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Lesbian couple found guilty of boy's murder (refused to call mom's dyke friend "daddy"!)
Mail & Guardian (South Africa) ^ | 23 March 2006 | South African Press Union

Posted on 03/25/2006 3:22:01 PM PST by GMMAC

Lesbian couple found guilty of boy's murder

Mail & Guardian (South Africa)
23 March, 2006


A four-year-old boy died after he was brutally assaulted when he refused to call his mother's lesbian lover "Daddy", The Star newspaper reported on Thursday.

Jandre's mother, Hanelie Botha (31), and her partner Engeline de Nysschen (33) appeared in the Vereeniging Regional Court on Wednesday and were found guilty of the boy's gruesome murder.

His father, Jan, sat in court holding the hands of his fiancée, Yolanda Deysel, and listened attentively to Magistrate Rita Willemse, who in her judgement, accepted evidence that among the reasons that led to Jandre's brutal ordeal was his refusal to call De ysschen "Daddy", the paper said.

The court had heard evidence from Lydia Nkomo and her daughter Aletta Lesiba, who worked for the couple in their tuckshop, that De Nysschen had viciously assaulted Jandre while demanding that he must call her "Daddy".

Both testified that while Jandre was assaulted, his mother failed to intervene or protect him. Evidence showed he had sustained horrific injuries, including a fractured skull and brain damage, as well as broken legs, collarbone, hands and pelvis.

The court accepted the evidence of Professor Mohammed Dada, a trauma expert, who said the boy's injuries were similar to those of a person who had fallen from a double-storey building.

Delivering judgement, Willemse acknowledged there was no substantial evidence linking Hanelie to the assaults, but said she was equally guilty of murder for failing in her legal duty to protect her child against abuse and violation.

The court found she had lied to Dr Elna Gibson, one of the medical doctors who treated Jandre, by saying the boy got his injuries after he had slipped in the bath.

The doctors who had examined Jandre dismissed the pair's version that he had slipped in the bath. They said excessive force was required to inflict the kind of fatal injuries sustained by Jandre.

Convicting the two, Willemse dismissed their version and said there was substantial medical evidence before her about the nature of the injuries suffered by Jandre.

The case was postponed until June 26 for a pre-sentencing report.

.......... more detailed coverage (sorry no link)..........


Boy (4) died at hands of lesbian pair
Horrific injuries showed long-term abuse


The Mercury (South Africa)
23 March 2006

By Baldwin Ndaba


Johannesburg: Four-year-old Jandre refused to call his mother's lesbian lover "daddy" - and paid with his life.

Jandre's biological father, Jan Botha, was in the Vereeniging Regional Court's public gallery yesterday when his former wife, Hanelie Botha, 31, and her partner, Engeline de Nysschen, 33, were found guilty of the gruesome murder of his son.

He sat in court, holding his fiancee Yolanda Deysel's hands and listened attentively to Magistrate Rita Willemse who, in her judgment, accepted evidence that among the reasons that led to Jandre's brutal ordeal was his refusal to call De Nysschen "daddy".

The court heard evidence from Lydia Nkomo and her daughter, Aletta Lesiba, who worked for the couple in their tuckshop, that De Nysschen had viciously assaulted Jandre while demanding that he call her daddy.

Both testified that while Jandre was being assaulted his mother had failed to intervene or protect him.

Evidence showed he had sustained horrific injuries, including a fractured skull, brain damage, broken legs, collarbone, hands and pelvis.

The court accepted the evidence of Prof Mohammed Dada, a trauma expert, who said the boy's injuries were similar to that of a person who had fallen from a double-storey building.

Willemse acknowledged that there was not substantial evidence linking Hanelie to the assaults, but said she was equally guilty of murder for failing in her legal duty to protect her child against abuse and violation.

The court found she had lied to Dr Elna Gibson, one of the medical doctors who had treated Jandre, by saying the boy got his injuries after he had slipped in the bath. The court ruled that she had lied to protect De Nysschen.

The doctors who had examined Jandre dismissed the pair's version that he had slipped in the bath. They said excessive force was required to inflict the kind of fatal injuries sustained by Jandre.

Willemse said: "I accept the evidence of the medical personnel, who are experts in their fields. There were substantial documents placed before me.

"Most of them have medical experience which spans over a period of 15 years. All of them have dismissed the version of the accused and were unanimous that the deceased's injuries were inflicted over a period of time.

"It is unthinkable that the biological mother of the child could not have known about these fatal injuries. The deceased also had broken legs and his mother should have been aware of it."

The magistrate criticised Hanelie for failing to report Jandre's abuse at the hands of her lover to social workers who were monitoring Jandre's progress after she had gained custody of him.

The boy's father became aware of Jandre's abuse only on the day of his death on June 12 2003. De Nysschen contacted him and said Jandre had fallen earlier in the day and had died.

Willemse said Hanelie had failed to tell her ex-husband that their child had been admitted to the Vereeniging Medi-Clinic on June 3.

She criticised Hanelie's fitness to be a mother, saying Hanelie's parents, who disliked Jan Botha after the two had divorced, later approached him and gave him financial help to fight for the custody of his child.

"Even your own parents did not deem it fit for you to have custody of the deceased," Willemse said.

Rebuking her, Willemse said: "Hanelie was not helpless. She was well aware of Engeline's violent outburst. She could have called the child's biological father for help, but she failed to do so. She did nothing to protect her own child."

The magistrate called De Nysschen a liar and a hopeless witness who had contradicted herself in testimony.

De Nysschen said earlier in her plea explanation that she had hit Jandre hard once with her fist but during her testimony, changed her version and admitted to a series of beatings.

She, however, maintained that the child's injuries had been caused by him slipping in the bath. Hanelie and De Nysschen were further convicted for assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm and child neglect for failing to provide or seek treatment for Jandre's limb fractures.

The case was postponed until June 26.


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KEYWORDS: childabuse; gayagenda; gaystapo; homopromogaystapo; homosexual; homosexualagenda
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To: GMMAC

Now hang them high.


61 posted on 03/25/2006 7:55:33 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Socratic

I got a glimpse just a few weeks ago as a jurist on a child abuse trial.


62 posted on 03/25/2006 8:14:19 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

How sad it must have been for you to be so close to the dissection of evil and its effects. I hope the issuance of justice somehow lessened the pain.


63 posted on 03/25/2006 8:22:13 PM PST by Socratic ("I'll have the roast duck with the mango salsa.")
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To: Hildy

to keep it simple, how about your post #17 - which I then asked you to clarify in my #31 - which you then ignored?


64 posted on 03/25/2006 8:23:27 PM PST by GMMAC (paraphrasing Parrish: "damned Liberals, I hate those bastards!")
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To: GMMAC

Most likely won't read about this in the national media the same way you hardly heard about those two gay guys that tortured and killed that young kid a few years ago. Now when it is a gay guy killed by some red necks you will hear about it for weeks. And have Elton John and Jesse Jackson show up for the funeral.


65 posted on 03/25/2006 8:36:38 PM PST by hodaka
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To: GMMAC

Man, them ladies is ugly.


66 posted on 03/25/2006 8:39:35 PM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("I'm kind of a parasite." Noam Chomsky)
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To: the invisib1e hand
...anyway they both look awfully butch.

Which is absolutely consistent with the theory that "homosexuals" are essentially NARCISSISTS that see their sex buddies as extensions of themselves.

67 posted on 03/25/2006 8:56:33 PM PST by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: SAMS
"So does "daddy" get put in with the male prison population? It would sure be fitting" Look the poor guys are already in prison, don't you think they are suffering enough??

No. He he he.

68 posted on 03/25/2006 9:27:47 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: Caramelgal

Unless you have experience with homosexuals, I guess you just are unable to understand the point. You are arguing that they are just like other people, and yet you admit you know none.

Kindly make friends with a few homosexuals and learn for yourself, and dont bother repeating your social programing with attitude. The TV set is quite enough source for that.

In fact, in my experience, most homosexuals are simply people with a totaly crappy family structure who do not have proper gender roles demonstrated to them in childhood. They are not "sick", they are abused, neglected and deeply scarred children that grew up.


69 posted on 03/25/2006 10:54:59 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Hildy
As far as adoption goes, in a perfect world, there would be a married couple for every child that needs to be adopted. But that is not the case, as we know. I would rather a child be with a loving gay person or gay couple than be in the goverment foster system

That really isn't true, you know. It has become politically correct to place children for adoption with gay couples, bypassing the long line of hetero couples begging for a child. This is happening in terms of foster care for children, as well.

70 posted on 03/26/2006 1:43:09 AM PST by WaterDragon
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To: Malsua
If that poor kid had only had a father in his life, it wouldn't have happened.

According to the article, this boy's father was present in court for the trial. What I wonder is, why didn't the father have custody of the boy in the first place? The article doesn't say.

71 posted on 03/26/2006 1:45:49 AM PST by WaterDragon
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To: GMMAC

Are you saying that men NEVER abandon their children? Are you saying it's all a plot by women?


72 posted on 03/26/2006 6:02:17 AM PST by Hildy
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To: GMMAC

Now, now. They're just as "normal" as you and me. Don't you know that lesbian womyn and their relationships are the model we should all strive for in our hetero relationships?

All of you; back to the Re-Education Camp, immediately! /SARCASM


73 posted on 03/26/2006 6:06:16 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: GMMAC

I'm sure heterosexual step-parents have never abused/murdered their step-children. [eyes rolling]


74 posted on 03/26/2006 6:07:21 AM PST by jaime1959
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To: Dallas59

This is a wonderful testimonial for GAY ADOPTION/ NOT!!!


75 posted on 03/26/2006 6:27:01 AM PST by doberville
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To: Hildy

Me thinks you doth protest too much.


76 posted on 03/26/2006 6:31:19 AM PST by doberville
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To: GMMAC

Uh...they both look like "daddy".


77 posted on 03/26/2006 6:33:34 AM PST by Recovering Hermit (I will not need to come here again…I will send my android instead.)
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To: GMMAC
Guilty: Engeline De Nysschen has been found guilty of murder.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Whoseurdaddynow?

Sick B__tch!

The MSM should plaster this all over the place!

78 posted on 03/26/2006 6:36:48 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: doberville

Yea, I really do believe lesbians kill because they don't have a penis..ya got me.


79 posted on 03/26/2006 6:39:34 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy

This one did.


80 posted on 03/26/2006 8:33:16 AM PST by kenth
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