Posted on 03/23/2006 3:59:46 AM PST by SheLion
Dozens of cities and towns have already banned smoking in such clubs, which include veterans' posts and ethnic heritage clubs. The high court's decision keeps these bans in place.
(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...
This is a GREAT article written by Bill Fundis of Niagara Falls. Anyone living in New York State or any othe NANNY state will relate to this (toung in cheek):
NIAGARA FALLS GAZETTE Published: March 19, 2006 08:08 pm
The treacherous journey to ... Pennsylvania
I left New York state for a while March 13, and I’m just glad I made it back alive. I was in a ruthless society, where people could smoke inside buildings, talk on their cell phones while driving, buy fireworks, stun guns and pepper spray, ride their motorcycles without helmets and even get away without having to pay sales tax on the clothes that they buy. There were probably other wanton acts being performed there that I didn’t see or realize, like letting a parking meter run out for 15 or 20 seconds, but I was just looking out for people doing the aforementioned things and steering clear of them.
Of course, I’m talking about our neighbor to the south, Pennsylvania. As I approached the Pennsylvania border, I didn’t know what to expect. I never felt so vulnerable and unsafe. New York state does such a good job of protecting me from myself that when I left that environment, I didn’t know how to act. I don’t smoke, use fireworks, pepper spray, stun guns or ride helmetless, but I wanted to, just for that day, to see if I would survive.
Going home, as I approached the border of New York state, I began to get nervous. I started to feel choked. Was I on the cell phone? Thank God I wasn’t! I made it to the border alive.
As I left those toll-free, well-maintained Pennsylvania highways, I started wondering if there was anything that I bought there that I could possibly claim on my New York state income tax form to help my state squeeze more tax dollars out of me. Unfortunately, there wasn’t. As I gladly paid my tolls at the Ogden and Grand Island toll barriers, leaving those toll-free road behind me, I knew I was back to safety. As my trailer bounced happily all over the “well-maintained” roads that I pay tolls and taxes for, I breathed a sigh of relief. I don’t have to think for myself anymore. New York state will do that for me.
Bill Fundis
Niagara Falls
Copyright
Somebody had the money to go to court in the Mass. case--but the Courts ruled against common sense and the Constitution.
Doesn't matter how much money you have to go to court if the courts are hell-bent on making up law.
I know it. And now others are running scared because after they are finished with smokers and cigarettes, what OTHER groups will they go after?
America will never be the one we grew up in and loved. We can never go back to those days. The days of "Live and let live" are over. 
It is a good one! Ha Ha! Tons of truth!
By GARRY RAYNO
Union Leader Staff
2 hours, 13 minutes ago
[EXCERPTS]
It will now go to the Senate, where its fate is uncertain.
Supporters of House Bill 1177 said the ban is necessary to protect the health and safety of workers in the hospitality industry exposed to second-hand smoke.
Opponents of the bill called it government intrusion into private business and said restaurant and bar owners should decide for themselves whether to allow smoking in their businesses.
House members spent 2½ hours debating the bill and voted down several amendments, including banning smoking in private social clubs, requiring restaurants to wall off smoking areas and banning smoking when a child is present.
Current law allows smoking in restaurants seating fewer than 50 customers and in segregated areas that have a physical barrier.
During the debate, Rep. Steve Vaillancourt, R-Manchester, urged the House to add social clubs to the ban. It was hypocrisy not to include the private bars such as the VFW or American Legion, which he said are often more smoke-filled than other bars.
“If you ban smoking in restaurants, you should ban smoking in social clubs and bars,” he said.
His proposal was voted down, 282-61.
A proposal to more clearly define what segregation of a smoking area entails was shot down on a 242-103 vote.
A proposal to ban smoking when a child is present anywhere — including private residences — was killed on a 310-36 vote.
And soon enough, so will cigarettes be. And maybe, just maybe, you will then better understand the connection, when someone says to you befuddled and patronizing at the same time, "You know cigarettes are illegal."
I think you are wrong, Huck. The government offered the FDA to take over cigarettes on many occasions, and the FDA will not. For the simple fact that they couldn't deem cigarettes to be safe, therefore they would have to ban them.
And if you only knew how much money smokers contribute to the state economy, and there is no other way for the states to find this revenue EXCEPT through smokers cigarettes taxes, then you will understand why I say what I do about cigarettes not being banned any time soon.
Sure, the anti (christ) smokers can ban smoking everywhere under the sun, but they will not ban cigarettes.
You sound a little hostile Huck over this subject. Why is that?
Well you bring up a good point. I guess for the rest of us, it's the best of both worlds. Keep the smokers penned in and shut out, all the while fleecing them to feed the gubmint's appetite. Sounds like a plan. Might as well tax heroin and cocaine, now that you mention it.
No, I think there is more going on with you then just your hate for smokers.
And you can't TAX heroin and cocaine until you make it legal. Maybe THAT is what is biting at your butt. Your two favorite candies in this whole wide world is illegal and you have to sneak it behind closed doors.
I pity you if that's the case. At least "I" have a clear head going through life.
Your grasp of the obvious should be an inspirations to dolts everywhere.
Your two favorite candies in this whole wide world is illegal
LOL. For one thing, I've never even tried heroin or cocaine, though I've been offered both on several occasions. For another, that would be "two favorite candies...ARE illegal." Learn English.
Your grasp of the obvious should be an inspirations to dolts everywhere.
LOL. For one thing, I've never even tried heroin or cocaine, though I've been offered both on several occasions. For another, that would be "two favorite candies...ARE illegal." Learn English.
I have some English for you! KISS MY ARZE!
The straw man came in @ post #16 this time.
Guess NH will have to change their slogan, then.
What's with all the illegal substance users on a conservative website of late?
Since tobacco is still legal and your state is capitalizing on the anti-nicotine frenzy, where will your state look to to continue to fund its overdrawn coffers once you have driven the smokers underground? For some reason gasoline, alcohol and fast foods come to mind.... HeHeHeHehe.........
And maybe, just maybe, you will then better understand the connection between legal government extortion and all the checks and balances our founding fathers tried to put into the constitution to prevent this crap.
I have come to the realization that those Founders never gave a thought that our society would eventually evolve to this point where actual so called conservatives would embrace these socialist principles.......
''We were concerned they would rule the other way," said Joyce Redford, program director for the North Shore Tobacco Control Program.
This is a complete tolitarian action, nothing more, nothing less.
Soon they WILL be invading our homes with this.
TOTAL INSANITY.
Welcme to the USSA. (united socialist states of Amerika.)
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