Stunning facts about the proposed immigration bill

NRO ^ | 4-6-06 | Mark Levin

[JustPiper]

SENATOR SESSIONS ON SECURING AMERICA'S BORDERS ACT Mr. President, I thank Senator Leahy, ranking member on the Judiciary Committee. I have received just this afternoon in my office some disturbing news in the form of correspondence from the Congressional Budget Office. It suggests a number of areas where the amendment we are talking about here today, No. 3424, the immigration so-called compromise, violates our budget and the rules of the Senate. Let me read from the correspondence we have received. This is something, as you know, Mr. President, as a member of the Judiciary Committee, that we never discussed at all. It is not a matter we spent any time at all discussing as we moved forward with legislation which ultimately cleared that committee and came to the floor — legislation which I thought was not good legislation and which I opposed, and so did the Senator from Texas, who just relinquished the Chair. We didn't discuss the financial impact of the legislation before us. Stand Up For America !

"We have room for but one flag, the American flag...
We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...
And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

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[Borax Queen]

One thing I've noticed is most of those who chastise posters for speaking out against what is an obvious invasion don't live in areas that have been hijacked yet.

Sooooooooo TRUE.

[TigersEye]

Too true! lol

[JustPiper]

HEADS UP!

Immigrant groups vow mass protests in US cities for amnesty

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Pro-immigrant groups vow giant marches across the country on Monday demanding immigration reform and the legalization of nearly 12 million undocumented migrants living in the United States.

Marches have been organized in 60 cities, including here in the US capital.

Coalitions gathering groups that represent immigrants to the United States, both legal and undocumented, are trying to keep pressure on US legislators to reach a compromise on proposed reforms of US immigration policy.

The April 10 protest "has incredible importance," said Eliseo Medina, head of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) and one of the organizers of the march in New York.

"The community must mobilize with one voice in a disciplined manner, in a peaceful but firm way," he said.

On Monday "we march in the streets, but we will also march to the voting booth in November," during key mid-term elections, said Medina, adding that not all immigrants were undocumented and that many will vote.

In Los Angeles, Miami and other cities, the Catholic Church has called its members to join in the protests.

more...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060409/ts_afp/usimmigrationprotests_060409030539

[TigersEye]

Brit Hume is dealing with subject right now. Arlen Spectre was just on and he actually sounded quite rational about it. (scares me when he does that) He put the blame, properly so, on the Dems for bolloxing the Senate bill. Deep down he doesn't get it but he laid out the truth about the politics of the Senate. He still thinks they will come up with a bill after their recess and he poo-pooed the House bill. We have to keep up the pressure.

Tomorrow I burn up the phone lines, e-mailer and I'll even print out a few snail-mail letters for effect. This is what I will send to many, including some talking heads, in hopes more will pick up on the real issues at stake here.

[JustPiper]

Montgomery Is Criticized Over Credit for Students

The Montgomery County schools' decision to grant students community service credit for attending Monday's immigration rights protest is raising concern among some parents as well as activists who say officials should focus on education, not political advocacy.

Montgomery is the only Washington area school system offering students credit for taking part in the event, to be held on the Mall -- a decision Superintendent Jerry D. Weast said is consistent with how the system has operated.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/07/AR2006040701828_pf.html

[Borax Queen]

It took me awhile to catch on ... and believe me, I'd rather still have that channel on than most of the others. BUT, whenever there is something big going that may go against party line, blah blah, all Fox does is cover murders or something else sensationalist to distract us. What kind of "news" coverage is that??? The country is practically in shambles, but we are only fed what "they" want us to hear.

Not that the other channels - other than Lou Dobbs on CNN - are any better. Thank goodness for the Internet and some other sources.

[JustPiper]

Thousands Rally for Immigrants in Texas

DALLAS (AP) - Tens of thousands banged drums, waved U.S. flags and shouted "Si Se Puede!" - Spanish for "Yes, we can!" - in a protest urging federal lawmakers to pass immigration reform that would legalize an estimated 11 million undocumented workers. Rallies in the capitals of Minnesota and Iowa also drew thousands of protesters.

Dozens of demonstrations nationwide were set for Monday, a signal that what began as a string of disparate events - attracting tens and even hundreds of thousands of people - has become more coordinated.

"We don't have a leader like Martin Luther King or Cesar Chavez, but this is now a national immigrant rights movement," said Joshua Hoyt, director of the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights, which has helped organize Chicago-area rallies.

Read on it gets worse...

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060409/D8GSNH604.html

[Borax Queen]

Oh, very good! I have been calling, faxing, etc. McCain's office told me about two weeks ago that it is our "moral responsibility" to take "everyone" in who wants to come. Nice.

I gave up having Fox on, on weekends - since I wasn't hearing any discussions, or just the trite "jobs that Americans won't do" over the last year and that decreed like gospel truth.

I've heard Brit Hume is better than others on the topic, and may not be involved with the Council on Foreign Relations, so can speak his mind. Lou Dobbs isn't a member either.

[Borax Queen]

I am still catching up and saw all your links at the top of each page. EXCELLENT, excellent job! Kudos!

[TAdams8591]

One doesn't have to live in those areas to "see" it.

[TigersEye]

Pro-immigrant groups vow giant marches across the country on Monday demanding immigration reform and the legalization of nearly 12 million undocumented migrants living in the United States.

The premise here is false. Immigration reform is separate from border security reform. Illegal aliens want to confuse that. So are the Democrats and RINOs. They are invaders not immigrants. These politicians are responding to the demands of illegal foreign nationals not American citizens.

Border security requires addressing two things:
1. Enforcement on the border itself.
2. A rational (as Arlen put it) means of dealing with the 11 - 20 million illegal aliens here already.

I agree with those who say it is not rational to deal with illegal aliens by "rounding them up." It is not rational economically, socially or politically. What is rational and would be highly effective is to enforce the laws we have on American employers who hire illegal foreign nationals. H.R. 4437, while not perfect, has some very good provisions for doing just that. None of the Senate bills do.

Immigration reform should be considered separately from border security reform. Both in public discussion and in legislative process. It should also be considered secondarily to border security reform.

[Smartass]

Thoughts to ponder ?

How Long Do We Have?

About the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution, in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:
"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.

From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage "

Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:
Population of counties won by: Gore: 127 million; Bush: 143 million;
Square miles of land won by: Gore: 580,000; Bush: 2,427,000 States won by: Gore: 19 Bush: 29
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by Gore: 13.2 Bush: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens. Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements living off government welfare..."

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency & apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some 40 percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.

Pass this along to help everyone realize that apathy is also one the greatest danger to our freedom.

[Shuttle Shucker]

Rush sure has been a big help lately though, awakening America to the Limbaugh Laws:

http://www.directory.com.mx/immigration

as parodied oh so truthfully by Rush here:

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/13719.html

[TigersEye]

All of the major TV networks are pathetic and worse when it comes to informing the public honestly and fully. Having a few smatterings of reason in the form of Lou Dobbs, Sean Hannity and Brit Hume comes nowhere close to making up for the lack of responsibility overall.

Occasionally someone on FOX News will say "the media doesn't show you the good things happening in Iraq" but the network never gets around to doing it themselves. We, on FR, know through our direct contacts and wide-ranging sources that there are enough highly positive things going on in Iraq to keep a news station busy 24/7 without any punditry.

If you wanted to throw in some punditry with it the situation in Iraq could be spun into the greatest military/political success in history. But who will ever know apart from those who are there living it? Not the American public.

[Borax Queen]

Not anymore, but for the last five to ten years, it's been largely a lonely battle for those of us in the Southwest. If you knew what was going on, that's good! Clearly you were more aware than "most" - and we did use the word "most." Almost without fail I could tell from the way people talked on the illegal alien and immigration threads if they were from an area thus far unaffected - usually because of their scorn for the rest of us.

That's not to say everyone is unanimous down here in AZ either though. The far left-wing nut jobs, the RINOS/globalists, and the illegal aliens themselves are still in a state of denial and think we should all be one big happy hemisphere.

[La Enchiladita]

Some them I even suspect are being paid for their efforts.

I agree.

[WestCoastGal]

"~Is anyone else ready to pull out their hair listening to Lindsey Graham?"

I listened to him for about 30 seconds yesterday and I wanted to slap him!! I used to like him too. These idiots have no clue that they are ruining their own political future.

[La Enchiladita]

Alrighty then, moving forward....what can I do to help?

No problem. Moving forward. JustPiper is posting lots of links for ways to help. We already have helped with our phone calls, faxes and e-mails.

BTW, I don't have any authority...LOL... to make rules or 'boot' another poster. I just wanted to 'protect' this thread where we can gather and get into action mode, and I'm frankly so fed up with the baiters that show up on the immigration threads.

We have enough stress as it is... Nice to see you, ozarkgirl! I know you've been helping all along! You're a great American!

[La Enchiladita]

This is no "symbol of peace." Another LIE.

They're workin' the media, their good friend. Feh!

[La Enchiladita]

Flat out, we are not going to get good PR from the media. I think that is what is causing you to be doubtful. But it is good to raise the question of how best to approach the Senators... and don't forget the White House!

And, honestly El Patriota, we do not need to bow and scrape to our elected representatives. They work for US. Our job is to straighten them out.