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Italy owes wine legacy to Celts, history buffs say
Reuters via Wash. Post ^ | April 21, 2006 | Svetlana Kovalyova

Posted on 04/22/2006 7:56:23 PM PDT by Pharmboy

ROBBIO, Italy (Reuters) - Wine conjures up the image of cultured drinkers sipping their way delicately through a full-bodied vintage.

But for two history buffs with a passion for the tipple, northern Italy has the barbarians to thank for its long wine-making tradition.

Luca Sormani, from Como, and Fulvio Pescarolo, from the tiny town of Robbio near Milan, have traced the region's wine culture all the way back to its Celtic roots and have started making it according to ancient methods.

Celtic tribes from farther north -- known to the Romans as "Barbari" -- conquered northern parts of Italy about 2,500 years ago, settled there and started draining marshes, cultivating land and growing vines.

"There is a bit of the barbarian in us," said Pescarolo, 51, who is the ninth generation of farmers from the rice-growing western part of Lombardy. "We feel we are part of this nature."

Interest in all things Celtic -- from music to mystical rites -- took off in northern Italy in the mid 1990s, fanned by the Northern League party which rose to prominence with demands for independence for the north.

Sormani and Pescarolo said their interest in Celtic culture had nothing to with politics and that, instead of the symbols and rites, they studied what was close to their hearts -- a blend of agriculture and wine-growing.

NO HELMETS WITH HORNS

"It's not that we want to put on helmets with horns. It's not about mythology or cults," said Sormani, 40, who has a doctorate in agriculture.

"We feel we are part of a tradition which dates back to the times of Celts."

Standing in a vineyard on a man-made hill in the middle of table-flat rice fields in western Lombardy, Sormani recalled how he spent years studying the history of the

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agriculture; celts; godsgravesglyphs; grapes; italy; oenology; vino; wine; winemaking; zymurgy
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To: DJ Taylor

True, however if the Lord hadn't invented whiskey the Irish would rule the earth.

And before any PC voices chime in my Grandfather only spoke Gaelic, and he was a strapping man who finally died at 92.

I remember visitng him in Lincolnshire when I was very young. "love ya boy" is all I ever caught.


21 posted on 04/22/2006 8:40:29 PM PDT by JNL
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To: Oztrich Boy

Great map and link--thanks. I have always been a "Celtic fan" but my interest increased when I did a Y-chromosome analysis and it could not be more solidly Celtic! The type is R1b/M343...


22 posted on 04/22/2006 8:40:58 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: blam

Ya beat me to it ;o) Good post. Great book.


23 posted on 04/22/2006 8:42:36 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Pharmboy
Celtic Found To Have Ancient Roots
24 posted on 04/22/2006 8:43:06 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

That was a great thread...thanks for resurrecting it. I learned a lot from that post.


25 posted on 04/22/2006 8:47:39 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Genetic Study Reveals Hidden Celts Of England
26 posted on 04/22/2006 8:48:01 PM PDT by blam
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To: martin_fierro
They did damned well during the Renaissance
27 posted on 04/22/2006 8:48:18 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (When you're there, that's the best!!)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Archaeologist Find Celts In Unlikely Spot: Central Turkey
28 posted on 04/22/2006 8:52:15 PM PDT by blam
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To: muawiyah
Troy, or Illium (or in other Celtic languages Allium) being a Celtic site.

Seems unlikely, since if the Trojan War took place it was about a thousand years before the Celts showed up in the area of Greece/Asia Minor.

29 posted on 04/22/2006 8:52:45 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: DJ Taylor
Celts? Aren't those the guys who's idea of battle was to strip down naked, paint themselves blue,

No they were called "woads". (It was in King Arthur - The Untold True Story That Inspired The Legend so it must be true)

Celts had proper clothing

They didn't go naked or just wrap themselves in a sheet like the savages to south.

30 posted on 04/22/2006 8:52:51 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain)
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To: Pyro7480

>>>"Couldn't those darn Italians invent anything?
>>>>>>"LOL! Well, they were good at art - architectural, painting, sculpture, and music."

Sophia Loren was reputed by US Italian restaurants to say, "What you see, I owe to spaghetti." Thank you China.


31 posted on 04/22/2006 8:58:00 PM PDT by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: Pharmboy

They took over a region together with the crops and agricultural techniques of the preceding population, and intermingled with it, that's all.


32 posted on 04/22/2006 9:11:11 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Oztrich Boy
"Celtic warriors sometimes fought their battles naked, their bodies dyed blue from head to toe."

Google turned up a plethora of naked, blue Celts, so there must be something to the rumor.

http://www.amusingfacts.com/facts/Detail/celtic-warriors.html

33 posted on 04/22/2006 9:12:48 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: DJ Taylor
Google turned up a plethora of naked, blue Celts, so there must be something to the rumor.

That's the colour the shirts/shiorts they are wearing, not paint (Celtic Warriors Team)

34 posted on 04/22/2006 9:34:45 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain)
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To: Pharmboy
Celts? I thought it was Lucy!


35 posted on 04/22/2006 9:42:34 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: martin_fierro
Couldn't those darn Italians invent anything?

Do tanks with backup-lights count?

36 posted on 04/22/2006 9:44:13 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: muawiyah
>>>>No Italian who knows his classical history would have a problem with that.

I would! It was Lucy! I have pictures!


37 posted on 04/22/2006 9:44:33 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: martin_fierro; blam
Actually the Italians, or more precisely the Etruscans discovered how to make noodles independently of the Chinese. That spaghetti thing is an old mistaken wive's tale. The Italians did invent ice cream though. The Tomatoe of course was brought back by Cristobal Colon from the Caribbean. And that Irish staple the potatoe originated in the Andes, a gift from the Incas. It took the Germans though, to figure out you could boil it. Ahh and Chocolate, thank the Mexicans for that one and some nuns that figured out it tasted better if you added sugar to it.



38 posted on 04/22/2006 9:50:57 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: JNL
And before any PC voices chime in my Grandfather only spoke Gaelic, and he was a strapping man who finally died at 92.

I'll et when I'm 'ungry;
I'll drink when I'm dry;
If'n the whusky don' kill me,
I'll live 'till I die!

The PC crowd can kiss my bonnie Irish lass, who had the good sense to marry a German/Welsh/Cornish/Huguenot man!

39 posted on 04/22/2006 11:22:09 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: martin_fierro

"Yeah, and Marco Polo brought spaghetti from China."

And tomatos for sauce came from Mexico. Wonder what the pasta sauce had, before tomatos? Oil, for one.


40 posted on 04/22/2006 11:26:24 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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