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CNN: HARRIET MIERS HAS WITHDRAWN!

Posted on 10/27/2005 5:54:48 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

just breaking!!!!!!!!


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To: GOPologist

Stevens will die before he quits as long as a Republican is President. You sir, will probably live forever.


2,341 posted on 10/27/2005 11:03:51 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: AmishDude; Alamo-Girl; xzins; marron
But if we force the Dems to be there, we have to stay there too. And I'm sure there are at least 6 Republicans whose health would not allow them to stay in the chamber for a few days.

AmishDude, this is high-stakes poker! I just look at it this way: The Constitution does not require a supermajority to confirm judges. All it requires is a straight up-or-down vote decided by a simple majority. The fillibuster is designed to trump this constitutional requirement by means of simple senatorial rule-making. But there is absolutely "no-cost" to the "gentleman's agreement" of a fillibuster that the Dems are prosecuting against the President's judicial and executive nominees. We need to see the cost go up, maybe even to levels that hurt.

If someone were truly grievously ill, the Senate rules could be fashioned to exempt that person if his doctor recommends it. But all healthy people would have to show up. :^)

But I have to wonder: if someone were that grievously ill, what is he/she doing in the Senate?

2,342 posted on 10/27/2005 11:04:01 AM PDT by betty boop (Nature loves to hide. -- Heraclitus)
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To: thoughtomator

Why do Burkean conservatives strike fear in the hearts of Miers supporters?

Oh, I know, because the 'gang colors' are more important than the ideology that was SUPPOSED To form the heart of the Party.


2,343 posted on 10/27/2005 11:04:10 AM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: clawrence3

Don't get all snippy with me about "technically" qualified, you're the one being pedantic.

What is "qualified?" How about a dazzling grasp of constitutional law, for one thing?

I define that as Nino Scalia or John Roberts.


Beyond being qualified, they should also btw be politically conservative (at least conservative enough to be pro-life) and jurisprudentially originalist.


2,344 posted on 10/27/2005 11:04:17 AM PDT by Petronski (The name "cyborg" to me means complete love and incredible fun. I'm filled with joy.)
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To: TAdams8591; Miss Marple

I don't READ Kristol....but I listen to his smarmy "commentary" on Fox....and he has critisized Bush's war quite a bit....He is a McCainiac...

He would LOVE to see Bush's presidency be a failure...I am convinced of it...


2,345 posted on 10/27/2005 11:04:21 AM PDT by Txsleuth (I am the real TXSLEUTH...please freepmail me if you doubt it.)
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To: livius

If you think GWB is iether stupid enough or stubborn enough to nominate gonzales after this experience, then you have a very low opinion of the type of person he is.


2,346 posted on 10/27/2005 11:04:33 AM PDT by flashbunny (What is more important: Loyalty to principles, or loyalty to personalities?)
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To: Mo1
The left is already hammering us for it. We gave them more ammo......

The thing about it is, that if this had been handled civilly, it would have been different. But it's been ruthless, and that is where I have the problem.

The leftist stereotype of the right has turned out to be true in too many cases.

2,347 posted on 10/27/2005 11:04:36 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Take comfort, Friend George, God is with thee!)
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To: fatnotlazy

Oh, you're right. It is such a shame when your own written and spoken words come back to bite you.


2,348 posted on 10/27/2005 11:04:45 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Steve_Stifler
My statement: "They want someone on the court who will not only vote what they consider to be the right way, but who can articulate their arguments in written opinions."

Your statement: "What I want in a nominee is a conservative intellectual force that leads the court (and the legal system) to a more sane understanding of the proper role of the courts in our society."

They mean the same thing.

You went on to say: "As I've said before on other threads, I'd rather have a brilliant jurist who gives me 70% of the votes I want than a mediocrity who votes "correctly" all the time."

Although I have to take your word for your own position, I guarantee you that the first time some brilliant jurist casts one of those 30% votes, the caterwauling from the uber right would be just as loud as it has been these last few weeks.

2,349 posted on 10/27/2005 11:04:52 AM PDT by Wolfstar (The reactionaries' favorite short list are all judges GWB appointed to the appellate bench.)
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To: flashbunny
It had nothing to do with her religion. It had everything to do with her complete lack of qualifications and unknown, possibly liberal ideology.

That is not how the hard working Evangelicals are going to see it. There has not been an Evangelical nominated to SCOTUS since 1930, and we do represent a large percentage of the population. Currently we have 4 Catholics on the court, and that does not go unnoticed. Finally, those who are committed Evangelicals and familiar with the churches of Christ/Christian Churches are going to laugh in your face at the mention of her being pro-choice or liberal.
2,350 posted on 10/27/2005 11:05:12 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Please let it be so.


2,351 posted on 10/27/2005 11:05:59 AM PDT by octobersky
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To: Sister_T
I don't know but now, all I'm hearing is the disappointment from the rabid Left (not here but on Rush's show in soundbites) about how "the far-right wing" of the Republican party destroyed this nominee and when they get upset, that makes me go "Hmm. Now if she was such a strong conservative as the President claimed, why are these guys so upset?"

When the alleged far right attacks weeks before any evidence can possibly be presented, using exactly the same tactics as the left....the left claiming the "far right" destroyed this candidate is simple misdirection.

2,352 posted on 10/27/2005 11:06:02 AM PDT by cake_crumb (They're Not Conservative Enough! Get a Rope so We Can Hang Ourselves!)
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To: fatnotlazy

Actually, her nomination was killed by the poor quality of her own work. As they say, it was in "black and white".


2,353 posted on 10/27/2005 11:06:18 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Stuck on Genius)
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To: JeffAtlanta
Clawrence3 - How about if every person on the loan committee called you privately though and said, we're not giving you the loan so you might as well withdraw the application?

Is that what happened? What really happened is that the person's family and friends convinced them that applying for the loan was a bad idea and should be withdrawn.

Apparently her credit score was lacking.

2,354 posted on 10/27/2005 11:06:27 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Republic of Texas
When the left attacks, they look vicious to those in the middle

Yes they do

And why do you think the Dems sat back and didn't say anything about Meirs ??

It was to make our party look like a bunch of nasty far righters

Which will only turn off the moderate voters

Again .. Our side handled this argument/disagreement poorly

2,355 posted on 10/27/2005 11:06:43 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: dorathexplorer

Just curious, what state are you from? It's not on your about page.


2,356 posted on 10/27/2005 11:06:48 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: AmishDude

I believe Scalia and Thomas are both Fed Society members. At the very least they support it. There is a difference between worshipping at the alter of liberal precedent, on the one hand, and having a penetrating grasp of the founders, the Constitution and the founders' Constitutional debates, on the other. Are you really going to argue that Meirs had the latter?


2,357 posted on 10/27/2005 11:06:53 AM PDT by dinoparty (In the beginning was the Word)
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To: ohioWfan
Correction. It [her religion] was listed as a quality. There's a difference.

It's a difference without a distinction. Her Christianity was used to bolster her fitness for the court.

In any event, her Christianity wasn't mocked - it being used to build up her qualifications was. Her being a good bowler was mocked in the same way. It was totally irrelevant but her handlers tried to use these things to paint her as a nice little grandma with a gun figure.

2,358 posted on 10/27/2005 11:07:03 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: GOPologist; Condor51
"Stevens is 83 and can't last forever." Wasn't Oliver Wendell Holmes still sitting on the Court until he was at least about 97 years old?
2,359 posted on 10/27/2005 11:07:06 AM PDT by caryatid (All good things which exist are the fruits of originality. [John Stuart Mill])
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To: JeffAtlanta

Oh really, last time I checked, Spector, Brownback, and Graham were on the Committee, not friends or family.


2,360 posted on 10/27/2005 11:07:11 AM PDT by clawrence3
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