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White House warns holdouts
U.S.News.com ^ | 10/13/05 | Kenneth T. Walsh

Posted on 10/13/2005 5:47:35 PM PDT by baystaterebel

White House officials have a message for conservative Republican senators who have expressed doubt about supporting Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers.

The West Wing types argue that she will turn out to be just as conservative as President Bush says she is, and voting against her would be an embarrassment over the long term. This message is intended for holdouts including Sam Brownback of Kansas, Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, and Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania.

"If Miers is confirmed and she winds up being what the president says she is, Republican senators who voted against her will look quite foolish," says a GOP insider. This could cause a backlash against these legislators from conservative Bush supporters at the grass roots.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
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To: Kryptonite

I don't care about any other subjects when discussing the nomination issue



I agree with you except to show why I don't trust this President blindly.


461 posted on 10/13/2005 10:35:22 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Dude seriously, if you don't quit being so poor I'm gonna start huckin' rocks at ya!)
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To: calex59
You are the most angry man I've seen yet.

It is obvious in my post I'm making a point of the spending which is out of control. If we can't have small government, border control, balanced budget, and good justices then what else is there?

I'm a realist, I know the Dems blow. No one can't stand them more than I. However, if you don't purge your own party when they begin to act like the one's you despise then what good is your party. It is not us conservatives who are doing this. We were promised a Scalia Thomas. We are only demanding what was promised. Even in the best case scenario she is not a Scalia Thomas. Hugh Hewitt himself, my favorite radio guy, admits she is only a B+ nominee. Not even a Renquist. This is BEST case scenario.

It is the President and any Senators that go along that have caused this. We've always been conservative and always will be. It's the President and some of those with him that have strayed from the camp.

462 posted on 10/13/2005 10:41:53 PM PDT by ALWAYSWELDING
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To: Cboldt

When I was a child I came to believe that America was great because it was the marketplace of ideas. That was the #1 reason in my mind then, and I want it to be now.

Kennedy, Clinton, Schumer et. al. regulated the market with a power grab filibuster, and then the Gang of 7 gave them credibility, effectively closing the marketplace to anyone but those who escaped their definition of *extreme*.

If conservatives and the GOP don't get it soon, America will no longer be great.


463 posted on 10/13/2005 10:47:31 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: Kryptonite

Party or principle. Take your pick. It is that simple.


464 posted on 10/13/2005 10:50:26 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: baystaterebel
White House officials have a message

West Wing types argue

says a GOP insider

says the GOP strategist

He says, she says, they say. MSM dribble, creating a non-story out of nothing.
465 posted on 10/13/2005 10:52:04 PM PDT by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: baystaterebel

Let me guess that Bush is going to threaten Conservatives with pork barrel spending, entitlements, open borders, CFR, and cronyism. Bush has jumped the shark.


466 posted on 10/13/2005 10:55:37 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty.)
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To: FreeRep

"Et Tu Brutus" - we will remember.


467 posted on 10/13/2005 10:58:36 PM PDT by Don_Ret_USAF ( OWN A GUN "Better to be judged by Twelve than carried by Six.")
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To: Cboldt

The party can gain only if it defeats the filibuster. It's that simple.


468 posted on 10/13/2005 11:00:56 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Asking that a politician President Bush, and a political party, the Pubbies, honor promises which swept them into office isn't "Lynch Mob" mentality at all.


It is what civilized men have always known was the bare minimum for a political system to function - keeping one's promise.

Do you somehow manage to believe that "Thou shalt not bear false witness" does not apply to President Bush?

What American citizens are aware of and rejecting, is that a "business friendly" justice (as miers has been described) would agree with Kelo, which was a "business friendly" decision, after all.

Americans prefer their judges "Constitution friendly".

As for your:
Since Senators are now elected by the People, unlike the President, that process has gotten a little more politicized. That was a mistake.

I hope it is either a typo or irony. Not knowing which, I have to pass on that line.


469 posted on 10/13/2005 11:01:51 PM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: Kryptonite
The party can gain only if it defeats the filibuster. It's that simple.

The party is telling us it can't fight for that.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1502188/posts

Anyway, I'm happy to know I'm not the only lunatic in the asylum -> Check posts 6 & 7. Very good stuff regarding balance of powers issues we are facing.

People underestimate the gravity of what is unfolding.

470 posted on 10/13/2005 11:08:31 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: af_vet_rr
Mr. Graham (R) Mr.Graham...affirmative

“President Bush has made a solid pick for the Supreme Court.

“Harriet Miers has been in the legal trenches throughout her career and has a tremendous understanding of how the law works in people’s everyday lives. Her legal experience combined with her life experience makes her a solid choice.

“I hope for and anticipate a smooth confirmation process with a significant bipartisan vote in support. In my opinion, there will be no filibuster as she is a mainstream conservative who will be a strict constructionist on the Supreme Court.

471 posted on 10/13/2005 11:11:10 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Republicans should give Miers a fair vote.)
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To: Kryptonite
The fact is that the deal was a power grab by Senators who wanted control over the nomination process, and were not merely content to debate and vote among themselves.

And the president acquiesced. He is weak.

And all of us let it happen.

The people are ignorant of the workings of government, and lazy and decadent. The ruling class has a pretty darn firm grip, and they are not going to let go.

472 posted on 10/13/2005 11:12:21 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: fish hawk

When I was a mere child, walking into my first voting booth I had what was perhaps America's last choice between a clear good and a clear evil on a Presidential ballot.

I refer, of course to the Goldwater/Johnson choice. Being a mere child still in my Liberal stage, I voted for evil.

In the last Presidential election I had a choice of evil and much less evil. So I voted for Bush over Kerry, 'cause Kerry was Skerry! Sorry - I just couldn't resist putting that in.

Alas, what I feared seems to be true. Bush is much less of a Constitutional originalist than many here would like. Kelo made that clear. So did Jr. Bush's "Florida doesn't need any more ED protection" and then the Riviera Beach ED debacle hit the media.

Elder Bush was a clear believer in the "New World Order" as he often said, and President Bush and Governor Bush are no friend to private property rights.

Better to pressure when we can than to simmer after being scewed.

"Trust no man with the Keys to Liberty." Valid in the 18 th century, valid in the 21 st century.


473 posted on 10/13/2005 11:16:22 PM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: Politicalmom

Wow you really sound down and out, kinda like a Democrat. I'm looking up myself and feel that things will work out. Ten years from now you will look back and wonder why you worried so much about life and politics. I'm pretty stoked that Al Gore is not at the helm.


474 posted on 10/13/2005 11:21:00 PM PDT by fish hawk (I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
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To: gogogodzilla
AFvet says, "You am TRAITOR! DIE! DIE! DIE!"

You are a Certified Public Liar.

475 posted on 10/13/2005 11:27:44 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Kryptonite

The party can gain only if it defeats the filibuster




Which they cannot do if they won't even try.


476 posted on 10/13/2005 11:28:31 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Dude seriously, if you don't quit being so poor I'm gonna start huckin' rocks at ya!)
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To: trubluolyguy

But you admit you are not a Republican. That says alot about you and your agenda too.


477 posted on 10/13/2005 11:28:45 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: empirekin768

I'm just sick and tired of people masquerading as conservatives whose only hobby in life is to try to do as much damage to the conservative movement as possible over any slight they can imagine. Every week it's the same tribe of malcontents screaming about another reason they would do this or that. I think these people just like TraitorJeffords.


478 posted on 10/13/2005 11:36:29 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981

But you admit you are not a Republican. That says alot about you and your agenda too




Yep. I am an independant conservative. I don't owe my allegiance to anyone but America. I vote for the person not the Party. Guess what? If the two big choices in '08 are Hillary and Rudy or Hillary and Mclame...I'm going to sit home and watch the fun. A choice between two liberals is no choice at all. And just because one of them has an "R" next to his name doesn't make him any better.


479 posted on 10/13/2005 11:39:29 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Dude seriously, if you don't quit being so poor I'm gonna start huckin' rocks at ya!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

What I find extremely comical about this crew, is that so many of YOU are convinced he's right. Okay folks, you'll probably get your way. This may be the last chance we have to affect the court to this degree for decades, and you guys get your panties in a twist every time someone voices concern. It's not against the grain for honest conservatives to have grave concerns on this issue. I do. I'm not the only one.


480 posted on 10/13/2005 11:44:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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