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SUSAN ESTRICH RESPONDS TO JUANITA BROADDRICK'S OFFER TO SPEAK ABOUT HER RAPE -- "not interested"
email from Susan Estrich | 10-21-05 | Doug from Upland

Posted on 10/21/2005 2:18:09 PM PDT by doug from upland

At 11:37 am this morning, I received an email from USC professor of law, Susan Estrich.

After hearing Estrich discuss her new Hillary book with Sean Hannity on October 11, I was a little upset. Estrich was essentially calling our friend Juanita Broaddrick a liar. She had spoken with her friend Bill Clinton, and, of course, Bill denied that he raped Juanita. That was good enough for Estrich. Bill could lie to his wife, lie to his daughter, lie to his attorney, lie to his secretary, lie to reporters, lie to his cabinet, lie to the court, and lie to the American people while pointing his finger at us, but by some cosmic mystery that is beyond human comprehension, Bill would not lie to her. Okay then. So, Juanita was not telling the truth. She is a liar. Unfortunately, this teacher of law students, this officer of the court, this person who purports to be so fair and open-minded, had not heard the other side of the story. She has never spoken with Juanita. Yet, Juanita is a liar. A known liar and perjurer told her so. Well, something needed to be done about that.

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An initial conversation was held with Ms. Estrich's secretary at USC inquiring about the willingness of Estrich to speak with Juanita if it could be arranged. That was followed up with an email.

Juanita then contacted me through FReepmail with the good news -- she wanted to meet with Susan. She had some things she wanted to tell her. Certainly, Estrich, as a fellow rape survivor, would be interested in speaking with Juanita, right?

Another phone call and email to Estrich's office gave her the good news. Apparently, it was not very good news to Estrich. Here is the email received from her this morning ---



What? She is not interested? A fellow rape survivor wants to speak with her after comments were made on a radio show and Estrich is not interested?

If she were honest, rather than merely being a Bill Clinton sick-o-fant, here is the email she should have sent to me ---

If anyone is interested in taking some action, I would appreciate your help. Until Estrich speaks with Juanita and hears her story, why would any talk show host on our side have the sick-o-fant on the air to sell her book? If you participate on blogs, please spread the word.

We all know why Estrich won't meet with her. She is afraid to hear the truth. If she heard the truth, it would be an incredible moral dilemma. How does a rape survivor side with a rapist against a fellow rape survivor and dare show herself on television ever again?

Just imagine her course of action had the rapist been named Newt Gingrich, Tom DeLay, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, or George W. Bush.

Susan, I once had some respect for you when you and I had good discussions on your Los Angeles weekend radio show. Now, the sight of you and the sound of your voice simply make me ill. You are a phony.

SUSAN ESTRICH CONTACT INFORMATION

Susan Estrich
Robert Kingsley Professor in Law and Professor of Law and Political Science

Phone: (213) 740-7578
E-mail address: sestrich@law.usc.edu


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: broaddrick; clinton; estrich; estrichtherapist; hillary; juanita; rape; sexualpredator; syphiliticdementia; uglierthansin
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To: Yaelle
It means Clinton himself must have told Hillary at least that he attacked or got very rough with Juanita.

Actually I rather doubt that. You may recall the Arkansas State Troopers telling about how paranoid Bill was that Hillary not find out about his sexual shenanigans.

It seems that Hillary has always had her own sources of information when it comes to Bill's risky behavior.

81 posted on 10/21/2005 3:43:57 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: auboy

Being raped in the cause of international socialism is a badge of honor.


82 posted on 10/21/2005 3:46:28 PM PDT by HuronMan
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To: HuronMan

And Bill will gladly furnish the ice.


83 posted on 10/21/2005 3:49:30 PM PDT by auboy ("Don't get stuck on whiny")
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Hillary's greatest fear in the 1992 campaign was that Juanita might come forward.


84 posted on 10/21/2005 3:50:45 PM PDT by doug from upland (David Kendall -- protecting the Clintons one lie at a time)
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To: jslade

I have seen better looking heads on festering sores!!!


87 posted on 10/21/2005 4:03:46 PM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: doug from upland
How does a rape survivor side with a rapist against a fellow rape survivor and dare show herself on television ever again?

It's simple. Estrich's rape was 100% clear, 100% believable. No one doubts that she was raped. She called the police right away.

Broaddrick's allegations, however, came more than 20 years after the alleged occurrence happened. They came only after Pres. Clinton was elected a second time. They came to light only during the Paula Jones lawsuit. The only corroboration is hearsay evidence also more than 20 years old - her friends were allegedly told that it happend within a few days of the event. Broaddrick came forward only after the statute of limitations would have lapsed.

Why would a rape victim like Estrich reject Broaddrick's story? Probably because she finds it incredible, and as a rape victim, she knows very well how much rape allegations depend on the credibility of the victim. She is well aware of how much false allegations of rape make it harder for real victims to press their charges.

88 posted on 10/21/2005 4:04:17 PM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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To: cajun-jack

Come on, that's not helpful. Let's use this to our advantage.


89 posted on 10/21/2005 4:05:52 PM PDT by doug from upland (David Kendall -- protecting the Clintons one lie at a time)
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To: cajun-jack
I know it is really cold and insensitive, but if this skank was raped it had to be by a blind man that mistakenly took 2 viagras instead of his 2 blood pressure pills.

You are a real jerk - making fun of a rape victim.

I can only assume that you are twisted by ideology. Otherwise, you are an evil person with a hatefully misogynistic viewpoint.

90 posted on 10/21/2005 4:08:40 PM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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To: jslade
Somebody must have been really hardup to rape this pig.

Misogynistic bastard.

91 posted on 10/21/2005 4:09:32 PM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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To: jude24

and you are a real ray of sunshine at parties too, I'll bet!!


92 posted on 10/21/2005 4:10:42 PM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: doug from upland
Re: The rape of Juanita....

And God said "Vengeance is mine". My heart goes out to this poor woman, but she will be vindicated in the end.
93 posted on 10/21/2005 4:11:48 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: jude24

You seem to be the only person I have ever heard of who was familiar with Estrich's rape. Could you give details?


94 posted on 10/21/2005 4:12:16 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: doug from upland
Despite the fact that she is a Dem and that she likes Willie, I have always liked and respected Susan. But here I must part with her. She is a rape victim and she should know better. She teaches law, and she should know better. People who have been raped all react differently, etc. Yes, there is a "general" pattern that most follow, but you cannot put anyone who has lived through that in a box. Sometimes I think it is worse to be raped by someone you know than by a stranger. At least you never see the stranger again (except in court), but if it is someone you know, you are often required to continue interacting with the rapist and members of his family. So many things go through a victim's mind. I have heard Susan say she doesn't believe Juanita; but I know in my heart that if she were to meet Juanita face-to-face, she would know Juanita is not lying. Perhaps that is what Susan is afraid of - she doesn't want to have to face the fact that Bill Clinton would do such a thing. Again, a very disappointing reaction from someone who is, in so many ways, so intelligent and reasonable.
95 posted on 10/21/2005 4:15:30 PM PDT by Virginia Queen (Virginia Queen)
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To: yarddog
In my Evidence textbook, there is a unit on the special rules of evidence for eexual assaults. One of the articles an essay by Susan Estrich's detailing her experience.

I do not have access to it right now; otherwise I'd be able to give you a citation. (I'm ahead on the reading for that class, so I left it in my locker at school for the weekend.) All I have is what I rememeber. She called the cops almost immediately, looked at photo arrays almost immediately. Because she was a "nice" girl who was attacked on the street and didn't "do anything wrong" to invite the attack, she was immediately believed. However, as I recall, the rapist was never found.

96 posted on 10/21/2005 4:16:53 PM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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To: doug from upland

Great post Doug. It's never been about rape. These hypocrites care nothing about rape. It's always been about how to promote Socialism and anti Christianity.

BTW - you sounded great on Rush the other day.


97 posted on 10/21/2005 4:19:27 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: doug from upland
Indeed. This must be used against Hillary.

And it should be as Juanita recounts the story of hillary searching her out at a subsequent fund raiser that she attended and thanking her "for all she had done for her husband" - in other words, we appreciate you keeping your mouth shut, and don't think about ever saying anything, or else...

98 posted on 10/21/2005 4:20:38 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: jude24
So basically, all you have is her statement, probably made years after the alleged event with no corroboration by anyone else.
99 posted on 10/21/2005 4:21:01 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog
No. She made a statement immediately.

Broaddrick made one 20 years later - and after repeatedly claiming nothing happend. Only during the impeachment mess did she come to the public fore.

100 posted on 10/21/2005 4:24:16 PM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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