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World Terrorism : Weapons of Disruption Onging...
http://www.fredcowie.com/presentations/index.htm ^ | Jan.1, 2006 | Frederick J. Cowie, Ph.D.

Posted on 01/01/2006 6:41:58 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT

Weapons of Disruption

C 2006 Frederick J. Cowie, Ph.D.

Whereas we have no masses, it certainly would be seriously challenging to deliver a "weapon of mass destruction" in the vast majority of geographical areas in the American West, as well as in many areas in the East and South. For instance, Montana is approximately the size of Germany, yet the population hovers only around a million (we have one representative in the House). There is no "metropolitan" area anywhere around, though Spokane is about three hundred miles away. Wyoming has more sheep than people. Utah has Salt Lake City and a few nearby populous areas. Nevada has two populated regional areas, Las Vegas and Reno. North and South Dakota have, well, a few folks here and there. Idaho folks are few and far between. I swear you can drive from San Antonio to El Paso without seeing a city policeman, because I've done it several times. Then there are Arizona, New Mexico, eastern California, inter alia. The point is we have a few population points, while the rest of the states are empty excepted for isolated small communities.Thus, out West we probably need to talk more about "weapons of disruption." (Some folks say "weapons of mass disruption," but we have no masses!)

You must ask yourself: What would I do if I were a terrorist (or a terrorism preparedness instructor) looking into the ramifications of launching a rural terrorism attack? Personally, I would concentrate on considering the consequences of disruption rather than mass destruction. Here are a few scenarios you might want consider when your local rural emergency management/response group gathers to discuss terrorism exercises.

1) Wildland Fire Incidents: Incendiary (mostly wildland) warfare has been used by military strategists for at least 2500 years, over a thousand years before the use of gunpowder. The western U.S. is disrupted, seriously disrupted, every year by wildland fires. Quite a few are started by humans, accidentally and purposefully. Starting dozens of major fires in a dozen western states could be a brilliant line of attack if militants wished to disrupt America. Thousands of security personnel could do nothing and the perpetrator/s would probably never be implicated, much less captured. Are you prepared?

2) Railroad Chemical Incidents: Many railroad main lines go through tunnels. A few strategically placed armor-piercing shells in a series of chlorine cars, along with appropriately staged derailments leaving the leaking cars in the tunnels, could shut down many main line routes in the West. Spin-off scenarios are numerous. Ready?

3) Flammable Liquid Incidents: Bridges are not easily brought down from below and approaches to bridge support structures are often highly visible and randomly monitored. However, on CNN we all have seen many tanker truck accidents involving burning hydrocarbons which have made bridge structures unusable. How hard would it be to have a few terrorists steal trucks and drive them (as opposed to hijacking planes and flying them) to strategic bridges over wide rivers or narrow gorges, ignite the gasoline (or diesel or crude), block the approaches with other incendiary or chemical releases, and make the structures extremely dangerous and impassible to highway traffic? Gotcha!

There are many variations of these themes. You probably have or can make up many more plausible, novel, and easily implemented rural-specific attack scenarios. Design exercises around them. If you want to stop terrorist events you must think like a terrorist and quit fighting last year's war!

Peace, thanks, Fred

Please check out my website at fredcowie.com

To find recent presentations, Google (with quotation marks) "Fred Cowie"

Frederick J. (Fred) Cowie, Ph.D. E-mail: fredcowie@aol.com Phone: (24 hr cell) 406-431-3531 Website: fredcowie.com


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To: nw_arizona_granny; ExSoldier; All
Are we sending a message? I thought we could alluded do this kind of stuff? Exercise Global Lightning I like it.

Preemptive Nuclear War in a State of Readiness: U.S. Command Declares Global Strike Capability


by David Ruppe

January 2, 2006
Global Security Newswire - 2005-12-02


WASHINGTON — The U.S. Strategic Command announced yesterday it had achieved an operational capability for rapidly striking targets around the globe using nuclear or conventional weapons, after last month testing its capacity for nuclear war against a fictional country believed to represent North Korea (see GSN, Oct. 21).

In a press release yesterday, STRATCOM said a new Joint Functional Component Command for Space and Global Strike on Nov. 18 “met requirements necessary to declare an initial operational capability.”

The requirements were met, it said, “following a rigorous test of integrated planning and operational execution capabilities during Exercise Global Lightning.”

The annual Global Lightning exercise last month tested U.S. strategic warfare capabilities, including the so-called CONPLAN 8022 mission for a global strike, according to publicly available military documents.

CONPLAN 8022 is “a new strike plan that includes [a] pre-emptive nuclear strike against weapons of mass destruction facilities anywhere in the world,” said Hans Kristensen, a consultant for the Natural Resources Defense Council. Kristensen first published the STRATCOM press release on his Web site, nukestrat.com.

Military analyst William Arkin, in a column on the Washington Post Web site in October, wrote that the classified exercise involved the response to a radiological “dirty bomb” attack on Alabama by the fictional country Purple or allied terrorists. “In the exercise, Purple is a Northeast Asian nation thinly veiled as North Korea,” according to Arkin.

Maj. Jeff Jones, STRATCOM spokesman, said today that the exercise incorporated various scenarios and added, “Everything is fictional that we put in the exercise.”

Global Lightning employed command and control personnel, according to the STRATCOM release.

Global strike attacks could be launched from U.S. long-range bombers, nuclear submarines or land-based ballistic missiles, according to the STRATCOM Web site.

The new command was created Aug. 9 in an attempt to integrate broad elements of U.S. military power into global strike plans and operations.

That, according to an Arkin commentary in the Washington Post in May, could include anything from electronic jamming to penetrating computer networks, to commando operations, to the use of a nuclear earth penetrator. CONPLAN 8022, he wrote, is intended to address two scenarios using such capabilities: preventing a suspected imminent nuclear attack from a small state, and attacking an adversary’s suspected WMD infrastructure.

STRATCOM Commander Gen. James Cartwright said at an opening ceremony that the new command would help the country convey a “new kind of deterrence.”

According to the STRATCOM release, “The command’s performance during Global Lightning demonstrated preparedness to execute its mission of providing integrated space and global strike capabilities to deter and dissuade aggressors and when directed, defeat adversaries through decisive joint global effects in support of STRATCOM missions.”

According to Arkin’s article in May, CONPLAN 8022 was completed in 2003, “putting in place for the first time a pre-emptive and offensive strike capability against Iran and North Korea.”

STRATCOM’s readiness for global strike was certified to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and President George W. Bush in January 2004, Arkin reported.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=RUP20060102&articleId=1705
41 posted on 01/02/2006 7:04:44 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (I can't stay on topic!)
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http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/01/01/questions_the_islamic_society_should_answer/

JEFF JACOBY
Questions the Islamic Society should answer

By Jeff Jacoby, Globe Columnist | January 1, 2006

EVER SINCE 9/11, we learned last month, federal officials have been
monitoring radiation levels around a number of American mosques. It is
an understandable precaution, given Al Qaeda's interest in acquiring
nuclear weapons, and its history of mass murder.
(snip)

the need to focus self-defensive
attention on mosques. Unfortunately, we are at war with violent
Islamist radicals, and they are not above using mosques to incubate
terrorism. If there is evidence of heightened radioactivity around a
Muslim facility, the government should be aware of it, and should find
out -- lawfully, (snip)

The federal monitors have been checking for physical radiation, but
there are other ways in which mosques can be radioactive.
Last year, for example, Freedom House issued a report on the extent to
which Saudi publications in US mosques promote Wahhabism, the harsh,
supremacist version of Islam that is the established creed in Saudi
Arabia. Many of these publications, it turned out, were riddled with
religious bigotry. They advocated contempt for ''infidels," portrayed
America as alien territory, and urged Muslims to prepare for jihad.

Considering the use of such teachings in recruiting terrorists, one
might well view the presence of this literature in the library of an
American mosque as ''radioactive," and a legitimate cause for concern.
Which brings us to the roiling controversy over the mosque being built
by the Islamic Society of Boston -- a controversy made all the worse
by an abusive lawsuit the Islamic Society has filed against its
critics.

When completed, the $24 million mosque will be the largest Muslim
house of prayer in the Northeastern United States. The Islamic Society
has pledged that it will also be a center for moderation, peace, and
dialogue among different religious communities. It was in part on the
strength of that pledge that the Islamic Society was allowed to buy
the land for the mosque from the city for a fraction of its fair
market value.

But for more than two years, questions have been raised about just how
committed the Islamic Society really is to moderation and interfaith
understanding. Beginning with reports in the Boston Herald, news
outlets, citizen groups, political officials, and private citizens
have been pointing out disturbing signs of extremist ''radioactivity"
around the Islamic Society and its leadership.

To mention only a few:
• The society's original founder, Abdurahman Alamoudi, is now serving
a 23-year prison term for his role in an assassination plot. The
Treasury Department identified him as a fund-raiser for Al Qaeda, and
he has publicly proclaimed his support for two notorious terrorist
groups, Hamas and Hezbollah.


• Yusef al Qaradawi, who for several years was listed as a trustee in
Islamic Society of Boston tax filings and on the Islamic Society
website -- the Islamic Society now claims that was due to an
''administrative oversight" -- is a radical Islamist cleric who has
endorsed suicide bombings and the killing of Americans in Iraq. In
2002, he was invited to address an Islamic Society fund-raiser, but
had to do so by video from Qatar -- he has been barred since 1999 from
entering the United States.


• Another Islamic Society trustee, Walid Fitaihi, is the author of
writings that denounce Jews as ''murderers of the prophets" who
''brought the worst corruption to the earth" and should be punished
for their ''oppression, murder, and rape of the worshipers of Allah."
After Fitaihi's words were reported in the Boston press, the Islamic
Society was urged to unequivocally repudiate them. It took seven
months before it finally did so.

• When Ahmed Mansour, an Egyptian-born Muslim scholar, examined the
Islamic Society's library in 2003, he found books and videotapes
promoting hostility toward the United States and insulting other
religions. Among the publications on hand were several of those listed
in the Freedom House report.

Individually, none of these points proves that there is anything amiss
with the Islamic Society. Taken together, they give rise to obvious
questions and concerns.

Surely the Islamic Society, which emphasizes
its commitment to moderation, tolerance, and dialogue, should be at
pains to answer those questions and allay those concerns. Instead it
accuses its critics of defamation, and has sued many of them for -- of
all things -- conspiring to deprive Boston-area Muslims of their
religious freedom.

But the last thing Muslims in Boston or anywhere else need is a
leadership that treats legitimate public misgivings as an anti-Muslim
''conspiracy," or that launches specious lawsuits in order to
intimidate those looking into its record.

The Islamic Society's
overreaction does rank-and-file Muslims no favors -- and gives all of
us, Muslim and non-Muslim alike, another reason to wonder about its
motives.

Jeff Jacoby's e-mail address is jacoby@globe.com.


42 posted on 01/02/2006 7:11:09 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Socialist=communist,elected to office,paid with your taxes: http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Global strike attacks could be launched from U.S. long-range
bombers, nuclear submarines or land-based ballistic missiles,
according to the STRATCOM Web site.<<<

Sounds very useful to me.........

That, according to an Arkin commentary in the Washington Post in May, could include anything
from electronic jamming to penetrating computer networks, to commando operations, to the use of
a nuclear earth penetrator. CONPLAN 8022, he wrote, is intended to address two scenarios using
such capabilities: preventing a suspected imminent nuclear attack from a small state, and
attacking an adversary’s suspected WMD infrastructure.<<<<

Perfect.

Now if it only works as planned........


43 posted on 01/02/2006 7:16:56 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Socialist=communist,elected to office,paid with your taxes: http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; MamaDearest; Cindy; ExSoldier; Founding Father; All

Reputed Terrorist Al-Zarqawi Still Shrouded in U.S.-Fed Myth, Mystery
http://newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/1546

GSS: 900% Increase in Terrorist Smuggling in Four Months
According to the report, released Monday, there has been a 900% increase in the number of anti-tank missile launchers Arab terrorists have brought into Gaza from Egypt since Israel's unilateral withdrawal in August as compared with the preceding seven months. Approximately 350 anti-tank missiles were brought across the border in the same post-Disengagement period, representing a 600% increase since the Palestinian Authority took over Gaza.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=95871

Key arrest is revealing of terrorist underworld
Loa'i Mohammad Haj Bakr al-Saqa, wanted by Turkey for 2003 bombings in Istanbul that killed 58 people, is said to have eluded intelligence services by using an array of fake IDs, employing aliases even with his al-Qaida contacts and finally faking his death in Fallujah, Iraq, in late 2004.
The Syrian radical didn't surface until last August, when an accidental explosion forced him to flee his safehouse in the Turkish resort of Antalya, police say. Officers reported finding bomb-making materials meant for an attack on an Israeli cruise ship.
http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/109523

Terrorist with Bangladesh link arrested
http://www.newkerala.com/news.php?action=fullnews&id=77515

Officials clueless about missing explosives
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1355860.cms

Two arrested in Indian tech city with explosives
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/B587718.htm

Five Tons of Explosives Smuggled into Gaza Since Disengagement
http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=95863

Huge haul of explosives on eve of PM visit
http://dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1005332

Gelatine sticks seized
The City Police seized about 45 high explosive gelatine sticks from the cloak room of the Kerala State Road Transport Corporation Depot here today.
http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=208064&cat=India

Attack Was Planned on Dimona Nuclear Facility
http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=95900

China, Russia pledge stronger relations

BEIJING: Chinese President Hu Jintao and Russian President Vladimir Putin pledged to build stronger ties between the two neighbours in the new year, state media reported Monday.

The two leaders exchanged greetings on New Year’s Eve and reiterated plans to further develop bilateral relations by deepening cultural exchanges, the Xinhua news agency said.

Hu told Putin that the Chinese government attaches great importance to the 2006 celebration of the “Year of Russia” and promised to make it a “complete success.” Russia will mark the “Year of China” in 2007.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006%5C01%5C03%5Cstory_3-1-2006_pg4_5





44 posted on 01/02/2006 7:19:22 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (I can't stay on topic!)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Laughing at you, you can do the same.

Call and tell them where to find the truth.

The only KDWN show that I know of that can be listened to,
is the Mark Edwards program, at 10 pm Pacific time. (till 12:00)

The link is at:

http://www.thewakeupamericafoundation.com

He does a good interview program on closing the Mexican Border.


45 posted on 01/02/2006 7:22:25 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Socialist=communist,elected to office,paid with your taxes: http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

This group is scary.

But you scared me, I figured the post was by some that I have heard, who want to go to war with Mexico.

Sounded like a good plan to close the border and then I reached the end and it was someone else entirely.

There is a lot on this group in the Free Republic archives.

My googles did not really do them justice, a few months ago,
I hit google on them and got different results, all scary.

We do not really know what is lurking south of the border in Mexico.


46 posted on 01/02/2006 7:28:48 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Socialist=communist,elected to office,paid with your taxes: http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

To me the reports of the dangers to Israel, are downright
alarming.

Iran is said to supply the money for those arms, they are
loading the terrorists up with them.

One of these days Israel will simply say "Enough!".

I assume, they are buying time, for us to finish cleaning
out Iraq and re-stock, for the next move.

Interesting, Freeper Gunny Bob does a show on:
850 koa.com

You can listen on the computer.

He just said that we do not need a draft.

That we only have 7% of our military in Iraq.

That the war on terror will go on for another 50 years.

Gunny Bob is cleared for a trip to Iraq, this month, as I
recall, he will go, see, get the TRUTH, and even broadcast from there.


47 posted on 01/02/2006 7:41:20 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Socialist=communist,elected to office,paid with your taxes: http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Looking around people are fighting everywhere. I picked up several new news sites tonight.

News alerts weren't coming for the regular news sources?

South of the boarder is scary and to know Putin has been down there SA and Mexico.

Putin says this year 2006 is Russia and next year 2007 is for China.

Maybe it is that sun, moon, earth thingy you were talking about the other day. LOL

And all will clam down soon. I don't know how George Bush stands it, well yes I do, GOD!
48 posted on 01/02/2006 7:51:27 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (I can't stay on topic!)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Thank you for the links DC.


49 posted on 01/02/2006 8:01:51 PM PST by Cindy
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

>>>I hope you don't mind I am using your info. Also Ping to new a thread.

Just as long as you know I don't support the combination of both info.

CERT for Tribal Nations never heard of Dr. Cowie.

I think Dr. Cowie should stick to water colors.


50 posted on 01/02/2006 8:10:13 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
CERT for Tribal Nations never heard of Dr. Cowie.


He probably stole it from somebody real important and I will really be in trouble.

I enjoyed your post on Russia and wanted to pass it around. I have no intentions of combining.
51 posted on 01/02/2006 8:15:53 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (I can't stay on topic!)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Stole what?


52 posted on 01/02/2006 8:17:47 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

DC--Here is the article you were referring to.



JAN. 2 1:53 P.M. ET What kind of neighbor cuts off gas supplies in winter? That question is being asked of Russia after it closed natural gas taps feeding Ukraine, a decision with implications for the rest of Europe.

In language reminiscent of the Cold War, many Europeans castigated Russia on Monday for shutting gas supplies to Ukraine over a price dispute. Russia's critics say the cutoff was Ukraine's punishment for reaching out to the West.

Beneath the criticism lay deeper questions about Russia's role in today's Europe. The shut-off came the same day Russia assumed the leadership of the G-8, after years of seeking a full-fledged place in the elite group of rich nations.

"The novelty of 2006 is Russia's reappearance on the map of world threats," said Italian daily La Stampa. "Only its tool has changed: Instead of nuclear warheads and the international communist movement, today there is the gas tap."
"In the year of the Russian G-8, the West must decide, for the umpteenth time, how to act toward a Russian czar with a claim not anymore on their lives, but on their stoves."

The cutoff threatens shipments throughout Europe because Ukraine acts as a transit country for most of Russia's gas consignment to the continent.

In the wake of the European criticism, Russian officials said late Monday they would resume some gas supplies intended for Europe. And most analysts expect Russia and Ukraine to reach agreement soon.

Still, the crisis is the latest sign that Russia has its own idea of where it fits in the global marketplace and political arena. And that idea doesn't always match the dependable, predictable Russia that Europe dreams of.

"Russia is saying clearly to its partners that it is an energy superpower, saying 'We are actors on the world stage. You should listen to us,'" said Thomas Gomart, an expert at the French Institute of International Relations, a Paris think-tank.

Beyond re-igniting European concerns about energy security, the crisis threatened to revive anti-Russian sentiment that last flared in Europe a year ago, during Ukraine's democratic revolution. Russian President Vladimir Putin has also been worrying Europe by clamping down on foreign non-governmental organizations and with his perceived backsliding on Russian democracy.

"Seeing Russia use this weapon is bound to have a political impact on the image of Russia as a well-behaved neighbor," Philip Hanson, a Russia expert at Birmingham University in England, said of the gas shut-off.

The gas dispute has simmered since the early 1990s, prompting questions of why Russia chose to cut off supplies now -- just months before parliamentary elections in Ukraine.

Moscow "is trying to satisfy its imperial ambitions, paying little attention to the fact that the way it has chosen undermines its reputation as a trade partner," commentator Slawomir Popowski wrote in the Polish daily Rzeczpospolita.

In Poland, the crisis reinforced fears that Russia will play rough to maintain influence over its former satellites. Germany, which depends on Russia for 30 percent of its gas, is also nervous.

"Russia is using unrestrained monopoly power to discipline a politically insubordinate neighbor," said Werner Hoyer, a senior lawmaker for Germany's Free Democratic Party.

"Who can guarantee that Russia won't one day use the gas tap as a way to exert pressure or impose discipline on other countries, such as Germany?"

Russia insists it is only enforcing its commercial rights, demanding that Ukraine pay market price for gas.

European government officials were cautious about casting blame and alienating Putin. But the cutoff has continentwide implications, and European Union energy ministers will meet Wednesday to discuss it.

Amid the criticism, Russia won a bit of indirect support from Pascal Lamy, director of the World Trade Organization: "Whatever the political or legal problems are, in the short term, these countries should pay for their energy at today's energy prices to improve the efficiency of their economies."


53 posted on 01/02/2006 8:27:51 PM PST by Founding Father (The War Against Western Civilization Has Begun)
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GSS: 900% Increase in Terrorist Smuggling in Four Months According to the report, released Monday, there has been a 900% increase in the number of anti-tank missile launchers Arab terrorists have brought into Gaza from Egypt since Israel's unilateral withdrawal in August as compared with the preceding seven months. Approximately 350 anti-tank missiles were brought across the border in the same post-Disengagement period, representing a 600% increase since the Palestinian Authority took over Gaza.

Thanks for the ping DC. I will never understand why we force Israel to give back land, nor will I ever understand why Israel goes ahead and gives land back.

Never appease an enemy!

54 posted on 01/02/2006 8:34:12 PM PST by Founding Father (The War Against Western Civilization Has Begun)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT; Velveeta

Anything important? not for my old computer.
granny

Google Alert for: Shooting at Mall

Police Search for Adelphi Shooting Suspects
WTOP - Washington,D.C.,USA
The shooting occurred around 2 am Monday near the Millennium club, located in a strip
mall in the 1500 block of University Boulevard. ...

http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=25&sid=663042


55 posted on 01/02/2006 9:13:31 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Socialist=communist,elected to office,paid with your taxes: http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

I don't know how George Bush stands it,
well yes I do, GOD!
<<<>>>

That can be the only answer.


56 posted on 01/02/2006 9:17:22 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Socialist=communist,elected to office,paid with your taxes: http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

You have freep mail.


57 posted on 01/02/2006 9:29:38 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Socialist=communist,elected to office,paid with your taxes: http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp)
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To: Founding Father

"Russia is using unrestrained monopoly power to discipline a politically
insubordinate neighbor," said Werner Hoyer, a senior lawmaker for
Germany's Free Democratic Party.

"Who can guarantee that Russia won't one day use the gas tap as a
way to exert pressure or impose discipline on other countries, such as
Germany?"

<<<<>>>>

At least there is someone in Europe who can see what
Russia will do in the future.


58 posted on 01/02/2006 9:36:25 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Socialist=communist,elected to office,paid with your taxes: http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

NO YOU have freep mail;~0

Russia, which took over the G8 chairmanship for the first time this
month



This is another thing how does Putin get to be chairman and they just let him in the summit last year? Had to sneak him in at that.


59 posted on 01/02/2006 9:58:15 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (I can't stay on topic!)
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To: Founding Father
Thanks for the ping DC. I will never understand why we force Israel to give back land, nor will I ever understand why Israel goes ahead and gives land back.



This is the 60 million dollar question. I don't understand this at all next we will have to give back TX, NM, Ca to Mexico.
60 posted on 01/02/2006 10:05:24 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (I can't stay on topic!)
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