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New Orleans: Breach closed in 17th Street Canal levee
Times Picayune ^ | Sept. 4, 2005 7:32 p.m. | joe darby

Posted on 09/04/2005 7:20:44 PM PDT by jonatron

The breach in the 17th Street Canal levee that had put the city of New Orleans underwater was essentially closed early Sunday evening after days of work and the use of "ingenuity to the max," a top U.S. Corps of Engineers general said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nola.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: corpsofengineers; goodnews; howdryiamgoingtobe; katrina; levee; progress; usarmy; whentheleveebreaks; whentheleveesfixed
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To: The Brush

Do you suppose that it depends on the level or the sequence of the response you are hoping for?


81 posted on 09/04/2005 9:02:03 PM PDT by Misschuck
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

If I were to guess, I would say they won't pump water into the lake, but just into the river, where it can be washed out to the ocean and diluted.

I would also say that every pump they can put on this they should. Who cares if most of them do very little, they will be better than nothing. Even a few dozen fire pumpers might help at this point. Heck, even just turning "fountains" on to spray the water into the air will help it evaporate more. Also spraying water onto the fires would both help dampen the fires AND evaporate a lot of water.


82 posted on 09/04/2005 9:04:30 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Prost1
Anything less would be, well, ....

Naginic? Blanconic?

83 posted on 09/04/2005 9:04:35 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Mike Darancette

Why didn't Bush denounce her right there on the camera? And what WAS Blanco's problem, and over what? I suspect she is dodging the press.


84 posted on 09/04/2005 9:08:00 PM PDT by Torie
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To: George Oh Well
The pumps will get about 10% of the water out when they wear out and break down.
I don't think much about this author's evaluation on the reliabilty of NOLA's pumps; the A. B. Wood screw pumps are remarkably simple and have little to 'wear' - we are talking LOW head pressures here, virtually NO seals (perhaps a simple packing gland around the drive shaft) and a REALLY long life - PUMPS from the 1915 appear to STILL be in service ...

In short, this author does not know the specifics of the NOLA 'pumps'.

85 posted on 09/04/2005 9:08:49 PM PDT by _Jim (Listening 28.400 MHz USB most every day now ...)
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To: _Jim
Exact figures upon request.

I hereby submit a request for those figures. And don't be stingy with the diagrams and schematics.

86 posted on 09/04/2005 9:09:35 PM PDT by nunya bidness (Remember, they hated Him first.)
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To: _Jim

The canals get water from the various pumping stations INTO the lake.


87 posted on 09/04/2005 9:10:54 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Howlin

The canal retaining walls are concrete walls that sit on top of the leeve


88 posted on 09/04/2005 9:11:32 PM PDT by Tiger Smack
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To: Howlin

The canal retaining walls are concrete walls that sit on top of the leeve


89 posted on 09/04/2005 9:11:36 PM PDT by Tiger Smack
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To: _Jim

"In short, this author does not know the specifics of the NOLA 'pumps'"

What do you think about his assessment on power costs to pump the city dry?


90 posted on 09/04/2005 9:13:21 PM PDT by George Oh Well
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To: Mike Darancette

I saw Nagin on 60 Minutes tonight; I don't know what Bush said to him on Air Force One, but Nagin had a whole new attitude about Bush.

And Bush let Nagin take his first shower on Air Force One!


91 posted on 09/04/2005 9:13:52 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: George Oh Well
At the energy prices of Maine a decade ago, it would therefore cost $6,969,600,000 to pump the city out.

Sean Penn will be happy to chip in with his little red cup.

92 posted on 09/04/2005 9:14:49 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: CharlesWayneCT
If I were to guess, I would say they won't pump water into the lake, but just into the river,
How will they do that - lay some pipes?

(BTW, you did know that storm water is removed from the city into Pontchtain via the canals? Initally and during light 'sweeping' rains they route the 'foul' water to Bayou Bienvenu, below the city, and thence into Lake Borgne. This prevents the pollution of Lake Pontchartrain with 'garbage'.)

93 posted on 09/04/2005 9:17:48 PM PDT by _Jim (Listening 28.400 MHz USB most every day now ...)
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To: Howlin; Paul C. Jesup

Two ways to incur The Wrath of Howlin:

1. Blame the wrong people for natural disasters.

2. Call a levee a "levee".

More as they come in. :)

-Dan

94 posted on 09/04/2005 9:20:49 PM PDT by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)
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To: Finalapproach29er
She said it ruptured when it was hit by a barge!

The barge was trying to fix a bridge.

That's the second report from an eyewitness - well, technically heresay - but I wonder if anyone has reported this possibility to the authorities.

95 posted on 09/04/2005 9:21:05 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: Flux Capacitor

You forgot Number 3:

Lie.


96 posted on 09/04/2005 9:21:45 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

"Sean Penn will be happy to chip in with his little red cup."

That story is so stupid it's GOT to be true! ; - )


97 posted on 09/04/2005 9:23:24 PM PDT by George Oh Well
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To: The Brush

That's wonderful!


98 posted on 09/04/2005 9:24:11 PM PDT by John Jamieson (Hybrids are a highway around CAFE, that's all they're good for.)
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To: delacoert

My Aunts husband is a chef and cooked all day for the Coast Guard before he split.

He told the C.G., but this may get covered up.


99 posted on 09/04/2005 9:24:41 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Americans need to remember Osama's "strong horse" -"weak horse" analogy. Let's stop acting weak.)
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To: Howlin

----You forgot Number 3: Lie.----

You're a VERY nice person. :)

-Dan

100 posted on 09/04/2005 9:25:11 PM PDT by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)
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