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I was wrong; so please join me in supporting Harriet Miers.

Posted on 10/09/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

I decided to end my self-imposed exile from posting due to information that I received this past weekend from ‘a little birdie’ in Washington, which I subsequently had confirmed by another ‘insider’ if you can call him that.

You know I won’t tell, so don’t bother asking me for names, links, or further information. I trust these individuals, and have received accurate information from them before and shared it here on Free Republic. Of course, all are free to either accept or reject what I am about to share, but if you know anything about the Dog, I don’t change my mind often, and my only goal is to pass on information that can help support the Conservative agenda.

Issue 1.

Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The reasons for this are numerous, and would be embarrassing to the Conservative movement should one or many of the ‘stars’ who we hoped Bush would select be shot down in Committee, which again, if true, would be a certainty.

More than one of the persons we might have wanted made it clear to the President that they would not accept his nomination if selected. You can draw your own conclusions as to why, but the only hint I will provide is that data mining works too damn well these days. What we saw back when Clarence Thomas was nominated would seem like a walk in the park, compared to what would be done to some of our most popular jurists.

Our Democrat opponents have been quite busy, especially after John Roberts embarrassed them, searching for any information that would allow an open personal attack on a nominee. Sadly, many of the folks we wanted badly would have had their lives destroyed had they attempted confirmation to the bench, and wisely declined. There is no one among us who has not done (or had a family member do) things that we either regret, or would rather keep to ourselves. Because none of us are perfect, it is possible that had one of our choices been selected, we might have lived to regret that day for a very long time.

Issue 2.

Arlen Specter is in my opinion, a traitor to the Conservative movement. He has made it clear to the White House that he is determined to protect his legacy, by NOT supporting any name among those who might make it possible to overturn Rowe V. Wade. What that means, is that had Bush put up someone who might make us proud, Specter reneged on a PROMISE to support Bush’s judicial nominees in return for his, (and especially Rick Santorum’s) support for his re-election. This promise was made when there was strong consideration for removing Specter’s pending chairmanship in favor of John Coryn, or an extension to the term of Orrin Hatch.

The removal of Specter from the Chairmanship would have been disastrous, because he would have remained a committee member, and would have sided with Democrats against the President’s selections out of spite. So, why not simply remove Specter from the committee? That would have been really bad PR, considering Specter’s health issues at the time these decisions were being made.

One could argue that it might have been best to send up nominee after nominee, even if eventually defeated, but remember that O’Conner is only around hoping for a quick confirmation so that she can be with her ill husband. Bush was under the gun to come up with a confirmable candidate, or risk a Supreme Court not running at full strength as important rulings came under review.

I am told that Arlen Specter has gone back on every single promise he made when his chairmanship was still a question, and feels untouchable now that he is ill, because any punitive measures taken against him would be seen as ‘less than compassionate’ by the MSM and Democrats, who admittedly would have a field day, were Specter punished for his duplicity. The sad thing is that after “Scottish Law” or even the “Magic Bullet theory” that some think that anything that Arlen Specter says can be trusted. Sure, he supported Clarence Thomas, but does anyone believe that Specter would still be a Senator if he had not?

Issue 3.

Let’s face it; our Republican Senate is an embarrassment. From the weakness of Frist, to the petulance of the dude who ‘thinks he is leader’ McCain, down to his McCainiac compadre Lindsey (tinker-bell) Graham, to the nut from Mississippi who thinks he can actually get his leadership position back by actively rebelling against the President, we aint looking to good at all.

Our Republican Senate has as members at least 7 Democrats who could have never gotten elected as Democrats, who nonetheless support the Democrat agenda whenever they can get away with it, which unfortunately due to the weakness of Frist, is all too often. I find myself wishing Tom Delay would run for the Senate against Hutchinson, just so we can have someone in the Senate not afraid to break some heads to get things done. Why can’t we have a Republican Lyndon Johnson when we need one?

Because our Republican Senate is so weak, President Bush cannot rely on them for much. He could not have gotten majority support in this current Senate for any judicial nominee that would have made us proud. The usual suspects have made it clear to the President that any nominee who would have put their re-election prospects at risk would vote against that nominee. The bottom line, is that the Republican Senate is made up of too many who want the job, but not the work. The only job they see before them is that of getting re-elected to another six year term.

Luttig, McConnell, JRB, Owen, Alito, or anyone else you want to name, would have been defeated, and probably defeated in committee, in order to save other Senators from having to vote them down on the floor. Of this, I am now convinced. Only two names were considered allowable for Senate confirmation; Miers and Gonzales. When Bush met with Senators, he was reportedly told that these two names were the only ones that stood a chance to be confirmed, but Gonzales would face pointed questions about Abu Gharab, Gitmo, and the administration’s policy on torture. It would have been ugly, but he would have been confirmed against the added damage done by dejected a dejected conservative base, and liberal attacks on the President’s agenda. There would have also had to be a new search for an Attorney General, which would have been just as ugly.

Had Bush put up selections that would have been defeated, the chorus of ‘Lame Duck’ chanting coming out of Washington would have drowned out the President’s agenda. A defeat in the Senate would have also signaled to Congress that they were on their own, and no longer had to back up, support, or even listen to President Bush. They would have been free to play the political-calculation game that the Democrats have been playing for 6 years; avoiding tough votes that would be used against them in a future campaign.

So, what’s the bottom line?

The bottom line is that Bush did his best to give us what we want, in a way that will not hurt the prospects of the Conservative agenda. The primary thing that must be considered, is that the Congress can NEVER be put back in Democrat hands, for that would destroy all progress made up to now. Our day will come, but this aint it. If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

In Miers, Bush has clearly taken what he can get, and our best hope now is for another vacancy on the court before this administration’s term is up. The current makeup of the Congress will just not allow our agenda to be passed at this time without major sacrifices and pragmatic thinking to overcome the inherit weakness of having traitors in our midst.

It appears to me that Harriet Miers is the best CONFIRMABLE candidate for the Supreme Court at this time. This fact is not the fault of the President. Indeed it is OUR fault. It is us who have supported less than the best candidates for the Senate. We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage. We should not be blaming Bush for our own votes. We selected the people that the President must rely upon to move his agenda forward. If they are losers, then he loses too.

Though they literally suck, we are stuck with these people because we must keep the majority to keep our agenda alive. There have been worse moments for us, but none would be worse than than the day we lose the Senate our House majorities. I now believe that although Bush disapointed many of us, that he did the very best he could do without destroying our momentum.

Yes, like Rush Limbaugh said, it was a choice made from weakness.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen. Had they been strong, Bush could have selected anyone we wanted.

Because of what I now know about how and why Harriet Miers was selected, I withdraw my earlier statements against her, my statements suggesting anything less than my strong support of the President, and finally, my self imposed exile from Free Republic.

Pukin Dog is back, so deal with it.


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To: Pukin Dog

I've always supported Miers, I think she'll be great. Thank God, she'll not be another O'Connor.


261 posted on 10/09/2005 4:32:57 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: FreeReign
And BTW, a comment for conservative commentators like Will, Levin, Coulter and Bork: It is the laws of this country that are complicated -- it is the principles of the Constitution that are easy. Not being from a clicky Ivy League school or some Northeast think-tank is not a demerit. It's a positive. And grass root conservatives can easily come to that conclusion minus the elitist conservative talking-heads who risk becoming -- like the elitist Democrat talking heads we have long despised -- OUT OF TOUCH!

AMEN.

262 posted on 10/09/2005 4:32:59 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Pukin Dog

There is an account reinstatement charge to come back.

As penance, you should make a big donation to the Freepathon. Then all will be forgiven. :-)

Give till it hurts!


263 posted on 10/09/2005 4:33:42 PM PDT by RobFromGa (Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran-- what are we waiting for?)
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To: FreeReign
The deal is, Miers wont say much of anything. This was a deal; the best deal Bush could get.
264 posted on 10/09/2005 4:34:04 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Washi

" Gee, where do I sign up?

At the koolaid stand.


265 posted on 10/09/2005 4:34:05 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: Pukin Dog
I have no idea how good your "inside info" is. I don't have any "inside info" so it would be foolish of me to argue with you. The only thing I do know that is not correct in what you wrote is that Arlen Specter is a traitor to the conservative cause. No, he can't be a traitor because he NEVER EVER was conservative in any way or pretended to be. He pretty much despises conservatives and like McCain has no problem saying so. As for Arlen keeping his end of a bargain, once Specter has achieved his ends, the agreement no longer exists. Anyone who makes a deal with Specter and doesn't know that deserves no pity in my book.

I won't be swayed either way by what you have reported here. Will just wait and see and judge accordingly whether we have been had or not.

266 posted on 10/09/2005 4:34:38 PM PDT by penowa
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To: Annie5622; Pukin Dog
#253....LOL, please go read this post...253 :)

Are you Brit?

267 posted on 10/09/2005 4:34:55 PM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: oceanview
You are right about that.
268 posted on 10/09/2005 4:35:01 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
Let’s face it; our Republican Senate is an embarrassment. From the weakness of Frist, to the petulance of the dude who ‘thinks he is leader’ McCain, down to his McCainiac compadre Lindsey (tinker-bell) Graham, to the nut from Mississippi who thinks he can actually get his leadership position back by actively rebelling against the President, we aint looking to good at all.

Better than the swimmer and goofy friends on the other side.

269 posted on 10/09/2005 4:35:14 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: Pukin Dog
It takes courage to admit you were wrong, and I truly hope you were wrong.

I've been trying to keep an open mind on this nomination, mainly because I don't know enough about her, but also, just like the reasons you list, I sadly felt the president didn't have much of a choice.

270 posted on 10/09/2005 4:35:37 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: Principled

not every ones.

Just the ones who attack those who dare think for themselves.

In case you haven't noticed, they are the ones in the minority recently, but like the empty can, they make the most noise.


271 posted on 10/09/2005 4:35:40 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: Pukin Dog
I don't buy any of this.

Surrendering is not what any conservative would do. For the loyalists out there, I guess you all better start questioning whether Bush and many of your favorite Senators are conservative (the answer is most are not).

The GOP and the Bush Admin should be in a position of strength. There was no better time in 50 years to send up a conservative nominee. If anybody in the GOP is "afraid of a fight", then they should go live in France and join the cowards over there.

You can add Bush's support for Arlen Sphincter as yet another MAJOR BLUNDER and incredibly stupid move by Bush. You know, picking a no-name unqualified SCOTUS pick like Miers should not surprise us since Bush thought it was wise to support the Marxist Arlen Sphincter in the 2004 General Election.

I don't like the tone of your whole post. What you are describing is surrender to the RATs. You can only be in a strong position by acting strong. The more the Bush and the Republicans surrender to the RATs and send up weak nominees in the belief that is all they can do, the weaker and weaker the Republicans become.

What a stupid move for Bush to "accept blame for New Orleans" just days before picking a new SCOTUS nominee. Bush was NOT responsible for that mess. By accepting blame for something he was not responsible for, all Bush did was weaken himself further at a crucial time--the picking of a SCOTUS justice.

We did not bust our butts to defeat Kerry and Gore just so we can send up weak SCOTUS picks to the Senate with the excuse "this is the best we could get by". We did not bust our butts to defeat Kerry and Gore just so we could act like we were defeated instead of winning an impressive victory.

These "sources" you claim to have are not worth a damn as a Republican if they believe surrendering to Schumer, Kennedy and Reid and the rest of the RATs is in the best interest of the nation.

Only the French surrender without a fight. Should any Republican believe surrendering to the RATs over a SCOTUS pick is the best course of action, they do not deserve to be serving in public office.
272 posted on 10/09/2005 4:35:43 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Pukin Dog

THANK YOU for your intellectual honesty and courage!

My sources have told me that Owens and Estrada had both indicated that they would not accept the nomination for personal reasons. I was also told that at least three other 1st and 2nd tier candidates had also indicated their unwillingness to endure a contentious (and personally debilitating) confirmation process.

BTW: Spector has indicated that he plans to 'grill' Miers on her pro-life bona fides -- he's quite worried that she'll actually vote to overturn Roe v Wade. [Note: Spector is threatening Dr. Dobson as we speak/write -- he wants to know what assurances the President gave him (Dobson) concerning Miers' pro-life orientation . . . Spector is NOT a Miers supporter!!]


273 posted on 10/09/2005 4:35:52 PM PDT by DrDeb
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To: penowa
No, he can't be a traitor because he NEVER EVER was conservative in any way or pretended to be.

Good point.

274 posted on 10/09/2005 4:36:10 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Guenevere
Brit? Me? No, people like him. (sniff)
275 posted on 10/09/2005 4:37:11 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: flashbunny

Back on the kool aid kick again? Who did you insult this time?


276 posted on 10/09/2005 4:37:13 PM PDT by A.Hun
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To: Pukin Dog

Thanks for the post. Have bookmarked it so I can read it later ( on the way to airport now). Looks informative.


277 posted on 10/09/2005 4:37:21 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Pukin Dog
Sure. But what G said, is that somebody had too much of a history of activism, and some others turned it down. That is different than saying this was the final scene of a Shakespearian tragedy, with all the main players dead on the floor (Luttig, Wilkinson, Garza, O'Connell, Jones, those two obsurce women whose names surfaced late, Clement), and only Harriet Miers left standing to sing the last few measures.
278 posted on 10/09/2005 4:37:23 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Principled

"Pissing matches are for children."

and yet you've tried to start one with me.

Pot, meet kettle. Kettle, meet pot.


279 posted on 10/09/2005 4:37:30 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: Pukin Dog

I was attacked for making the same points a couple of days ago..


280 posted on 10/09/2005 4:37:33 PM PDT by cardinal4 (No more catchy taglines-The Left just plain sucks...)
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