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I was wrong; so please join me in supporting Harriet Miers.

Posted on 10/09/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

I decided to end my self-imposed exile from posting due to information that I received this past weekend from ‘a little birdie’ in Washington, which I subsequently had confirmed by another ‘insider’ if you can call him that.

You know I won’t tell, so don’t bother asking me for names, links, or further information. I trust these individuals, and have received accurate information from them before and shared it here on Free Republic. Of course, all are free to either accept or reject what I am about to share, but if you know anything about the Dog, I don’t change my mind often, and my only goal is to pass on information that can help support the Conservative agenda.

Issue 1.

Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The reasons for this are numerous, and would be embarrassing to the Conservative movement should one or many of the ‘stars’ who we hoped Bush would select be shot down in Committee, which again, if true, would be a certainty.

More than one of the persons we might have wanted made it clear to the President that they would not accept his nomination if selected. You can draw your own conclusions as to why, but the only hint I will provide is that data mining works too damn well these days. What we saw back when Clarence Thomas was nominated would seem like a walk in the park, compared to what would be done to some of our most popular jurists.

Our Democrat opponents have been quite busy, especially after John Roberts embarrassed them, searching for any information that would allow an open personal attack on a nominee. Sadly, many of the folks we wanted badly would have had their lives destroyed had they attempted confirmation to the bench, and wisely declined. There is no one among us who has not done (or had a family member do) things that we either regret, or would rather keep to ourselves. Because none of us are perfect, it is possible that had one of our choices been selected, we might have lived to regret that day for a very long time.

Issue 2.

Arlen Specter is in my opinion, a traitor to the Conservative movement. He has made it clear to the White House that he is determined to protect his legacy, by NOT supporting any name among those who might make it possible to overturn Rowe V. Wade. What that means, is that had Bush put up someone who might make us proud, Specter reneged on a PROMISE to support Bush’s judicial nominees in return for his, (and especially Rick Santorum’s) support for his re-election. This promise was made when there was strong consideration for removing Specter’s pending chairmanship in favor of John Coryn, or an extension to the term of Orrin Hatch.

The removal of Specter from the Chairmanship would have been disastrous, because he would have remained a committee member, and would have sided with Democrats against the President’s selections out of spite. So, why not simply remove Specter from the committee? That would have been really bad PR, considering Specter’s health issues at the time these decisions were being made.

One could argue that it might have been best to send up nominee after nominee, even if eventually defeated, but remember that O’Conner is only around hoping for a quick confirmation so that she can be with her ill husband. Bush was under the gun to come up with a confirmable candidate, or risk a Supreme Court not running at full strength as important rulings came under review.

I am told that Arlen Specter has gone back on every single promise he made when his chairmanship was still a question, and feels untouchable now that he is ill, because any punitive measures taken against him would be seen as ‘less than compassionate’ by the MSM and Democrats, who admittedly would have a field day, were Specter punished for his duplicity. The sad thing is that after “Scottish Law” or even the “Magic Bullet theory” that some think that anything that Arlen Specter says can be trusted. Sure, he supported Clarence Thomas, but does anyone believe that Specter would still be a Senator if he had not?

Issue 3.

Let’s face it; our Republican Senate is an embarrassment. From the weakness of Frist, to the petulance of the dude who ‘thinks he is leader’ McCain, down to his McCainiac compadre Lindsey (tinker-bell) Graham, to the nut from Mississippi who thinks he can actually get his leadership position back by actively rebelling against the President, we aint looking to good at all.

Our Republican Senate has as members at least 7 Democrats who could have never gotten elected as Democrats, who nonetheless support the Democrat agenda whenever they can get away with it, which unfortunately due to the weakness of Frist, is all too often. I find myself wishing Tom Delay would run for the Senate against Hutchinson, just so we can have someone in the Senate not afraid to break some heads to get things done. Why can’t we have a Republican Lyndon Johnson when we need one?

Because our Republican Senate is so weak, President Bush cannot rely on them for much. He could not have gotten majority support in this current Senate for any judicial nominee that would have made us proud. The usual suspects have made it clear to the President that any nominee who would have put their re-election prospects at risk would vote against that nominee. The bottom line, is that the Republican Senate is made up of too many who want the job, but not the work. The only job they see before them is that of getting re-elected to another six year term.

Luttig, McConnell, JRB, Owen, Alito, or anyone else you want to name, would have been defeated, and probably defeated in committee, in order to save other Senators from having to vote them down on the floor. Of this, I am now convinced. Only two names were considered allowable for Senate confirmation; Miers and Gonzales. When Bush met with Senators, he was reportedly told that these two names were the only ones that stood a chance to be confirmed, but Gonzales would face pointed questions about Abu Gharab, Gitmo, and the administration’s policy on torture. It would have been ugly, but he would have been confirmed against the added damage done by dejected a dejected conservative base, and liberal attacks on the President’s agenda. There would have also had to be a new search for an Attorney General, which would have been just as ugly.

Had Bush put up selections that would have been defeated, the chorus of ‘Lame Duck’ chanting coming out of Washington would have drowned out the President’s agenda. A defeat in the Senate would have also signaled to Congress that they were on their own, and no longer had to back up, support, or even listen to President Bush. They would have been free to play the political-calculation game that the Democrats have been playing for 6 years; avoiding tough votes that would be used against them in a future campaign.

So, what’s the bottom line?

The bottom line is that Bush did his best to give us what we want, in a way that will not hurt the prospects of the Conservative agenda. The primary thing that must be considered, is that the Congress can NEVER be put back in Democrat hands, for that would destroy all progress made up to now. Our day will come, but this aint it. If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

In Miers, Bush has clearly taken what he can get, and our best hope now is for another vacancy on the court before this administration’s term is up. The current makeup of the Congress will just not allow our agenda to be passed at this time without major sacrifices and pragmatic thinking to overcome the inherit weakness of having traitors in our midst.

It appears to me that Harriet Miers is the best CONFIRMABLE candidate for the Supreme Court at this time. This fact is not the fault of the President. Indeed it is OUR fault. It is us who have supported less than the best candidates for the Senate. We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage. We should not be blaming Bush for our own votes. We selected the people that the President must rely upon to move his agenda forward. If they are losers, then he loses too.

Though they literally suck, we are stuck with these people because we must keep the majority to keep our agenda alive. There have been worse moments for us, but none would be worse than than the day we lose the Senate our House majorities. I now believe that although Bush disapointed many of us, that he did the very best he could do without destroying our momentum.

Yes, like Rush Limbaugh said, it was a choice made from weakness.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen. Had they been strong, Bush could have selected anyone we wanted.

Because of what I now know about how and why Harriet Miers was selected, I withdraw my earlier statements against her, my statements suggesting anything less than my strong support of the President, and finally, my self imposed exile from Free Republic.

Pukin Dog is back, so deal with it.


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To: Principled

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441 posted on 10/09/2005 5:26:03 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right >>>>>>>>>>>>>>)
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To: TheHound

Well, the point being made is we don't have the Senate.

But I'd respond by saying the only reason McCain, Specter and Lindesey have power is because the W.H. won't sustain casulaties to win the war. I'm sure they think they've made the right calculation, but when the U.S. Senate votes to protect terrorists that should be the only red flag they need.

They are going to lose on that front in a year or two by surrendering on this one. They need to fight them here where they are strongest and the constituents will revolt siding with the W.H. on the need for strict constructionists.

Mr. President, Take the play from Delay's book. Show the characters of these Senators to the People they represent. Go on offense.


442 posted on 10/09/2005 5:26:09 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: flashbunny

Its ridiculous.


443 posted on 10/09/2005 5:26:30 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
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To: flashbunny
I guess detecting contradictions isn't some peoples strong suit.

Since I've heard no "mea culpas" from the Specter over Toomey crowd, I have no choice but to agree with you.

444 posted on 10/09/2005 5:26:51 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (you call me a right wing extremist like it's a bad thing.....)
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To: jwalsh07
My participation on the subject thread starts here, and then goes just on, and on, and on.
445 posted on 10/09/2005 5:27:18 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Fishtalk
Anyone running in Pennsylvania that was anti-abortion would never get elected there. Period. Too many liberals in Philly, with the rest of the state Republican voters being basically Republican-Lite.

Uhh...yeah.

Like Rick Santorum. Or the late Bob Casey.

446 posted on 10/09/2005 5:27:38 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Pukin Dog
Thanks for the input. Interesting.

"I am told that Arlen Specter has gone back on every single promise he made when his chairmanship was still a question, "

That should just about cook Santorum's goose plus put a dent in Bush's judgment on the fickleness of relying on people.

447 posted on 10/09/2005 5:28:18 PM PDT by ex-snook (Vote gridlock for the most conservative government)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Now you know why Harris does not have WH support. We need that majority really, really bad. We cant put up candidates that might lose, because if we dont pick those seats now, we may never get another chance.

And you can call me Puke, good buddy.
448 posted on 10/09/2005 5:28:30 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

This is a big, steaming pile. We shouldn't "trust Bush" so much as "trust you" on this pick?


449 posted on 10/09/2005 5:28:31 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: flashbunny
... then we have to support the miers pick.

No you don't, just round up every other neighsayer you can and try to neutralize Dog's attempt at pacification. Maybe the relentless ridicule will force him into semi-exile again.

450 posted on 10/09/2005 5:28:31 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: sinkspur
she does deserve the hearing... God will sort it out.

I pray miers is the real deal and we get the best Justice God wants.

451 posted on 10/09/2005 5:29:35 PM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: Pukin Dog
Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee.

That is an opinion with which I totally disagree. It insinuates that Bush ran scared like a bunny rabbit from the RINOs rather than having the guts to challenge them to put up or shut up in the face of a conservative firestorm the likes of which the scumbag RINOs have never seen. Bush had to know that we had his back, big time. Sorry, no sale on this.

452 posted on 10/09/2005 5:29:35 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: sinkspur
Thanks.
453 posted on 10/09/2005 5:30:21 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: jwalsh07
I know Beldar. He does not "rock." His research is underwhelming, to be kind.
454 posted on 10/09/2005 5:30:32 PM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: Pukin Dog
...We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage. We should not be blaming Bush for our own votes. We selected the people that the President must rely upon to move his agenda forward. If they are losers, then he loses too.

I think Arlen Specter is at least tied for the most worthless senator. If I'm not mistaken, Bush was a major supporter of Specter early in Specter's last reelection effort, even before the Pennsylvania primary.

455 posted on 10/09/2005 5:31:34 PM PDT by stevem
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To: maryz
"I read that Santorum owed Specter for supporting him when he ran. And isn't Santorum going to be running against Casey (who I believe is very popular)?"

Yes, Santorum owed Specter from his first race in '94. Good old Theresa Heinz whose husband held the seat Santorum now has, turned on Santorum (before she married Kerry or became a Democrat although like a lot of PA Republicans she was never any better than a RINO.) Specter came to his rescue.

And yes, Santorum is running against Casey whose FATHER was very popular (and Santorum is running far behind in the polls against the son.) Once Casey has to actually say anything, Santorum will improve his numbers because Casey could never be mistaken for his dad once he opens his mouth, but Santorum is in for a very very tough race and is iffy to retain his seat.

456 posted on 10/09/2005 5:32:26 PM PDT by penowa
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To: Pukin Dog

Thune was voted in, and played politics with Bolton.

Martinez is wobbly on GITMO.

See, this is the point I don't get. It's the same pitch, a couple more and we'll have the majority we need. But when they get in, they turn. they turn because they see how easy it is to play the system, get elected, then stab the President in the back.

They need an incentive to stay onboard, or else increasing the majority is futile. What is the W.H. going to do to keep them on the ranch so that doesn't happen?


457 posted on 10/09/2005 5:32:33 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: Lancey Howard
Not like a scared bunny, but like a pragmatic leader.
458 posted on 10/09/2005 5:33:28 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

sounds like chess...no Chinese checkers


459 posted on 10/09/2005 5:33:54 PM PDT by woofie (Trying hard to become another Buckhead)
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To: Lancey Howard
believe him, he has secret sauces.

sorry, secret 'sources'.
460 posted on 10/09/2005 5:34:17 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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