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Despite Scopes, Evolution Still on Trial
AP ^ | 7/9/05 | Bill Poovey

Posted on 07/09/2005 12:18:19 PM PDT by Crackingham

Jim Sullivan stood outside the Rhea County Courthouse and recalled the carnival-like atmosphere during the Scopes Monkey Trial in 1925, when the teaching of evolution was put on trial.

"They had fights on all these corners and people all over the place," said Sullivan, 85, who remembers seeing Bible-toting preachers and monkeys on leashes.

As the town prepares for its annual re-enactment of the trial here eight decades later, debate over teaching evolution lives on.

Eugenie Scott, director of the National Center for Science Education, said it is increasingly difficult to teach American students the basics of evolution.

"We have been facing more anti-evolution activity in the last six months than we have ever faced in a comparable period before," Scott said Friday.

In Kansas, the state school board could change science standards to include criticism of evolution. In Cobb County, Ga., labels describing evolution as a "theory, not a fact" were required in some textbooks before a court overturned the order.

Scott said 31 states this year have had "some kind of incident, such as efforts to get creationism taught or limit teaching of evolution."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: crevolist; evolution; scienceeducation; scopes
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1 posted on 07/09/2005 12:18:19 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham

There are people right here in the USA who won’t be happy until they can establish a theocracy – and the schools are always a good place to start.


2 posted on 07/09/2005 12:23:56 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Crackingham
As the town prepares for its annual re-enactment of the trial

Would be a good time to get the facts of history right, maybe do a new movie, "Inherit the Windy Ones."

3 posted on 07/09/2005 12:25:15 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: R. Scott

No need, Atheism is already the firmly established religion in public schools.


4 posted on 07/09/2005 12:26:47 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: R. Scott

I think we usually call them Muslems, who are you talking about?


5 posted on 07/09/2005 12:27:34 PM PDT by digitalbrownshirt (http://digitalbrownshirt.blogspot.com)
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To: R. Scott
Typical comment from those who aren't willing to accept scrutiny into a flawed pseudo-scientific theory.

I don't want a theocracy - I just want a moral society. Without our God-fearing founding fathers their wouldn't be a USA - but you could have some 4th rate middle eastern Sharia government.

6 posted on 07/09/2005 12:31:56 PM PDT by DesertSapper (I Love God, Family, Country! (and dead terrorists))
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To: R. Scott

What are you talking about?

Believe it or not, there ARE people who don't want evolution to be taught as fact. Sure, shed light on it...but keep in mind that is A THEORY. And a flawed one at that.


7 posted on 07/09/2005 12:36:45 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic (The liberals and the RINOs on the SCOTUS should be impeached.)
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To: R. Scott
I think you're right, but there are also plenty of people who have been trying to convince me--an agnostic--that secularism is not an ideology. Like most fanatics, those who would rub the word "God" from every public place are convinced their way is OF COURSE not some ideology, it's just "the way things should be."

I'm always on the lookout for those who, whatever they say, try to make their particular religion part of our government, but I have to admit I find the most rabid fanatics--the most hateful ones--are on the secularist side, who pretend they're not pushing an ideology.

8 posted on 07/09/2005 12:36:55 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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To: R. Scott
What happens when most of the evidence used in the trial was proved to be fabricated or scientifically incorrect.... Oooops, that already happened.
9 posted on 07/09/2005 12:38:50 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: R. Scott
1st Evolution, Then comes Biblical Astronomy

http://www.geocentricity.com

Yes, They are for real

10 posted on 07/09/2005 12:44:37 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: R. Scott

"There are people right here in the USA who won’t be happy until they can establish a theocracy –"

A lot of them are prominently here, at FR.

I call them "theocons."


11 posted on 07/09/2005 12:47:31 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

Name some of them, I haven't seen it yet.

Interesting aspect of the Scope trial is the book that was at the center of the case. It taught white supremacy as part of evolution. Don't hear that too often in the news accounts.


12 posted on 07/09/2005 12:50:47 PM PDT by digitalbrownshirt (http://digitalbrownshirt.blogspot.com)
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To: Ultra Sonic
...but keep in mind that is A THEORY...

Gravity is also a theory.

13 posted on 07/09/2005 12:54:38 PM PDT by PaulJ
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To: R. Scott

Too late, atheistic humanism is already the state sponsored religion. And don't claim that doesn't count because its in the same market.


14 posted on 07/09/2005 1:02:02 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: Crackingham

Scopes was convicted in that trial.


15 posted on 07/09/2005 1:03:17 PM PDT by Busywhiskers ("...moral principle, the sine qua non of an orderly society." --Judge Edith H. Jones)
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To: R. Scott
There are people right here in the USA who won’t be happy until they can establish a theocracy – and the schools are always a good place to start.

Why do those who absolutely hate the teachings of the Bible sound so like religious extremists when it comes to being upset at those who will not embrace the theory (it really is a theory and has no more real proof than creation (Intelligent design for the PC folks) of evolution?

I have no problem of our schools talking about evolution as a theory, but they should also discus creation just as seriously.

What I really get disgusted with is those who have closed minds trying to dis those who disagree with them as closed minded. When scientists put on blindres, they only see what they want to see and miss the other 359 degree panorama.

16 posted on 07/09/2005 1:06:11 PM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: PaulJ

True, but there are two things.

One, I noted that evolution is a very FLAWED theory. Gravity, even if it is a theory, is a very solid theory by comparison.

Second, gravity is unlike evolution in the fact that it can be OBSERVED. Evolution cannot - as it is purported to take years upon years upon years - be observed in the same capacity.


17 posted on 07/09/2005 1:09:41 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic (The liberals and the RINOs on the SCOTUS should be impeached.)
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To: Dr.Hilarious
I'm always on the lookout for those who, whatever they say, try to make their particular religion part of our government, but I have to admit I find the most rabid fanatics--the most hateful ones--are on the secularist side, who pretend they're not pushing an ideology.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!

At least you have earned your screen name.

18 posted on 07/09/2005 1:16:14 PM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: D-fendr
D-fendr wrote: Would be a good time to get the facts of history right, maybe do a new movie, "Inherit the Windy Ones."

A restaurant in my town posts a trivia question each day and gives the person who gets the correct answer a small desert. Couple of weeks ago the trivia question was, "what is the name of the movie that was based on the Scopes Monkey trial? According to the waitress, people were answering "Planet of the apes."

19 posted on 07/09/2005 1:17:35 PM PDT by Abogado (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt)
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To: Ultra Sonic
One, I noted that evolution is a very FLAWED theory.

It isn't.

Gravity, even if it is a theory, is a very solid theory by comparison.

The theory of gravity is actually far less complete than the theory of evolution.

Second, gravity is unlike evolution in the fact that it can be OBSERVED.

That is the law rather than the theory.

20 posted on 07/09/2005 1:22:24 PM PDT by bobdsmith
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