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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 11
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| 7/29/05
Posted on 07/29/2005 7:28:13 AM PDT by TexKat
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Natalee Holloway is shown in this undated family photo. (AP Photo/family photo)
TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; carloscharlies; deepak; disappear; everyoneschild; greta; joran; kalpoes; keystonekops; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; richwhitepretty; satish; sybil; twitty; womensissue
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To: theophilusscribe
Gee . . . Jossy was saying on Geraldo that they found a couple of casino chips, some pizza boxes, a 1974 Mercury Marquis Brougham, and an old guy named Jimmy in Joran's shoes. Not sure about his sources, though. Was this on SM?
1,781
posted on
08/01/2005 6:21:40 PM PDT
by
TexKat
(Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
To: maggief
We still have AT LEAST one more One more what?
To: TexKat
1,783
posted on
08/01/2005 6:23:53 PM PDT
by
truthluva
("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
To: truthluva
FOXNEWS ALERT:
Breaking news: We've just discovered who absconded with Joran's shoe:
![](http://www.armchairempire.com/images/action-figures/son-of-frankenstein.jpg)
He will be on Geraldo to explain how he really wanted the blue shirt . . .
. . . and his hopes to run as the Democratic presidential candidate in 2008!
To: TexKat
Sorry, forgot to provide a link . . . LOL! :o)
To: Malichi; WestCoastGal; Pepper777; truthluva; monkeywrench
Agreed. It's almost ludicrous. Every single person there, and in particular the Arawaks, knows just exactly (or has a pretty good idea) what is going on there.
Aside from making money extraneously from the evil (dealers in cards and drugs,) they have their lives at stake.
I wish just one had boarded that plane home with Beth and that one would come forward. If the tourist industry is going down in flames there, why not secure yourself and sing your little lungs out? Is it $100,000 or $200,000? Either way, it's a lotta 'wampum.'
1,786
posted on
08/01/2005 6:27:02 PM PDT
by
Froufrou
(Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
To: Andy'smom; ruoflaw; KylaStarr; Jaded; cyborg; kcvl; TAquinas; maggief; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
Arlene: JVDS does not have any clout on the island. Has no control of ALE.
T.J. Ward disagreed with Arlene somewhat. Ward brings up the friendship between PVDS and JVDS.
Candiotti states that ALE states that they did handle the investigation the right way. But they failed to address their actions and/or their inactions at onset of the investigation.
Arlene responding to a callers question states that the US cannot get involved in getting a search warrant for the search of PVDS property.
Dr. Lee states that this is a cold case now. Some evidence is needed.
1,787
posted on
08/01/2005 6:28:46 PM PDT
by
TexKat
(Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
To: maggief
To: truthluva
1,789
posted on
08/01/2005 6:30:23 PM PDT
by
TexKat
(Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
To: theophilusscribe
Stop it, I'm in pain. LOL.
1,790
posted on
08/01/2005 6:33:28 PM PDT
by
MAWG
(Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)
To: TexKat
ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER, ARUBAN ATTORNEY:
Well, first of all, Arubas reputation is on the line here. Aruba has absolutely nothing to gain by covering up anything (yes, they do. TOURIST DOLLARS!). So, I am sure that its not happening.SHE IS A LIAR! She can't be "sure" about anything that is happening in Aruba unless she saw it.
1,791
posted on
08/01/2005 6:33:45 PM PDT
by
kcvl
To: TexKat
Dave Holloway: Beth will be returning tomorrow Paul Reynolds: They are pursuing a search warrant for VDS's property. The intensity of the investigation is increasing. They still hold out hope. T.J. Ward: talking about using his layered voice analysis equipment on the witnesses TJ just never misses a chance to talk about this, has he ever solved a case with it? I did note he now has an associate, a former FBI agent (or was that someone associated with the FBI for 31 years?) Dr. Lee: Discussing the plastic bags that body was reported to be placed or wrapped in. I'm sorry, I'm just not a fan of Dr Wheee, a hired gun is a sad thing. Arlene: Joran's attorney will be able to be available tomorrow during interrogation. This I am looking forward to, fool that I am. The behavioral interviews...no matter how hard PVDS tried, he can't cover his son's innate attitude, etc.
There is that tape of Joran, handcuffed common around from the left front of the car, sort of tapping the right front fender, opening the car door, then closing it without getting in. Watch his body and face: although this 17 year old "boy" is suspected in the disappearance of a girl, possibly her murder, he hasn't a care. It's not even that he's not worried, there's something more about his attitude that catches me each time that tape is played.
Prosecution has to come up with some more solid evidence. No Chit.Might proper search warrants help? Might keeping suspects separated at first have helped?
1,792
posted on
08/01/2005 6:36:01 PM PDT
by
Rusty Roberts
(Aruba has a bad case of the VDS)
Dave Holloway and Paul Reynolds on Hannity & Colmes . . .
To: theophilusscribe
1,794
posted on
08/01/2005 6:43:26 PM PDT
by
maggief
(No 'luffs')
To: stopem
I saw only part of Bill O'Reilly's show, but I believe he said Greta will be heading back to Aruba tomorrow. Beth apparently plans to return in a day or two. Greta said the trip home energized Beth, and Bill said Beth sure helps to keep the investigation going.
To: TexKat
You do know I was joking?
1,796
posted on
08/01/2005 6:46:35 PM PDT
by
truthluva
("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
To: theophilusscribe
1,797
posted on
08/01/2005 6:46:41 PM PDT
by
TexKat
(Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
To: truthluva
You do know I was joking? Lol, no I did not. You see my last post is from Riehl World. However after going there I started reading something else and forgot why I was there.
You got me!!
1,798
posted on
08/01/2005 6:49:13 PM PDT
by
TexKat
(Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
To: maggief
To: theophilusscribe
1,800
posted on
08/01/2005 6:54:15 PM PDT
by
truthluva
("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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