Posted on 08/24/2005 6:51:49 AM PDT by Quick1
Topeka — From Darwin to intelligent design to the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
The debate over teaching evolution in Kansas public schools has caught the attention of a cross-country Internet community of satirists.
In the past few weeks, hundreds of followers of the supreme Flying Spaghetti Monster have swamped state education officials with urgent e-mails.
They argue that since the conservative majority of the State Board of Education has blessed classroom science standards at the behest of intelligent design supporters, which criticize evolution, they want the gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster taught.
“I’m sure you realize how important it is that your students are taught this alternate theory,” writes Bobby Henderson, a Corvallis, Ore., resident whose Web site, www.venganza.org, is part FSM tribute and part job search. Karl Gehring/Journal-World Illustration
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“It is absolutely imperative that they realize that observable evidence is at the discretion of a Flying Spaghetti Monster,” he wrote to the education board.
Henderson did not return a telephone call for comment. He says in his letter that it is disrespectful to teach about the FSM without wearing “full pirate regalia.”
Board member Bill Wagnon, a Democrat, whose district includes Lawrence, said he has received more than 500 e-mails from supporters of FSM.
“Clearly, these are just supreme satirists. What they are doing is pointing out that there is no more sense to intelligent design than there is to a Flying Spaghetti Monster,” Wagnon said.
Intelligent design posits that some aspects of biology are so complex, they point toward an intelligent creator.
ID proponents helped shepherd a report and hearings that have resulted in science standards that criticize evolution and have put Kansas in the middle of international attention on the subject.
John Calvert, of Lake Quivira, the lawyer who was instrumental in writing the science standards that criticize evolution, said he had seen the FSM e-mails, and was not impressed.
“You can only use that misinformation so long,” Calvert said. Calvert said the science standards do not promote intelligent design, but show that evolution has its critics.
Wagnon and the three other board members who support evolution have written Henderson back, saying they appreciated the comic relief but that they were saddened that the science standards were being changed to criticize evolution.
The double post was completely unintentional.
Show that no designer was on earth.
Show the mechanism for change is natural.
Since I don't find much use for ID, that is not my forte.
NS and Evolutionists however have taken much away from the science in biology. We KNOW mergers between species, not just extinctions happen. We cannot tell what a species is. NS asserts speciation. Doesn't that present a problem to you?
I like the hard science biology stuff. It will show mechanically what happens. Bones don't, they were interesting for taxonomy, but the origin stuff was purely mental masturbation at the time of the scopes trial.
Lamark believed extinctions were harder than NS Darwinism.
But I ask you, on the more important question, on the noodle, al dente or soft?
DK
The Hindu account seems more plausible to me....were I looking to switch religions!
WWFSMD?
Hmm. Flying Spaghetti Monster. Mi-go? Yog-Sothoth?
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"ID postulates an intelligence or intelligences - not a specific one"
Von Daaniken of "Chariots of the Gods" fame thought that Earth was "tampered" with by alien intelligences.
At least we know he was willing to say that when it brought in the big bucks.
Here is the link to that most upstart of noodles.
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
The Rotini will satisfy more of your religious hunger. Pay not attention, that way is a distraction.
DK
Thanks for the ping!
Then why, when I post "alternative" creation storyies are they criticized for being "not good enough?" Not detailed, not written down early, not this, not that, etc. Not a one of the CS/IDers has embraced one of these stories as worthy of consideration.
Make no mistake, the CS/IDers have one very specific creation story in mind! And its not the one below:
The Ancient One, known as Unkulunkulu, is the Zulu creator. He came from the reeds (uthlanga, means source) and from them he brought forth the people and the cattle. He created everything that is: mountains,streams, snakes, etc. He taught the Zulu how to hunt, how to make fire, and how to grow food. He is considered to be the First Man and is in everything that he created.
I'm a Zitiist myself, of the Reformed Missouri Synod branch of Zitiism.
Obviously most ID adherents will hope that the designing intelligence is the God that they worship - but ID does not make that assumption.
ID does not even assume that the designing intelligence is God by any definition. For all ID proffers, the designer could now be dead and gone, never to be heard from again.
You're not clever, not funny, not even original...just another follower of the 1960's attack the underpinnings of our law and culture movement.
All I can say, is the great collander will decide which of us is right. I can say I have strayed and found comfort with Ziti, elbow, and yes even macaroni. But the Angel Hair always brings me back to the one True Rotini, glistening with extra virgins and attended by Balsamics. It is a sight to behold.
DK
True. We have too long quarreled with one another over trivial religious points. We never want to go back to the horrors of the Hundred Years Al Dente Wars.
Anyways, ever since the Council of The Olive Garden, religious pasta harmony has reigned.
You know it. Those of us who accept the theory of evolution are only interested in making you smoke dope, dodge the draft, and having your sister have sex with Negro jazz musicians in Harlem.
I don't look to ID to convince me of a truth I already know.
The point is that for ID to be acceptable as an explanation for biological diversity, there must be a mechanism in place (other than the unprovable divine intervention) that explains that diversity.
Again, ID does not postulate divine intervention.
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