Posted on 01/15/2006 10:56:28 AM PST by george76
Edited on 01/15/2006 11:16:36 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
FOR THE second year in a row...the population of Massachusetts has shrunk.
It was one of only three states to end the year with fewer people than it had at the start -- New York and Rhode Island were the others -- and the only one to do so for the second year running.
(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...
2. The French Canadians settle in Fort Lauderdale and Hollywood. The Jewish Canadians settle in Boca Raton and other towns in PBC. The Anglo Canadians are scattered along the west coast and farther up the east coast toward Daytona.
NYS---Net loss in population every year for the past 20 years.
Downstate may be different since NYC seems to be staggeringly immune to the economic woes of the state. IN the upstate regions, there are small towns where a few people are left. Most of them do not migrate to the cities, but just move out.
As kids, we used to refer to upstate as the Igloo. Downstate has been doing VERY WELL due to the stock market and real estate. Upstate hasn't been the same since the loss of the steel mills, textile mills, and other industrial concerns.
Eleni, I understand that many upstaters are moving to Arizona. Is that the case?
Eleni, I understand that many upstaters are moving to Arizona. Is that the case?
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They are moving anyhere the shines economically and climatically. Arizona, the Carolinas, Tennessee, Florida, Mexico, etc.
Here in WNY the two main private concerns going under - or at least downsized in a major way - are Delphi and GM plants. When they do, the area will undergo a crisis that has not been seen since the great depression. Then maybe the sheeple will wake up and kick out the Dems.
The Taylor Law is killing this state.
they should have legalized casino gambling in the catskills years ago.
the Taylor Law? the one that bans public employees from going on strike? I am missing the connection here.
You meet a hell of a lot of young upstaters in Boston. It's where many of them move when they want to live in a city near home, because moving to NYC itself is unthinkable and it's too hard to work legally in Toronto.
TL is a double edged sword. It is double edged in that it takes away management rights to unilaterally impose a settlement. The legislature gets involved when there is no agreement and thus corruption and high costs continue to accumulate.
In other words, when a union refuses to cooperate with cost cutting and reforms, management cannot lock them out. They cannot be fired and replaced. This is killing our state.
Does the Taylor Law affect private businesses and their unions as well as governments and their unions?
Massachusetts has a flat personal income tax. Again and again, liberals have tried to introduce different rate brackets, but a referendum is necessary and the electorate has voted it down four times. Apparently two consecutive sessions of both houses of the legislature have to vote a constitutional amendment and the voters have to approve it in a referendum.
It seems to work, at least as far as keeping taxes down is concerned. Voters also had a cap on local property taxes written into the constitution in an initiative election. In Massachusetts initiative and referendum don't work so well for conservatives on social issues. But when it comes to people's own money they don't always make the wrong choice -- if they do get a chance to choose.
What you see now with Massachusans moving to New Hampshire or Californians moving to Arizona or Idaho seems like the way of the world. Cities get crowded. Taxes and crime increase, so people move out. A half century ago people were moving from the cities to the new suburbs. Now they move further away.
In the past, this was offset by people from rural states moving into industrial areas to work. But now the industries are moving out to those greener fields and taking the jobs with them, and the more of the newcomers to industrial cities in both the blue and the red states come from outside the country.
Enjoy your retirement, you deserve it.
I don't get your story. If you look at charitable donations, Massachusetts ranks at the very bottom of states in terms of donations.
" He said he was already under pressure at work for not allocating enough of his salary to give to pan handlers and could not afford professionally to be involved in an incident that involved refusing to give money."
Out by Jones Beach is really nice.
I was out there on Friday in Old Westbury. It was very nice, but the traffic is just terrible going anywhere.
Upstate is nice, but dead. There is literally nothing to do and the popultation reflects it.
I went to the Adirondacks on a white water rafting trip last year and it looked like something out of National Geographic. however, the prices of houses and real estate were not that cheap that i would consider investing anything. That is why young people are leaving as fast as they can.
I am not far from Yonkers raceway and they are currently installing 6,000 slot machines down there.
No more trips to AC for granny, its down the street to Yonkers!
The only place in NY that I really like, even though I live here, is either the area near Jones Beach or Riverdale right near Wave Hill.
As a Long Island boy, I would say that the North Shore towns are nicer than the South Shore, albeit quite snobby, especially if you are not MOT. Malverne was a GREAT small town to grow up in (quick commute on the LIRR, nice downtown area), but the schools s-cked. I'd avoid Long Island, although South Shore the beaches are the nicest in the northeast.
My favorite place in NY to live? I love Brooklyn Heights, and the western section of Bay Ridge near the water. I wouldn't mind living in the East 70s in Manhattan, but I would need a country home upstate to escape to (probably in Woodstock).
"I don't get your story. If you look at charitable donations, Massachusetts ranks at the very bottom of states in terms of donations. "
There are several possibilities...
I've never lived in Boston or L.A. and when I go there I go specificially to the high tech areas. Maybe the people I deal with are not typical in their donation patterns. Or maybe they give when others can see but don't give quietly in private like many church goers do.
I've also noticed that many of the states with lowest donations tend to have have high state taxes and recieve less Federal benefits than they pay in Federal taxes - maybe the people already feel they contribute through taxes.
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