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Bus explodes carrying evacuees (24 dead, Fox News)
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Posted on 09/23/2005 5:08:41 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch

DEATHS: Bus carrying Hurricane Rita evacuees has exploded on Interstate 45 near Dallas...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: burningbus; bus; buses; bushsfault; dallas; evacuees; explosion; hurricanerita; rip; rita
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To: john316

How can you people live and have steady nerves? Right now I'm biting my nails with worry. It appears everyone is stuck in traffic, no place to go and burning buses now. I finding fault with the media for just showing the snaring traffic. We don't need hysteria, panic, doom and gloom. We need cheerleaders. Why not show images of people who made their destination? It will be a moral booster during this difficult time. Can the media be any use except for bad news?


101 posted on 09/23/2005 6:58:44 AM PDT by Milligan (I don't know much about history)
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To: School Bus Driver

I've done work on those types of coaches. They typically use air brakes that require compressed air to release, otherwise they slam shut and lock. I don't believe the coach could move at all if the brakes were set.

To your name... If you drive a conventional school bus you probably have this system. If you drive a short-bus or cutaway you probably have the traditional E-brake found on van chassis.


102 posted on 09/23/2005 6:59:45 AM PDT by Hattori_Hanzo
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To: muskah

Reminds me of Apollo 1--a spark in a pure oxygen environment. The astronauts died in less than a minute.


103 posted on 09/23/2005 7:05:04 AM PDT by ariamne (Why is it ok to show bodies from Katrina, but not from 9/11?)
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To: Milligan
"I finding fault with the media for just showing the snaring traffic."

Her's my cynical take on this: The media do NOT want Texas to look better than Louisiana because Texas is Bush's home state and has a Republican governor. Thus any problems in Texas will be magnified by the media so as to make a more favorable comparison with Louisiana. I could really see this attitude underlying Paula Zahn's approach last night when she interviewed the Texas governor.
104 posted on 09/23/2005 7:08:33 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Milligan
I have to say that even amidst all the bad news, there is great news being reported here, too! Folks in Texas 'cowboy up' when the need arises and they take care of one another!

Turn off your 'SOS/MSM' stations and stream one of the station from Texas onto your computer......I think you'll see a different side of this story!

Streaming Video: (coverage may be intermittent)

KPRC-TV/DT Houston - KPRC-TV/DT Houston - http://mfile.akamai.com/12944/live/reflector:38616.asx
KPLC-TV Lake Charles KPLC Streaming
KHOU-TV/DT Houston: mms://beloint.wm.llnwd.net/beloint_khou
WWLTV NOLA

105 posted on 09/23/2005 7:08:52 AM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: InvisibleChurch
Here is what I heard on KRLD (AM 1080) Dallas/Ft. Worth local radio.

The bus stopped earlier in the trip because of a flat tire. The driver took the bus to a shop and bought and replaced the tire. A shop mechanic also looked at the brake line and said that there was a problem and a potential for a fire caused by the brakes.

It caught fire exactly as the mechanic warned. Oxygen carried on board, aggravated and fueled the fire.

I'll see if I can find a text link, but this is what they were saying on our local radio station around 8:00am or so Central as I was coming into work.
106 posted on 09/23/2005 7:11:03 AM PDT by SpottedBeaver (Allen, TX -- Directly North of Dallas -- I'm down the street from FReeper L,TOWM)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Even as sad as this is, it is even more frustrating to watch because as they were trying to clear this from the road, the miles and miles of traffic of evacuees backed up behind them. From the helicopter view, the southbound lanes on the other side were empty. They have yet to be opened to northbound evacuees. ARGH!


107 posted on 09/23/2005 7:11:19 AM PDT by serpentineshel
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To: Zacs Mom

The media are making a big issue out of the traffic jams, as if you can evacuate 4 million people and not have horrific trtaffic jams. Even ordinary rush hour traffic has traffic jams, and it would be folly to expect this kind of an evacuation not to have huge traffic jams. That's why they started 3 days before the storm.


108 posted on 09/23/2005 7:12:02 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: montag813
>The sad thing is that many of these people probably didn't have to avacuate to be safe. Life can be rough.

Those nursing home folks
on trial for murder will use
this in their court case . . .

(Bad things happen if
you stay, bad thing happen if
you try to get out . . .)

109 posted on 09/23/2005 7:13:38 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Milligan

My husband and I were wondering the same thing. I wish for once they'd show where the people at the head of these lines of traffic are! Where is it that these folks are finally able to go the speed limit? It's killing me sitting here worrying about all these people stuck in traffic. I cannot fathom their frustration at having been there now for OVER 24 hours!!


110 posted on 09/23/2005 7:13:57 AM PDT by serpentineshel
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To: LA Woman3
anyone now the origin of the bus?

Bellaire.

Firefighter on TV saying that they were all elderly and that multiple oxygen tanks were involved.
111 posted on 09/23/2005 7:18:15 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Steve_Seattle

What bothers me is seeing all of those southbound lanes still open and empty after 24 hours. Just like where that bus fire happened. By now, those lanes should be being used. It's been a full day of traffic jams. I understand traffic jams. I went to work in them every day for a very long time.

And I also understand that it was hard for them to predict that a LOT of people didn't have to evacuate (because of mandatory evacs) decided to anyways voluntarily because of their recent memories of Katrina. So that has caused a lot of probably extra traffic.

But, for goodness sake, ALL southbound lanes, need to go north by now.


112 posted on 09/23/2005 7:19:45 AM PDT by serpentineshel
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To: serpentineshel

"I cannot fathom their frustration at having been there now for OVER 24 hours!!"

We went home for Christmas one year from NC to MO. It usually took us 11 hours. Everyone left at the same time trying to get ahead of an ice storm headed our way. We didn't make it! Took us 22 hours to get home with a 2 month old baby in the car. There's something I'm not likely to repeat!

I hope all these people are keeping their spirits up! It's hard to remain positive and kind to each other under such stressful conditions. May God be with them!!!


113 posted on 09/23/2005 7:19:55 AM PDT by samiam1972 (Live simply so that others may simply live!)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
"Sparks"

I would put my money on smokers. You wouldn't get sparks from DOT brakes. You can burn the pads, but they don't spark like those on a train.

114 posted on 09/23/2005 7:20:24 AM PDT by Deguello
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To: serpentineshel
My husband just spent 26 hours bringing his 94 year old aunt to Dallas from Galveston - it was a long, exhausting trip but when they finally arrived they both couldn't say enough about the great treatment they got from folks in towns all along the way and how wonderful all their fellow travelers were!

My husband slept for a bout 15 hours and now is sharing some of his stories but he keeps getting a lump in throat and tearing up with pride, and has to stop for a bit.
115 posted on 09/23/2005 7:22:09 AM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: Steve_Seattle

The media just sucks sometimes!!!


116 posted on 09/23/2005 7:23:37 AM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: InvisibleChurch
This is beyond horrible.

The demented Islamic enemy would the the sick types to heap additional terror into one of the largest storm related American evacuations.

117 posted on 09/23/2005 7:24:37 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: samiam1972

I wouldn't want to repeat that either!

My husband was in Jacksonville during Floyd (before it came up the coast to NC) and he had to evacuate along I-10. It was stop and go all the way to Tallahassee where he went to his sister's house.

He said the people around him actually made it fun. They stopped along the road, got out, talked, made friends, etc..Tried to find ways to pass the time.

Normally he's not a patient guy. I'm glad he a good group of people to hang out with. And gas for his car. I feel so bad for the people in Texas.


118 posted on 09/23/2005 7:24:48 AM PDT by serpentineshel
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To: Steve_Seattle
Her's my cynical take on this: The media do NOT want Texas to look better than Louisiana because Texas is Bush's home state and has a Republican governor.

I strongly disagree with you over why the media is showing the traffic jams.

Why do I disagree with you? Because the traffic jams are the story right now, and yes, they are a story. The hurricane is still almost a day from making landfall.

Everybody here wants to bury their heads in the sand and ask "why is the mean old media showing the traffic jam"? When you have 100s of thousands all the way upto a million cars stuck or crawling along, containing potentially a million plus people trying to evacuate, hey, guess what's, IT'S A NEWS STORY!

Once the storm makes landfall, the traffic jam becomes forgotten and the focus shifts to reporters who are trying out for the "Best Human Wind Sock" award as well as the "I'm going to pretend to show emotion and sympathy towards people I would never associate with, if it weren't for my job" award.

I would rather see 72 hours of crawling traffic than 144 hours of people wading through water in eastern Harris County and around Port Arthur, because they didn't evacuate in time.
119 posted on 09/23/2005 7:27:05 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
"Everybody here wants to bury their heads in the sand and ask "why is the mean old media showing the traffic jam"? When you have 100s of thousands all the way upto a million cars stuck or crawling along, containing potentially a million plus people trying to evacuate, hey, guess what's, IT'S A NEWS STORY!"

What annoys me is not them showing the traffic jams but acting as if you can evacuate 4 million people and NOT have traffic jams.
120 posted on 09/23/2005 7:30:29 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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