Over There Movie Making Me Furious

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[girlangler]

I am so MAD, watching this piece of garbage on TV. Where can I write to the executives of this channel?

They are trying to make another Viet Nam out of this, and make our troops look like idiots.

God, I'm angry!!!!

[speed_addiction]

I do have a question a guy with your experience can answer. When I watched the show I was surprised about the lack of clarity in the orders the squad leader gave to his troops and in his radio procedure with his platoon leader. The sqaud leader seemed to exert no real control over the squad beyond telling them they'd screw up and get killed. The scene did not compare with the depiction of the Rangers in Blackhawk Down, who while excited and under fire never lost control and kept their commands and directions on point.

I noticed that also. As a squad leader I usually kept a fire lit under my men's asses at all times when in the field or training. They knew me well enough that I could keep my orders short and brief. In the show though, this could be because the Sergeant had just gotten these guys. I was surprised that the commanders on the radio were not allowing the Sergeant who was in the middle of it all more input into what was to be done.

My first taste of any hostilities was jumping into Panama. We were scared and excited, but our NCOs never lost control of the men. Keeping discipline through example and sometimes just shear force of will.


With Howard Dean the dems have formally graduated from "disarray" to "debacle", with "irretrievable disaster" just around the corner.

[Bringbackthedraft]

Turned it on, commented to the wife: "This is like "Tour of Duty" updated to the Iraq War". Saw troops advancing in close frontal assault formation, turned it off. That was enough for me.

[xsrdx]

Then the jihadis open up and the guys can't fire back because they don't have approval.

Don't need it. First line in EVERY ROE brief is that you ALWAYS have the right to defend yourself.

There are certainly limits to the amount of force that can be applied in the practical application, but for the most part if you're enaged you can return fire with any direct fire weapon available.

[cwb]

I didn't tune into the movie until about 10:16...but just as I did, the first clips were the soldiers explaining why they joined. One was too stupid to do anything else; one was too poor unless he got full-ride scholarship and the other didn't make the cut on his Church choir. In other words, it was just as you said. So predictable...and so sad.

[cwb]

"One of them just called American troops "TRAINED SAVAGES." That does it for me. I have sent my note to FOX."

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Yeah...and he was an American soldier.

Quote: "Someone said tragedy was the inevitable working out of things. And the tragedy here is we're savages. We're thrilled to kill each other. We're monsters. And war is what unmasks us. But there's a kind of honor in it too. I guess if I'm a monster, it's my privilege to be one."
This is were Hollywwod tries to be too cute. As was mentioned in another review, "It seems hard to believe that "honorable monster" is how most of those deployed in Iraq would prefer to describe themselves. I certainly can't recall any interview in which an American soldier espoused similar amoral feelings. If Bochco's Iraqi conflict is populated with young recruits that "are not fighting for an ideal," as he told the New York Times, then his is indeed a fictional war."

[bgnn32]

Didn't the vietnam protest teach these idiots anything the more the media parades around supposed mass anti-war movements the harder the troops get hit because the terrorists think they are winning. pathetic and this coming from Fox even worse.

[reagan_fanatic]

Lol - thanks for the laugh!

[SFC Chromey]

IT WAS PURE CR@P! Every second was a complete fraud. As one person said about the only thing done correctly were the uniforms. Not even the weapons were correct.

Female PFC called 'maam'. Not in MY ARMY!

This is just the small stuff. I have 3 pages of notes I wrote as I watched. It is HORRIBLE.

[jla]

You're angry because you care, and you care because you respect our armed forces and love America.
There will always be a percentage of our population that is gullible enough to swallow Hollywood's propaganda (excuse the pun, girlangler), hook, line and sinker. Nothing you or I can do about them. Just keep on telling the truth and living right.

[speed_addiction]

Turned it on, commented to the wife: "This is like "Tour of Duty" updated to the Iraq War". Saw troops advancing in close frontal assault formation, turned it off. That was enough for me.

I always thought the first two seasons of "Tour of Duty" were very well done. They also recieved some complaints about the interval between the soldiers was always dangerously small, they producers explained that they could not place the actors at 5 meter intervals because you could not get them in a camera shot that way. Somethings, because of the technical aspect of filming have to be Hollywooded. br>

With Howard Dean the dems have formally graduated from "disarray" to "debacle", with "irretrievable disaster" just around the corner.

[xkaydet65]

THANX.

[mcg1969]

Well look, some of us just don't watch much TV so it's hard to fill in the blanks. The successive posts have helped to do so.

[commonasdirt]

Watched it. What a piece of CRAP. Craftily done but the message was made clear. If you love the army or the job you are doing there something is wrong with you. The producers should be ashamed of this show......but of course they will not be.

[Eagle Eye]

Most of Gardens of Stone was pretty good, too.

[Eagle Eye]

I think they failed to do their research.

I also think that they didn't care enough to make the effort to learn about the military and the people in it.

It was also trite and very poorly written.

But I'll watch another episode to see if they get any better.

[who knows what evil?]

But this kind of propaganda bullshit on this show will influence a lot of people who are too shallow to think.

Unfortunately; television has had this effect on our population for years. Where do you think Democrats come from? :-)

[Eagle Eye]

The squad leader was a substitute. Remember that he was short and got involuntarily extended on the last day (yeah, right) after he'd been there for a year.

That's why he wasn't motivated beyond self preservation and didn't know the troops.

[stylin19a]

Thank You....that's meaningful and dovetails in with some vets on another site that are concerned that there were no military advisers in the credit.

[Pharmboy]

Puntuation ain't her strong suit...