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I was wrong; so please join me in supporting Harriet Miers.

Posted on 10/09/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

I decided to end my self-imposed exile from posting due to information that I received this past weekend from ‘a little birdie’ in Washington, which I subsequently had confirmed by another ‘insider’ if you can call him that.

You know I won’t tell, so don’t bother asking me for names, links, or further information. I trust these individuals, and have received accurate information from them before and shared it here on Free Republic. Of course, all are free to either accept or reject what I am about to share, but if you know anything about the Dog, I don’t change my mind often, and my only goal is to pass on information that can help support the Conservative agenda.

Issue 1.

Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The reasons for this are numerous, and would be embarrassing to the Conservative movement should one or many of the ‘stars’ who we hoped Bush would select be shot down in Committee, which again, if true, would be a certainty.

More than one of the persons we might have wanted made it clear to the President that they would not accept his nomination if selected. You can draw your own conclusions as to why, but the only hint I will provide is that data mining works too damn well these days. What we saw back when Clarence Thomas was nominated would seem like a walk in the park, compared to what would be done to some of our most popular jurists.

Our Democrat opponents have been quite busy, especially after John Roberts embarrassed them, searching for any information that would allow an open personal attack on a nominee. Sadly, many of the folks we wanted badly would have had their lives destroyed had they attempted confirmation to the bench, and wisely declined. There is no one among us who has not done (or had a family member do) things that we either regret, or would rather keep to ourselves. Because none of us are perfect, it is possible that had one of our choices been selected, we might have lived to regret that day for a very long time.

Issue 2.

Arlen Specter is in my opinion, a traitor to the Conservative movement. He has made it clear to the White House that he is determined to protect his legacy, by NOT supporting any name among those who might make it possible to overturn Rowe V. Wade. What that means, is that had Bush put up someone who might make us proud, Specter reneged on a PROMISE to support Bush’s judicial nominees in return for his, (and especially Rick Santorum’s) support for his re-election. This promise was made when there was strong consideration for removing Specter’s pending chairmanship in favor of John Coryn, or an extension to the term of Orrin Hatch.

The removal of Specter from the Chairmanship would have been disastrous, because he would have remained a committee member, and would have sided with Democrats against the President’s selections out of spite. So, why not simply remove Specter from the committee? That would have been really bad PR, considering Specter’s health issues at the time these decisions were being made.

One could argue that it might have been best to send up nominee after nominee, even if eventually defeated, but remember that O’Conner is only around hoping for a quick confirmation so that she can be with her ill husband. Bush was under the gun to come up with a confirmable candidate, or risk a Supreme Court not running at full strength as important rulings came under review.

I am told that Arlen Specter has gone back on every single promise he made when his chairmanship was still a question, and feels untouchable now that he is ill, because any punitive measures taken against him would be seen as ‘less than compassionate’ by the MSM and Democrats, who admittedly would have a field day, were Specter punished for his duplicity. The sad thing is that after “Scottish Law” or even the “Magic Bullet theory” that some think that anything that Arlen Specter says can be trusted. Sure, he supported Clarence Thomas, but does anyone believe that Specter would still be a Senator if he had not?

Issue 3.

Let’s face it; our Republican Senate is an embarrassment. From the weakness of Frist, to the petulance of the dude who ‘thinks he is leader’ McCain, down to his McCainiac compadre Lindsey (tinker-bell) Graham, to the nut from Mississippi who thinks he can actually get his leadership position back by actively rebelling against the President, we aint looking to good at all.

Our Republican Senate has as members at least 7 Democrats who could have never gotten elected as Democrats, who nonetheless support the Democrat agenda whenever they can get away with it, which unfortunately due to the weakness of Frist, is all too often. I find myself wishing Tom Delay would run for the Senate against Hutchinson, just so we can have someone in the Senate not afraid to break some heads to get things done. Why can’t we have a Republican Lyndon Johnson when we need one?

Because our Republican Senate is so weak, President Bush cannot rely on them for much. He could not have gotten majority support in this current Senate for any judicial nominee that would have made us proud. The usual suspects have made it clear to the President that any nominee who would have put their re-election prospects at risk would vote against that nominee. The bottom line, is that the Republican Senate is made up of too many who want the job, but not the work. The only job they see before them is that of getting re-elected to another six year term.

Luttig, McConnell, JRB, Owen, Alito, or anyone else you want to name, would have been defeated, and probably defeated in committee, in order to save other Senators from having to vote them down on the floor. Of this, I am now convinced. Only two names were considered allowable for Senate confirmation; Miers and Gonzales. When Bush met with Senators, he was reportedly told that these two names were the only ones that stood a chance to be confirmed, but Gonzales would face pointed questions about Abu Gharab, Gitmo, and the administration’s policy on torture. It would have been ugly, but he would have been confirmed against the added damage done by dejected a dejected conservative base, and liberal attacks on the President’s agenda. There would have also had to be a new search for an Attorney General, which would have been just as ugly.

Had Bush put up selections that would have been defeated, the chorus of ‘Lame Duck’ chanting coming out of Washington would have drowned out the President’s agenda. A defeat in the Senate would have also signaled to Congress that they were on their own, and no longer had to back up, support, or even listen to President Bush. They would have been free to play the political-calculation game that the Democrats have been playing for 6 years; avoiding tough votes that would be used against them in a future campaign.

So, what’s the bottom line?

The bottom line is that Bush did his best to give us what we want, in a way that will not hurt the prospects of the Conservative agenda. The primary thing that must be considered, is that the Congress can NEVER be put back in Democrat hands, for that would destroy all progress made up to now. Our day will come, but this aint it. If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

In Miers, Bush has clearly taken what he can get, and our best hope now is for another vacancy on the court before this administration’s term is up. The current makeup of the Congress will just not allow our agenda to be passed at this time without major sacrifices and pragmatic thinking to overcome the inherit weakness of having traitors in our midst.

It appears to me that Harriet Miers is the best CONFIRMABLE candidate for the Supreme Court at this time. This fact is not the fault of the President. Indeed it is OUR fault. It is us who have supported less than the best candidates for the Senate. We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage. We should not be blaming Bush for our own votes. We selected the people that the President must rely upon to move his agenda forward. If they are losers, then he loses too.

Though they literally suck, we are stuck with these people because we must keep the majority to keep our agenda alive. There have been worse moments for us, but none would be worse than than the day we lose the Senate our House majorities. I now believe that although Bush disapointed many of us, that he did the very best he could do without destroying our momentum.

Yes, like Rush Limbaugh said, it was a choice made from weakness.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen. Had they been strong, Bush could have selected anyone we wanted.

Because of what I now know about how and why Harriet Miers was selected, I withdraw my earlier statements against her, my statements suggesting anything less than my strong support of the President, and finally, my self imposed exile from Free Republic.

Pukin Dog is back, so deal with it.


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To: Hattie

And why are we making it more difficult for Bush, anyway? We should be criticizing the RINOS and giving them the hot seat . . .


701 posted on 10/09/2005 8:32:30 PM PDT by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
And the Yankees won 3 – 2. Woohoo!!!

:)

It's amazing they were able to get two games in these past few days. What a deluge.

702 posted on 10/09/2005 8:33:00 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: flashbunny

You are trying to be way too cutsy. If you don't like his posts, go elsewhere. His was an excellent post with much new information.


703 posted on 10/09/2005 8:33:42 PM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: FreeReign

LOL!!! I don't care, I'm happy.


704 posted on 10/09/2005 8:35:27 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Cboldt

I give up. You either have no position or you hide it, and you blame your politicians for being no worse than you. I do blame you for Snowe.


705 posted on 10/09/2005 8:36:11 PM PDT by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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To: Zechariah11

Hey, don't blame me, I'm just an innocent bystander in all of this.


706 posted on 10/09/2005 8:37:18 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: Torie

yes, skeletons. I heard that one of them drove a car into water and left the passenger there to drown. Oh, sorry, that's not one of the possible nominees, that's a member of the committee who would sit in judgment on the nominee.


707 posted on 10/09/2005 8:38:43 PM PDT by freedomdefender
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To: linkinpunk
Oh, you mean Trent Lott, the Republican Senator who voted for Clinton's Ruth Bader Ginsburg appointment but "has questions" about Buch's Harriet Miers choice.

LOL Guess he forgot about that. Either that or he is still mad because they got all those trailers delivered in Mississippi but there were no keys with them.

708 posted on 10/09/2005 8:38:57 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: Victoria Delsoul

What a great game. Now both teams have to fly out to California and play again tomorrow night!


709 posted on 10/09/2005 8:40:41 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: Zechariah11; flashbunny
You are trying to be way too cutsy. If you don't like his posts, go elsewhere. His was an excellent post with much new information.

Oh, PD's post was excellent and informative, to be sure. But FB's question is valid - not just to be directed at PD, but at any number of 'formerly-opused-out' FReepers that have been popping up.

BTW, love the screen name. We're studying that very book right now in Sunday School (it's taken us months to get up to Chapter 11).
710 posted on 10/09/2005 8:41:43 PM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: Pukin Dog
I don't care who you claim to have talked to, because I've learned over the years that the wisdom, insight and forward thinking of people marginally "on the inside" is questionable. I know people who've worked on judicial confirmations I can tell you that they haven't impressed me with either their knowledge of the subject matter or their courage. They all seem to be running scared most of the time.

I frankly don't know whether your *sources* are of the same disappointing ilk or whether your *sources* are in your head. It doesn't matter.

I also disagree with most of your reasons for supporting Miers now. The biggest one is that she is gonna be a huge threat to the abortion industry, much more than Roberts appeared to be when he was nominated. So the whole getting Specter on board because she's not pro-life implication is absurd. SEE ISSUE 2 - [Arlen Specter . . . has made it clear to the White House that he is determined to protect his legacy, by NOT supporting any name among those who might make it possible to overturn Rowe V. Wade.] That's a false implication that Miers won't make overturning the left's pillar of judicial activist accomplishment possible. And it's not Rowe, it's Roe.

I'll acknowledge that I was hot about this nomination when I first heard it, but have since come to realize that Miers is a good pick and that the President deserves to be trusted.

In sum, I don't know why you have chosen to run away, and I disagree with your reasons for supporting Miers, but I'm glad we agree that she ought to be confirmed.

711 posted on 10/09/2005 8:42:28 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: Alberta's Child

Keeping my fingers crossed.


712 posted on 10/09/2005 8:42:36 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: TheHound
I give up. You either have no position or you hide it

Ummm ... you aren't comprehending my writing, or you are seeking my position on a question not asked. Click on my name, then "In Forum" You will find my positions.

you blame your politicians for being no worse than you.

I criticize them for their policies. My criticism stands and falls on its own merit.

I do blame you for Snowe.

Not unreasonable. But you either got Snowe or Pingree.

713 posted on 10/09/2005 8:44:03 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Victoria Delsoul
What a deluge.

LOL!!! I don't care, I'm happy.

You don't care? Is that the rain or the Yankee middle relief? :)

714 posted on 10/09/2005 8:45:48 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Torie

10/09/05 - one day before Brett Favre's 36th birthday.

We agree.


715 posted on 10/09/2005 8:47:09 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: FreeReign
Look at this way... they're still in the game.

We'll see what happens tomorrow - I predict they'll win.

Wanna bet?

716 posted on 10/09/2005 8:50:39 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Soul Seeker
Common Tator can explain the birth of a new Majority Party, the infights, and eventual discipline from those fights better than I can. Specifically, how the Democrats managed to develop strong party discipline as a result of their former battles when they became the Majority.

Well the Dems got rid of a lot of their division in the Senate when those good ol Southern blue-dog conservatives changed to the Republican Party. Led eventually to our increases in the houses. TX was pure Democrat not too far back.

717 posted on 10/09/2005 8:52:14 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: Kryptonite; Pukin Dog
[Arlen Specter . . . has made it clear to the White House that he is determined to protect his legacy, by NOT supporting any name among those who might make it possible to overturn Rowe V. Wade.] That's a false implication that Miers won't make overturning the left's pillar of judicial activist accomplishment possible. And it's not Rowe, it's Roe.

Yes. These unnamed sources of PD's seem to be implying that the president and his nominee will step sideways and out of the way of Specter and his abortionist pals.

His unnamed souces impy a complete surrender.

It's big news -- poor sources.

718 posted on 10/09/2005 8:54:08 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Victoria Delsoul
We'll see what happens tomorrow - I predict they'll win. Wanna bet?

Normally I don't bet against the team that I root for. (What would I win?)

719 posted on 10/09/2005 8:56:09 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Pukin Dog; flashbunny
My guess is that you have determined that wearing tinfoil makes more sense than facing facts by asserting that your insider contacts have advised you that the DNC was set to launch personal attacks on sitting judges. Score so far? You: ridiculous. Facts: Far right wing conservative judges are not passive any more than far left wing judges. Result: No sense going personal; just Bork them.

It is Roe v. Wade by the way, and the right to privacy will never be overturned with or without the help of Arlen Specter, so take it off your lunatic litmus test.

The fact is that President Bush appointed someone he knows and trusts and his paranoia having increased exponentially with all the bad advise he is getting from his 'brainless trust' aside, he went for the least difficult decision and of course he has that right. The Senate can also tell him he should have picked better. It won't.

The screaming from the ultra right is just absurd, so take the same advise you gave 'flashbunny' and just shut up and stop making such a pompous ass of yourself .

Ah, yes; when you finally deflate your ego down to sub testosterone/steroidal wretched excess levels, drop the cutesy French in your tag line. Nothing sillier than a motto in French saying 'without fear or shame'; other than that have a nice day and take a deep breath.

720 posted on 10/09/2005 8:56:46 PM PDT by harrowup (Naturally perfect and humble of course.)
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