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Federalist Society Staffers Ready to Lauch 'Coup' on SCOTUS Nominee Harriet Miers
ABC News ^ | 10/13/05 | Mark Halperin

Posted on 10/13/2005 7:25:49 AM PDT by gopwinsin04

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To: justshutupandtakeit

I saw the transcript. Laura Bush is only human, Matt Lauer backed her into a corner with a 'trick question,' IMO.


81 posted on 10/13/2005 9:09:22 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: conservativecorner

You are incorrect as to the statement of fact, and if you were the nominee you would now have to go home and spank yourself (according to the rules of this battle).

The WH has NOT said that everybody who opposes her nomination are elitist or sexist. They have said that SOME of the opposition is based on elitism (wrong law school, for example, and don't try to deny that people didn't make that argument) and sexist (I read stories about her sexual preference ON THIS BOARD, so don't deny that either -- and against her lack of being married, and her "untoward" devotion to the president).

But that is clearly not all of the opposition. Most opposition is based on a probably incorrect fear that Miers will not be a strict constitutionalist justice, that she will not vote with Scalia and Thomas.

Oddly, when Thomas the "lightweight" went on the court, the complaint for years was that we had just given Scalia a second vote. (that was a complaint from the left, we on the right were quite happy to do so).

If Miers turns out to be a lightweight who votes with Scalia all the time, it won't be the worst thing in the world. And after 10 years of it, I imagine a bright lawyer like herself will have picked up enough to be some help to the cause


82 posted on 10/13/2005 9:09:54 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

"Well, sexism is real, it is not some absurd point, and anybody who would answer "NO" to the question of whether some of the opposition to miers is sexist would be lying"

No one I've heard had any objection to Janice Brown or Prescilla Owens, so you are the big fat liar.

The sentence structure in the articles (which is admittedly like reading tea leaves on so vacuous a candidate), bespeaks an overly bright college freshaman, no more. Her answer for inequality in the legal system (Spend more money), is juvenile. If you want to defend a lightweight Bush sychophant for Supreme Court, that is your perogative, but count me out.


83 posted on 10/13/2005 9:10:21 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: gopwinsin04

Good. Do it!


84 posted on 10/13/2005 9:11:26 AM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: XeniaSt
What ever happened to the Reagan 11th commandment : Never speak evil of another Republican !

Sadly, that went by the wayside when the RINOs couldn't keep their mouths shut about every single conservative Republican to come down the pike--from Buchanan to Keyes to Santorum to Schundler. The list is endless. In the end, a RINO will always prefer a Democrat to a conservative Republican.
85 posted on 10/13/2005 9:14:53 AM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gifts parents can give their children are siblings.)
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To: FastCoyote

That people support some women doesn't mean that they aren't using sexist arguments against another woman.

Maybe there are people here who can't make the distinction between "being a sexist" and "making a sexist argument".

When the president says she broke through the glass ceiling, that could be a sexist statement. However, if there was a glass ceiling, her ability to overcome it would give insight into her character. Which way was it used? That's up to the beholder.

Conversely, some say she only advanced in her career because she was a woman, that if she was a man her career would be completely undistinguished. That is sexist in one of two ways -- either the person is saying that her advancement was because she was a woman; or they are saying that she is great for a woman, but men would beat her silly.

That could be a sexist argument, or it could be an accurate way of evaluating her qualifications.

Heck, even saying that we don't need women on the court could be sexist. And not everybody who opposes Miers had JRB on their list, or Owens. Some people complained about women in general being more likely to lean left. Not many, but a few.

How many prominent people arguing based on sexist arguments does it take before saying "some of the arguments are possibly sexist" is considered appropriate? I say we have exceeded that threshold.

But frankly, what is the point? "Bush called us sexist, so we should vote against Miers?" What kind of argument is that?


86 posted on 10/13/2005 9:25:34 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: dirtboy

I detest much of what the anti-Miers pundits have been writing and saying about her, but at least they have enough integrity and courage to put their own names and faces and voices to their opinions. These guys are just cowards.


87 posted on 10/13/2005 9:25:51 AM PDT by RichInOC (Harriet Miers has the kind of legal career that Ann Coulter can only dream of.)
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To: Antoninus
Pat Buchanan in my estimation
is not a republican
nor a conservative
but a self-absorbed blow hard!

Besides that he's probably a fine fellow!

88 posted on 10/13/2005 9:28:29 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Don't get your panties in a bunch Chuck, everyone is entitled to sexest opinions. It was a free country.


89 posted on 10/13/2005 9:32:22 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: Constitution Day
tit for tat

REDIRECT EXAMINATION

BY MS. JULIAN: . . . . .

Q. Ms. Miers, are you a member of any predominantly minority organizations, such as the NAACP, Black Chamber of Commerce, Urban League or any other predominantly minority organizations?

A. Women minorities?

Q. Well, maybe predominantly racial and ethnic minorities?

A. No.

Q. . . . . In your capacity as an at-large member do you think being involved in such organizations might assist you in having a perspective that – bring a perspective to your job that you don’t have?

A. I attend meetings designed to give me that input. However, I have tried to avoid memberships in organization s that were politically charged with one viewpoint or the other. For example, I wouldn’t belong to the Federalist Society any more than – I just feel like it’s better to not be involved in organizations that seem to color your view one way or the other for people who are examining you. I did join the Progressive Voters League here in Dallas during the campaign as part of the campaign.

Q. Are you active in the PVL now, do you intend to be?

A. No, I am not.

Q. Do you think the NAACP and Black Chamber of Commerce are in the category of organizations you were talking about?

A. No, I don’t. . . . .

Transcript of Trial, Roy Williams et al. v. City of Dallas, No. CA-3-88-152-R, pages V-46 to V-47 (U.S. Dist. Ct., N.D. Tex. Sept. 11, 1989).

END

90 posted on 10/13/2005 9:34:27 AM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: gopwinsin04
Looks like the 11th Commandment went out the window after the White House went on the offensive with the Today Show 'possibly sexist' comments.

  1. It was Laura, not an administration official, Laura.
  2. She was responding to a question.
  3. The question asked if there was some sexism "involved" in some of the opposition. Now maybe you think the whole world revolves around you, but there's opposition to Miers from the usual suspects and I don't doubt at all that they oppose her for less-than-noble reasons.
  4. Finally, methinks thou doth protest too much. It certainly wasn't directed at you and your ilk, but perhaps you're finding the shoe fitting much too well.

91 posted on 10/13/2005 9:34:47 AM PDT by AmishDude (If Miers isn't qualified, neither are you and you have no right to complain about any SC decision.)
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To: XeniaSt
Pat Buchanan in my estimation is not a republican nor a conservative.

Right. He just served under Nixon and Reagan, and gave the keynote speech at the 1992 GOP convention.

Don't get me wrong, he's an egomaniac and a blowhard too, but he was destroyed by the RINOs in his own party.
92 posted on 10/13/2005 9:40:09 AM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gifts parents can give their children are siblings.)
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To: FastCoyote

Go ahead, I don't care. Just don't say that Laura Bush is a toady liberal liar for suggesting it might be happening in response to a pushy question from a leftist.

Is that too much to ask?

We all are getting AWFULLY sensitive here for a bunch of conservatives. "Mommy Mommy, she called me a sexist, make her stop, it hurts, it hurts"


93 posted on 10/13/2005 9:47:24 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ContemptofCourt

That is also false. The essence of supporters' views is "We trust the President and will wait for the Hearings rather than jump to wild conclusions and smear the nominee with vicious and unfair attacks."

Why aren't the Antis willing to let the process work as the Founders designed it?


94 posted on 10/13/2005 9:48:26 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Antoninus
XS>Pat Buchanan in my estimation is not a republican nor a conservative.

A>Right. He just served under Nixon and Reagan, and gave the keynote speech at the 1992 GOP convention.

He also ran against GW Bush as the candidate of the political party of H Ross Perot who brought us Billy Clinton twice in the 90s.

95 posted on 10/13/2005 9:48:44 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: gopwinsin04

Of course he did. She dismissed the loaded question with a "perhaps" which is a far cry from the LIES Rush and others have been trying to spread.


96 posted on 10/13/2005 9:51:43 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Oh. Let me see if I can restate in Bufordese what Harriet wrote:
...During the budget process everyone tries to protect their turf and fiedoms in the interest of job security. If you, the budget decision maker intend to make substantial changes, you better come prepared with documentation if you plan to stay within budget.

Given that, there will be a tendency to add to the budget in order to placate all the division managers. Budget busted but everyone's happy...

WOW! She was so much more eloquent than I! I am [yawn] indeed impressed!
97 posted on 10/13/2005 9:52:00 AM PDT by BufordP (Excluding the WOT, I haven't trusted W since he coined the term "compassionate conservative")
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To: gopwinsin04
This might be big. Is Harriet Miers's specialty telling powerful people what they want to hear? Regardless of how she really feels? Here she is on the record and it doesn't fit any of the patterns of her thoughts we've been told to expect.

Every person who backs her acts like he knows she agrees with him personally, with him, and only him. And that's every person. It's unlikely all those people agree with each other. We might be dealing with someone who's high on manipulative skills and short on strong beliefs. Or not, but this needs a look.

98 posted on 10/13/2005 9:59:28 AM PDT by GOPJ (The enemy is never tired, never sated, never content with yesterday's brutality. -- President Bush)
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To: gopwinsin04

Sounds to me that the Federalist insiders have their panties in a wad because one of 'their' members or players didn't get the nod.

Let Bush be Bush.


99 posted on 10/13/2005 10:05:52 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: gopwinsin04
I'm starting to believe Dobson's statement that many people on the list (something like 80%) passed on the nomination before Miers.

Dobson did not say that. Just plain did not. You are either misinformed or a liar.

100 posted on 10/13/2005 10:11:19 AM PDT by rogue yam
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