PDT by Trillian
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