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Rose Bowl Live Thread
1/4/05 | me

Posted on 01/03/2006 8:36:04 PM PST by BurbankKarl

Edited on 01/04/2006 2:22:49 PM PST by Lead Moderator. [history]

On January 4, 2006 at 5:00 p.m. (PST) the Rose Bowl Game will host the BCS National Championship, between USC and Texas once again showcasing the best of collegiate football in "The Granddaddy of Them All."® The Rose Bowl will be broadcast exclusively on ABC and on ESPN radio.

Link to ESPN Scoreboard


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bcs; bowlgames; collegefootball; football; hookemhorns; longhorns; nationalchampionship; ncaa; pasadena; rosebowl; sports; texas; texasgetsowned; texaswillkillusc; trojans; usc; uscgetsowned; uscwasp0wned
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To: soccermom
And how many of those teams did Texas play?

The point is that Auburn and LSU had to play all of those teams in their championship years. Ohio State also had to beat all of the quality Big-10 teams in their championship years too. LSU also beat Oklahoma and Auburn beat Virginia Tech in their championship years.

Basically the regular season is a warmup to the USC - the same way it used to be to Nebraska in the early 90s. That is a huge advantage as you don't have many injuies and since there are so few high quality teams, the odds of going unbeaten and playing for a championship are almost guaranteed.

3,541 posted on 01/05/2006 8:57:10 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: soccermom
And the coaches' poll also reflected that view.

What view?

3,542 posted on 01/05/2006 8:58:21 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta
USC went through the last two season with almost zero major injuries to any of their starters

You're kidding, right?

These are some of the starters this past year that have missed games or the entire season...

LB Dallas Sart (defensive captain) KR Desmond Reed WR Patrick Turner LB Keith Rivers LB Thomas Williams CB Will Harris DE Jeff Schweiger CB Terrell Thomas CB John Walker CB Kevin Thomas DT LaJuan Ramsey LB Brian Cushing C Jeff Beyer (Freshman All-American)-out for entire season. People who play significant minutes who missed multiple games or season: WR Greig Carlson DE Chris Barrett DE Kyle Moore

There are other players that were injured,but these were some on the key players. You'll notice that many are on the defensive side of the ball. It got so bad that USC was trying out receivers as defensive backs. Sorry, I know every team has injuries - It's just after I saw your comment, I had to speak up.

PS - the year (2004) before's injuries included the following starters that cause these players to miss 1 game or more: WR Steve Smith (broken leg), S Darnell Bing, S Scott Ware, TE Dominique Byrd, FB Brandon Hancock, CBs Kevin Arbett, CB Ronald Nunn, LG John Drake , DT Manuel Wright, OT Winston Justice (suspended for season)

3,543 posted on 01/05/2006 8:58:21 AM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: JeffAtlanta

You ever notice how many quality players in the NFL did not play for any of the "major" college teams?


3,544 posted on 01/05/2006 8:59:21 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush and the SAPPS)
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To: aft_lizard

that wasn't points on the board. much different.


3,545 posted on 01/05/2006 8:59:52 AM PST by jw777
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To: JeffAtlanta

"The point is that Auburn and LSU had to play all of those teams in their championship years." And yet LSU barely beat Oklahoma, while USC beat the snot out of them the following year -- with the same Heisman winner quarterbacking both OK teams.


3,546 posted on 01/05/2006 9:00:13 AM PST by soccermom
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To: jw777

It allowed them to move in and score, no different.


3,547 posted on 01/05/2006 9:02:21 AM PST by aft_lizard (What does G-d look like then if we evolved from nothing?See Genesis Ch 1:26-27)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

I missed UCLA...my bad..apologies to all..

The Pac-10 was 1-3 in post season. Of course UCLA lost during the regular season to Arizona State which was ranked 113th in the nation in defense.


3,548 posted on 01/05/2006 9:03:23 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
You ever notice how many quality players in the NFL did not play for any of the "major" college teams?

Notice how many NFL running backs played for Tennessee or Miami. Just last year UT had Travis Henry, Travis Stephens, Charlie Garner and Jamal Lewis. I think that Miami currently has 5 starting RBs.

The talent comes from everywhere in college football, but it is most concentrated in the SEC, Big-10, Big-12 and ACC teams. Washington State may have one or two future NFL players but a team like Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, Auburn, FSU, Miami, Ohio State, Michigan or Virginia Tech might have 10-15 future NFL players on the team at any one time.

3,549 posted on 01/05/2006 9:04:44 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: aft_lizard

wrong. possession does not guarantee a score. scoring guarantees a score.

have a nice day.


3,550 posted on 01/05/2006 9:05:15 AM PST by jw777
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To: jw777

You are right, but on that possesion they scored. You have a good day.


3,551 posted on 01/05/2006 9:06:03 AM PST by aft_lizard (What does G-d look like then if we evolved from nothing?See Genesis Ch 1:26-27)
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To: Impeach the Boy

Actually, the Pac-10 was 3-2 in the bowls (you forgot Cal & ASU) and UCLA lost to Arizona not ASU.


3,552 posted on 01/05/2006 9:07:01 AM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: aft_lizard

I know I'm right. I'm already having a great day.

Take care of yourself.


3,553 posted on 01/05/2006 9:07:13 AM PST by jw777
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To: Tolkien

My good friends are currently in Austin on business. They said the city was LOUD last night!

Despite the fact that they are A&M grads they happily cheered for UT.


3,554 posted on 01/05/2006 9:09:38 AM PST by Kewz1
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To: Impeach the Boy

Actually, 3-2

Cal beat unranked BYU (6-5) 35-28
Arizona State beat unranked Rutgers (7-4) 45-40
UCLA beat unranked Northwestern (7-4) 50-38

Then
Unranked Oklahoma (7-4) beat Oregon (10-1) 17-14
Texas (12-0) beat USC (12-0) 41-38

Pac 10 was 3-2, 1-4 against the spread.


3,555 posted on 01/05/2006 9:09:52 AM PST by RabidBartender
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To: soccermom
And yet LSU barely beat Oklahoma, while USC beat the snot out of them the following year -- with the same Heisman winner quarterbacking both OK teams.

You're really graspingn now. The LSU-Oklahoma game wasn't close either. LSU dominated the game from start to finish.

Also, college teams change from year even if they keep the same QB. Penn State only one 3 or 4 games last year and now they're ranked #4 this year.

To be honest, Oklahoma benefitted from the same weak conference those years that USC did. Nebraska, Kansas State were really down and the only game that was any challenge at all was Texas.

The undeserved lovefest that the media gave Oklahoma has only been exceeded by that they have for USC.

3,556 posted on 01/05/2006 9:10:00 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Kewz1
Despite the fact that they are A&M grads they happily cheered for UT.

If you want to see some bitter people, check out this A&M message board.

A&M grads are generally decently cool but the ones on the internet are just sick.

3,557 posted on 01/05/2006 9:13:28 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Preachin'
The role of quarterbacks changes as fast as any other position in any sport.

But not nearly as much in the NFL. The biggest change in NFL quarterbacks these days is that they are bigger -- but not necessarily faster -- than they were 25 years ago.

If anything, the trend in the NFL has been to discourage QBs from running too much. In the NFL, a quarterback's mobility really only serves one purpose -- to avoid pressure and buy additional time to find an open receiver downfield. With salary cap rules in place that preclude NFL teams from carrying any kind of depth at any position, starting QBs are worth their weight in gold and are protected at all expense. No NFL coach wants to see his quarterback running around downfield exposing himself to serious injury.

If Young is going to become an NFL quarterback, he's going to have to do it on the strength of his passing. His mobility will be a bonus, but NFL teams don't win games with their QBs running for 200 yards.

. . . and I can see teams having a set of starters who can alternate between various roles.

I agree, but only at certain positions. I'm surprised we haven't seen NFL teams open additional roster spaces by having players fill two "non-essential" roles -- like a backup linebacker serving as a third tight end, a good athlete who plays as a fifth wide receiver and a sixth defensive back, etc. You probably won't see this kind of thing among key players, though -- mainly because the NFL game is played at such a high skill level that specialization is needed for most of these positions.

3,558 posted on 01/05/2006 9:14:03 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Said the night wind to the little lamb . . . "Do you see what I see?")
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To: Kewz1
Forgot the link...

12th man

3,559 posted on 01/05/2006 9:14:39 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Alberta's Child

Rush will settle all of this for us, after the break.


3,560 posted on 01/05/2006 9:16:12 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush and the SAPPS)
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