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Gay Teacher Question for Freepers (Vanity)
None | 8/17/05 | Dr._Joseph_Warren

Posted on 08/17/2005 7:58:48 AM PDT by Dr._Joseph_Warren

Question:

Ignoring all legal issues....

Would you care/object if your children's teacher was openly (not flaming) gay?

Would it make any difference if the gay teacher was male or female?

Would it make any difference if the gay person taught elementary, middle school or high school?


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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren
Since the incidence of child molesting is so outrageously high in those who also practice homosexual behavior, no one who self identifies as 'gay' should be allowed to have any unsupervised contact with children (even their own) and should have at most very limited supervised contact with children.

So I'd say "no way in hell will a faggot of any stripe be teaching my child"

I have a brother who self identifies as 'gay'. He has seen my almost five year old daughter for a grand total of about 8 hours in her entire life. My goal is to keep her total life dose below 50 hours until she graduates high school.

Self identified 'gays' can not be trusted.

And it makes no difference what grade or age of the children. 'Gays' cannot be trusted around children.

The third law of homosexuality:

Any exposure of children to homosexual behavior is child abuse

261 posted on 08/17/2005 9:37:47 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Nathan Zachary
It is impossible to determine if they have pedophile tendencies, and it is impossible to prevent them from advocating their lifestyle. Better to be safe than sorry.

And how is it possible to determine pedophile tendencies among heterosexual teachers?
262 posted on 08/17/2005 9:38:14 AM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: Nathan Zachary
"There are thousands of current lawsuits against the Anglican church."

I would be interested to see the source of this assertion.

"Any occupation in which a potential pedophile could get access and control over a child should carefully screen applicants."

Agreed. However, while not mutually exclusive, homosexuality and pedophilia are unrelated.
263 posted on 08/17/2005 9:40:14 AM PDT by stormer (Get your bachelors, masters, or doctorate now at home in your spare time!)
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To: Phantom Lord
" How many Rabbi's have been convicted of sexual abuse of children in the past 5 years?"

Don't you know how to work google? Am I a research centre?

I don't know, but there are a few I'm sure, and they has been many in the past. Ever see how a Rabbi does a circumcision? They gotta like it...

264 posted on 08/17/2005 9:40:21 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: stockpirate
I am against gay's of any sex teaching children under the age of 25.

Not to change the subject, but 20-24 year olds are not children.

265 posted on 08/17/2005 9:41:15 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; Puppage

Equating being a member of a minority religion with sexual perversion is comparing apples and - well, not oranges, something not edible.


266 posted on 08/17/2005 9:41:32 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren
Would you care/object if your children's teacher was openly (not flaming) gay?

Nope, as long as they stuck to the subject they were hired to teach.

Would it make any difference if the gay teacher was male or female?

No

Would it make any difference if the gay person taught elementary, middle school or high school?

No, again as long as there wasn't any discussion of their sexuality.

267 posted on 08/17/2005 9:41:39 AM PDT by mupcat
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To: HamiltonJay

You are exactly right. Too many people think that the homosexual lifestyle is like TV's Will and Grace. It ain't. The lifestyle is a huge public health issue responsible for more than 90% of the AIDS cases (current number with HIV now exceeding 1 million) costing the taxpayers billions in research bucks and support for an easily preventable problem. Were you aware that more money has been spent on AIDS then on cancer, heart disease, and Alzheimers during the last decade? Venereal disease is rampant in this sub-population, estimated at 1-3%, with a disproportionate share of taxpayer dollars paying the cost. Let me also make the point that homosexuals with AIDS are breeding grounds for antibiotic-resistant bacteria, including TB, Staph, and Strep. You don't hear about this in the MSM, but the scientific journals contain countless articles. Do we really want to follow the African road?

I would not want these people teaching children any more than I would want a teacher that had sex with animals, siblings, parents, or the dead. I remain unconvinced in the face of the all the hollywood promotion that it is a "normal" alternative lifestyle. Look what the pederasts have done to the catholic church with some raping more than a hundred young boys. There is a reason the Boy Scouts don't want the fox in the chicken house.


268 posted on 08/17/2005 9:41:47 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Conservatism: doing what is right instead of what is easy)
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren
I used to think I wouldn't object if there were no talk about the lifestyle, but my job has me often meeting/working with gay men (florists). I have since discovered that only one of them has never openly talked about his lifestyle/sex partners while the rest talk about them incessantly. The one who didn't only responded to a question about being gay, and admitted he was molested by a priest when he was a kid and is certain that's what "turned" him. Honest truth, there.

The others are obsessed with what they do at night. One guy always has young guys around (one kid was 18, another 20 and yes, they're his boyfriends) and he's in his late forties. To hear an 18 year old say when referring to one of the older guy's boyfriend's confusion (the 20 year old was distancing himself and saying he had a girlfriend, e.g. he was confused and being preyed upon) "He's strange. I mean, once you have sex with a man, you're gay" was awful! This young kid, who couldn't even buy a beer was constantly talking about "gay this or gay that" and referring to the last time he took a crap (seriously), seemingly obsessed with what went you know where (sorry to be graphic).

So, going by the behavior of the gay men I've worked with, I think it's incredibly unlikely that there wouldn't be any talk about his lifestyle, even though there would be minors around. In fact, it's possible, dare I say likely, that a confused kid might look to him for guidance and while he might not necessary be involved in any sort of way with the kid, his advice would not be "Wait. Don't act on your confused feelings", but "Join the Gay-Lesbian-Bisexual-Student-Association. They have meetings at 4:30".

269 posted on 08/17/2005 9:42:27 AM PDT by Squeako (ACLU: "Only Christians, Boy Scouts and War Memorials are too vile to defend.")
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To: El Cid

I don't think you can compare activities that are immoral but not illegal with those that are both immoral AND illegal.

But I think the real issue is what does it mean to be "openly" gay? Teachers should not be discussing their personal sex lives with students.

Do we want teachers who are openly heterosexual--who come in telling kids about the hot date they went on Friday night, or tips on how to pick up chicks, or sob stories about fights with her husband or boyfriend?


270 posted on 08/17/2005 9:43:05 AM PDT by libsl (I'm just sayin'....)
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren

I will answer with a question of my own. Why is this an issue with you at all? What part of the educational process involves a teachers sexuality? Would would the gay communities and the libs response be if a teacher let it be known he was a heterosexual. Suppose he/she made a point of saying they were NOT gay?


271 posted on 08/17/2005 9:43:48 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: stormer
" I would be interested to see the source of this assertion."

There's a class action suit in St. Johns, 100's of people in that one alone. There are class action suits all across the northern states and Canada by Aborigionals. St Johns boys school. That's just a few.

seek and you shall find.

272 posted on 08/17/2005 9:44:25 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Eagles Talon IV
Suppose he/she made a point of saying they were NOT gay?

I had a teacher like that in high school. There were rumors circulating and he came out and denied them openly.

273 posted on 08/17/2005 9:46:41 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
" And how is it possible to determine pedophile tendencies among heterosexual teachers?"

It isn't, but statistically, who is more likely to have them?

274 posted on 08/17/2005 9:47:55 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
Don't you know how to work google?

Upon your suggestion I googled "Rabbi convicted" and got 237 hits. I expanded it to "rabbi convicted of sexually" and I got 4 hits.

I then googled "priest convicted" and 7,590 hits. Expanded it to "priest convicted of sexually" and got 287 hits with an option to repeat the search with omitted results included.

There appears to be no problem with Rabbi's preying on young children.

275 posted on 08/17/2005 9:50:43 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren
The fact that a homosexual pervert has the 'right' in this country to model himself or herself as normal while in direct contact with my child ... in a position of authority over my child ... makes me want to commit murder!

This is one of the greatest undeniable proofs that we are a debauched nation that does not deserve to continue as such in the eyes of God.

Homosexuality is a psychological aberration brought about by poor child rearing. The homosexual male almost always has failed to bond with his father who is usually a cold unloving male while at the same time improperly bonding with the mother. This condition can be treated and cured.

Any human being who considers himself irreversibly afflicted with this illness should consider himself at the very least ... asexual and refrain from sexual contact with other human beings.

That our society now condones this sick, unhealthy and dangerous perversion can only further erode and damage society and western civilization.

The instance of homosexuality is dramatically increasing. This proves it is a psychological aberration and a conditioned response. If a person considers himself 'gay' he is willfully surrendering to sickness. It is no different than surrendering to a drug addiction or a proclivity for pedophilia.
276 posted on 08/17/2005 9:55:00 AM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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To: Phantom Lord
I googled pedophile rabbi and got 482 hits.

So it appears there is.

Including this one:

Boca rabbi faces maximum of 8 years in prison for molesting boys

FORT LAUDERDALE · A once-popular Boca Raton rabbi now faces no more than eight years in prison after federal prosecutors on Thursday backed away from seeking the harshest possible prison sentence for sex crimes involving children.

The surprising move came in the opening minutes of Rabbi Jerrold Levy's sentencing hearing and only a couple of weeks after prosecutors filed court documents portraying him as a cunning pedophile who targeted vulnerable boys.

If U.S. District Judge William Dimitrouleas chose to follow prosecutors' initial request, Levy, 59, could have faced up to 60 years in prison.

But prosecutors instead asked the judge to sentence Levy within standard federal sentencing guidelines for the crime: between 61/2 and eight years. Assistant U.S. Attorney Bruce Reinhart declined to discuss what prompted Thursday's reversal, but said the reasons will become clear after Levy's sentencing hearing resumes next Friday.

277 posted on 08/17/2005 9:56:59 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Speaking from personal experience, there were several pedophile teachers in my high school; all of them heterosexual. There were several homosexual teachers; none of them were pedophiles. Now, I know that's hardly an academic study, but I'd really like to see concrete evidence that confirms this myth that more homosexuals are pedophiles.

Also, it strikes me that homosexual teachers, even if they WERE pedophiles, would already be in constant fear of backlash from the community for the simple fact of being gay, and would be less likely to try anything.


278 posted on 08/17/2005 9:58:34 AM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: Phantom Lord

Or since Rabbis are generally married, not so many single men are Rabbis. Homosexuals infiltrated the priesthood quite some time ago and even made it difficult for normal men to enter seminaries.

I don't understand your comment "There appears to be no problem with Rabbi's preying on young children."

If homosexuals had become Rabbis the way they became priests it would be a different situation.


279 posted on 08/17/2005 10:00:20 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren
By "gay" do you mean homosexual?

Then the answer is "No."

I would not want anyone who is perverse, unnatural, self-loathing, despicable, and abominable anywhere near a child of mine.

280 posted on 08/17/2005 10:03:43 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Be a glowworm. A glowworm's never glum. How can you be grumpy when the sun shines out your bum?)
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