Posted on 08/18/2005 1:57:39 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Edited on 08/18/2005 3:43:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Move America Forward will be conducting the “You Don’t Speak for Me, Cindy” caravan beginning next week. It will feature military family members who have loved ones serving in the war against terrorism in Iraq or Afghanistan. The delegation will be led by Deborah Johns of Marine Moms. (Her son has served in Operation Iraqi Freedom).
Main caravan leaves from San Francisco, California on Monday, August 22nd. Other caravans will depart from around the country. If you want to be part of a caravan, email us with your name and location you will depart from and we will include in our caravan coverage so people in your area can depart with you.
Everyone arrives in Crawford, Texas for a giant “We Support Our Troops AND Their Mission” Rally on Saturday, August 27, 2005.
If you have a loved one serving in Iraq or Afghanistan and would like to join the caravan please contact Move America Forward’s Robert Dixon: Robert@MoveAmericaForward.org
Passing it on.. WAY TO GO JIM !!
Passing it on.. WAY TO GO JIM !!
Wouldn't it be wonderful if all who cannot join the caravan would show their support by greeting the caravans with flags and banners?
Sure hope it can be worked out.
Thank you for the welcome!! I have never been "deeply" involved in politics until all of this. I have to say that I never realized how CRAZY some people are out there!
"Wouldn't it be wonderful if all who cannot join the caravan
would show their support by greeting the caravans with flags and banners?
Sure hope it can be worked out.
143 posted on 08/18/2005 12:49:58 PM PDT by JustAmy"
PING for a GREAT IDEA!!!!
How about some 9-11 widows camping outside the Clinton Liebrary demanding some answers from him about OBL?
Excellent plan! I'll stay tuned for L.A. location next Tuesday..
So many confuse Natiuonalism with Patriotism. What I see at this site is blatant, single minded Nationalism. I served during the Vietnam war, I support the rational use of force, I support honesty and integrity, and I support all of our troops. However, support of the troops should not be confused with support for the war in Iraq, or support for the policy that placed us in this war.So, what's a good, patriotic (and, of course, not nationalistic) citizen to do when wanting to support the troops and not the policy or the President?
Dissent is an American treasure. The clash of ideas is of the greatest of America's powers. The proper citizen will peacefully, legally, and honestly seek voice to raise dissent, if dissent needs be done. We shape ourselves, and define ourselves through the exchange, which is ultimately decided by the citizens' vote. It is the duty of the patriotic citizen to know and to balance all sides, all ideas, then make the decision with the ballot. And if you lose the election, you get back to work to win the next. Just because you lost doesn't mean you have to shut up. (Defeat may well offer some good advice...)
But what of dissent during war? The Constitution recognizes that war is different from other functions of the Government. The Constitution gives the Government extraordinary powers when prosecuting war. War, then, demands more of the nation -- and of the citizens. Some citizens are asked to defend. Others help the cause as they may, be it in industry, politics, or what. But even without a special role asked of the citizen, the citizen is expected to obey the law. Just as we must obey other laws, the citizen must obey the law of war.
War is so important we do not give it to one person to decide. Only the people can make the choice, which is why Congress alone has the power to make war. And the decision is so important that special rights of the minority, often reserved to it in protection in special situations (such as affirming treaties or amending the constitution) ar not given to it: a simple majority decides. Such is the obligation of the Government to the citizen.
Once war has been decided, it is the obligation of the citizens to support the law, for a vote to make war by Congress is an act of law. This law does not supersede other laws, but it can -- and it often does. So important is the right to make war and the powers given to it that the Constitution allows for the suppression of other rights -- including the right of dissent in speech and print -- in order to make it.
So you see, the declaration of war carries powers beyond normal making of law. In kind, you, the patriotic (and not nationalistic) citizen, have an extraordinary duty to that law. If you break it, the Constitution allows Congress extraordinary measures to enforce it upon you. That Congress chooses not to use those extraordinary powers is not license for you, the patriotic (and not nationalistic) citizen to oppose and to break the law. Here, too, dissent carries an extraordinary duty. The dissenter must know that in opposing the war he is obstructing the prosecution of that law.
So what's a poor boy to do? Hold you tongue. Vote. And then shut up again.
Once we're done kicking ass, you can go back to whining. Until then you support the troops by supporting the war. It's the law.
[And no, this is a legal war. There is a law passed by Congress and signed by the President that authorized it. It is the law.]
It would be absolutely ridiculous for the President to even give her 5 more minutes out of his busy schedule. And for what, what could he possibly answer that hasn't already been answered the first time he met with her. The problem is the media, they are feasting on this story. Maybe if they just left and didn't give her the satisfaction of being on tv, she would leave! By the way, I don't know if any of you know this, but there is a tv commercial playing in the Waco, Temple, Killeen area ONLY right now. It is Cindy Sheehan stating her ever so redundant views and come to find out, it is being paid for by "BEN" from Ben and Jerry's ice cream. Found this out the other night and thought some of you might like to know.
It is a standard tactic for the left to accuse others of doing what they, themselves, are doing.
Are you going, Jim? Would love to go, but it is the worst time of year for us to be able to get away from the business. Hope you can be there. You know we'll be there in spirit.
HMMMMMMM--have you noticed that we haven't been attacked again. Figure it out, honcho!
This is the problem with us conservatives. We have jobs and responsibilities that we take seriously, that keep us from engaging in the same 24/7 protest tactics of the left.
I have often wondered who funds them...I fear that in many cases it is the rest of us through our taxes.
Yo ...... Mama
I'm hoping to get a few locals to meet somewhere with flags and banners showing our support as the caravan goes through our area. Would you be interested?
Of course, the timing will make a difference.
Just throwing out ideas .... how about meeting at the rest area south of Kingsburg and welcoming the caravan with water, sodas and snacks? Maybe we could get some media attention.
Sounds great! Depending upon when it is, we will be there if at all possible. Keep me informed as the plans evolve.
Does anyone remember Dans bake sale? Rush promoted that and drew hundreds of thousands of people. Maybe Rush and Shawn should be notified and ask them to help us out by promoting this.
Yeah. Before we showed up Iraq was the freaking garden of Eden, linos and lambs and all. Thank God the people in charge are thinking a little farther ahead than you.
By the way - thank you for serving in Vietnam. I detest the way you (at large, and you specifically if it applies) were treated when you came home. May it never be so again. If Windy Cindy's son had come home alive and well, she would be bashing his service in person. She is the type of trash who spits on vets.
we should withdraw as soon as possible. Will there be chaos in Iraq? Sure, but probably no worse than it is now.
You must be getting your news from the MSM. You are believing what THEY, mostly writing from safety behind the wire, want you to; not what our troops, with boots on the ground, are telling us.
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