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Bush Bets Court on Untested Aide
Human Events ^

Posted on 10/07/2005 12:02:21 PM PDT by Betaille

They are angry, dismayed and disheartened, but, more importantly, concerned for the fate of the Supreme Court.

The conservative reaction against President Bush’s nomination of untested White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the U.S. Supreme Court was so universal and intense that it erupted at each of the two separate meetings of activist leaders held Wednesday by Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist and Free Congress Foundation Chairman Paul Weyrich.

At the Norquist meeting, conservatives targeted their ire at former Republican National Chairman Ed Gillespie, who is working with the White House on Supreme Court nominations. At the Weyrich meeting, Republican National Chairman Ken Mehlman and Tim Goeglein, White House liaison to the conservative community, found themselves in the crosshairs.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: miers; scotus
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To: aumrl
NO one can say with certainty how anyone is going to change over the years

That is true but he was indeed tested.
He clerked for a Supreme Court Justice who later said Roberts was the best attorney of his generation (Rehnquist); he lead the Appellate division of a 1000 partner, world wide law firm and specialized in Supreme Court law; he tried 39 cases before the age of 48 and won 25 of them; he was the Assistant White House Counsel for 3 years in his twenties.

He was tested and approved of by friend and foe alike well before he was nominated to the District Court, and certainly before he was appointed to the Supreme Court.

21 posted on 10/07/2005 12:31:46 PM PDT by msnimje (If you suspect this post might need a sarcasm tag..... it does!)
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To: reelfoot

"Wasn't Gillespie the waterboy for the administration's open-borders immigration position? I'm starting to not like that guy."

As soon as I heard him accuse conservatives of being "Sexist and Elitist" and then confirm that without apology on Laura Ingraham, I had had enough of him. Oh and guess what the "New Republic" (liberal) magazine is now accusing conservatives of. Sexism and Elitism! So who's dividing the party now?


22 posted on 10/07/2005 12:32:07 PM PDT by Betaille ("And if the stars burn out there's only fire to blame" -Duran Duran)
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To: msnimje
This is not a glowing endorsement, it is the third stage of grief (denial, resentment, bargaining, depression,acceptance)

Sowell's piece is a realistic assessment of the political realities that currently exist.

That's the key word here - REALISTIC. He understands what Bush is facing, wheras the flame throwers want to go to war with a pack of RINOs on their flank that bolted in the last war over the nuclear option.

And, in that environment, a stealth candidate becomes a way to get a conservative on the court. I don't like that reality, but it is reality. And politics is the science of the possible, at the end of the day.

23 posted on 10/07/2005 12:32:47 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: Betaille
The DC media/party circuit culture all by itself is enough to turn some.

The woman works from 5am to 10 pm and goes to church on Sunday. I really don't think she's interested in the DC social circuit.

Gawd, your efforts to discredit Miers become more over-the-top with each post.

24 posted on 10/07/2005 12:34:15 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: workerbee

I think that was the point in nominating someone who isn't already part of the "club". Peer pressure cuts both ways. It always helps to have people who can exert peer pressure in the "right" way.


25 posted on 10/07/2005 12:34:17 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: ChronicMA
...a new Supreme Court justice will not have a new boss.

What do you think they do in Conference when deciding cases? They strut their intellectual feathers trying to convince the other justices that they are wrong. The intellectually weak and overly compassionate ones (read Sandra Day O'Connor) are easily won over.

26 posted on 10/07/2005 12:34:53 PM PDT by msnimje (If you suspect this post might need a sarcasm tag..... it does!)
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To: aumrl
we need 60 votes and there are only 55 so-called Republicans.

And seven of them joined seven Dems once they realized the center could control the process.

27 posted on 10/07/2005 12:35:06 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: dirtboy

I could be wrong but I thought Weyrich said he was never voting Republican again sometime ago.Does this mean he has changed?


28 posted on 10/07/2005 12:35:14 PM PDT by aumrl (I TRUST BUSH)
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To: msnimje

msnimje wrote: "What is really bothering me more and more is the Administration pushing her history with the ABA as her most impressive accomplishments."

I agree. It tells me Bush really doesn't understand conservatism. His selling points aren't winning us over, and they are actually making many of us more worried.

Hey, I think it's great she's a professing Christian. No doubt she's a competent trial lawyer, too. Now tell me how this proves she'll be a strict Constitutionalist.


29 posted on 10/07/2005 12:36:17 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: dirtboy
That's the key word here - REALISTIC

This is the SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES- is "realistic" really what we should be shooting for here?

30 posted on 10/07/2005 12:36:53 PM PDT by msnimje (If you suspect this post might need a sarcasm tag..... it does!)
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To: Betaille

The very fact that BUSH did NOT expect this backlash shows he is out of touch with the conservative base and is more concerned with Reid and Schumer


31 posted on 10/07/2005 12:37:59 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: dirtboy

"The woman works from 5am to 10 pm and goes to church on Sunday."

That's why she should be a Supreme Court Justice? This is beyond belief


32 posted on 10/07/2005 12:39:15 PM PDT by Betaille ("And if the stars burn out there's only fire to blame" -Duran Duran)
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To: ChronicMA

ChronicMA wrote: "Who could she be loyal to except her friends"

That's another reason why the nomination stinks. Even if she remains loyal, do we really want a Bush crony sitting on the Supreme Court? President Bush certainly hasn't done much to prove he's a strict Constitutionalist, has he?


33 posted on 10/07/2005 12:39:42 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: Betaille
They are angry, dismayed and disheartened, but, more importantly, concerned for the fate of the Supreme Court.

Wrong.

34 posted on 10/07/2005 12:40:06 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Betaille
You aint seen nothing yet...

There is a possibility that this woman is going to sail through these hearings relatively untouched by Democrats...and with most of the questions about her qualifications and philosophy left unanswered. I have a theory why...its not important now. I hope Im wrong.

That outcome IMO is going to leave a vague, very uneasy feeling among alot of people...even some who are trying to stay firm with the President on trust or faith.

Its going to put us in a lethargic state for the 2006 elections.

Maybe things will change...maybe she will be challenged on law and shine in these hearings, OR be rejected if she is clearly unqualified....it really is a roll of the dice for the conservative movement....perhaps the republican party also.
35 posted on 10/07/2005 12:40:43 PM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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To: CitizenUSA
Hey, I think it's great she's a professing Christian. No doubt she's a competent trial lawyer, too. Now tell me how this proves she'll be a strict Constitutionalist.

There are only two qualifications to be a strict Constituionalist:

1 - a commitment to rule on only what is clearly written in the Constitution, and

2 - the strength of character to not get tempted to breathe more meaning into the Constutition when your person views may compell you to do such.

Lots of people profess to be Constitutionalists. Miers has said she will be one. But will she have the character to hold to those views at all costs?

Under that test, Scalia failed #2 in Gonzales. Clarence Thomas is the only one who consistently resists temptation that I can see. So screw everything else. I don't care if Miers had half the qualifications she currently holds. I want to see if she shows the strength of character, and humility, to hold her commitment.

36 posted on 10/07/2005 12:41:39 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: dirtboy
He understands what Bush is facing, wheras the flame throwers want to go to war with a pack of RINOs on their flank that bolted in the last war over the nuclear option.

Well then maybe Bush should just tell the RINOs and the democrats that the SCOTUS next to the WOT was the keynote of his 2004 campaign that he intends to keep his word and that he WILL GO TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE via the bully pulpit

That is what a real statesman and leader would do
37 posted on 10/07/2005 12:41:52 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: aumrl

aumrl wrote: "I seem to recall discussions on Roberts on FR."

Yes, you're right. Unfortunately, Roberts is an unknown. We now have two stealth nominations, not just one. Doesn't that bother anyone?


38 posted on 10/07/2005 12:42:16 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: Dat Mon

Remember that the Democrats are under alot of pressure to reject her also. Some Dems are comforted by the fact that conservatives are outraged, but if the Dems let her sail through they are at risk in 2006 also.


39 posted on 10/07/2005 12:42:32 PM PDT by Betaille ("And if the stars burn out there's only fire to blame" -Duran Duran)
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To: CitizenUSA
Bush really doesn't understand conservatism...

It is like a nightmare. I just got off the phone with my brother who is the smartest person I know, a calm and rational person and a Conservative Republican. He said, "George W. Bush is the most liberal Republican President we have ever had."
I suspect he was speaking fiscally since he (my brother) is the CFO of a fortune 500 company but he is also an astute observer of politics.

40 posted on 10/07/2005 12:43:12 PM PDT by msnimje (If you suspect this post might need a sarcasm tag..... it does!)
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