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Nichols responds to 'Third Terrorist' evidence-(media, gov't finally acknowledging OK City & terror)
WORLD NET DAILY.COM ^ | JUNE 30, 2005 | Staff Writer

Posted on 06/30/2005 11:24:54 AM PDT by CHARLITE

After a meeting with convicted Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols, a U.S. congressman reaffirmed evidence of a Middle East connection to the 1995 attack.

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif. – who has publicly vowed to address unanswered questions about the bombing – went with a staff aid to the super-maximum security prison in Florence, Colo., where Nichols is serving 161 consecutive life sentences, according to the Northeast Intelligence Network, a private, counter-terrorist research and investigation group.

In his quizzing of Nichols, the congressman relied heavily on the investigative work of journalist Jayna Davis and her book, "The Third Terrorist: The Middle Eastern Connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing," published by WND Books.

Davis asserts Nichols and Timothy McVeigh were not the lone conspirators but were part of a greater scheme involving Islamic terrorists and at least one provable link to Iraq.

As WorldNetDaily reported, Rohrabacher has said he is "deeply disturbed" that the FBI did not follow up on affidavits Davis turned over to the bureau from 22 witnesses supporting evidence that Iraqi intelligence agents infiltrated the United States to recruit and assist McVeigh and Nichols.

Davis spoke with Rohrabacher after his visit with Nichols and gave a tape of her conversation to Northeast Intelligence Network Director Douglas Hagmann.

The congressman told Davis: "Yours is the only game in town that has any evidence."

Nichols acknowledged the existence of John Doe No. 2 – the alleged third terrorist – but stopped short of identifying him, claiming he "did not want to speculate."

However, according to Rohrabacher, Nichols said "he thought other people [beyond Nichols and Timothy McVeigh] were involved" in the Oklahoma City bombing.

"Timothy McVeigh on a number of occasions, had talked about Middle Easterners," Rohrabacher told Davis. "Terry didn't say anything that would dispel the theory, the central theory of your research, which is these people [witnesses featured in "The Third Terrorist"] actually saw Tim McVeigh and he was with Arabs, and these are the people that you tracked down."

Rohrabacher, chairman of the House Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, said Nichols did not say anything that would undercut Davis' finding of a definitive Middle Eastern connection to the bombing.

The congressman said Nichols "didn't do anything that would in any way ... counter the witnesses that you have dug up and put on the record."

The witnesses provided sworn affidavits to Davis and Chicago-based attorney David Schippers, who served as chief investigative counsel to the House Judiciary Committee for the impeachment trial of former President Clinton.

Schippers also prosecuted a number of high-profile organized crime figures under U.S. Attorney General Robert Kennedy.

After conducting lengthy videotaped interviews with more than a dozen of Davis' confidential witnesses in May, Schippers stated: "Given the credibility of these witnesses, I could get an indictment with just one day of testimony before a grand jury."

Former CIA director James Woolsey also has found the witness statements accumulated by Davis to be credible, including many who attested to observing Middle Eastern nationals in the company of McVeigh and at the Murrah building at the time of the bombing.

Rohrabacher told Davis: "Your evidence remains the heaviest"

Despite the information he received from Nichols, the congressman told Davis he still was "in no hurry" to convene congressional hearings, but said he wanted to see more of her evidence.

As WND reported, on the 10th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing, in April, Rohrabacher asked in a House-floor speech why the FBI ignored strong evidence of a Middle East connection to the attack.

Rohrabacher said at the time that if the FBI does not provide satisfactory answers to his questions, he will call for congressional hearings.

Two years ago, on the eve of U.S. action in Iraq, Davis' reporting on the Oklahoma City bombing was vindicated when the U.S. 10th Circuit Court of Appeals dismissed a lawsuit filed against her after finding "defendants did not recklessly disregard the truth" in reporting on an Iraqi soldier's alleged involvement in the bombing.

Read WorldNetDaily's extensive coverage of the Oklahoma City bombing case.http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29290


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To: truthaboveall

I'm going to get the new updated paperback. Thank you for all your hard work.


181 posted on 06/30/2005 1:28:42 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (The New York Times ~ Now 89% Fact Free!)
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To: CHARLITE
"Nichols acknowledged the existence of John Doe No. 2 – the alleged third terrorist – but stopped short of identifying him, claiming he "did not want to speculate."

So what were his exact words? Did he admit absolutely that a third person was involved in the planning and execution of the OKC bombing, but didn't want to speculate on the third person's identity because he was not sure of the name?

The news here is that Nichols ADMITS that he and McVeigh were not alone. That should have been the header.

"However, according to Rohrabacher, Nichols said "he thought other people [beyond Nichols and Timothy McVeigh] were involved" in the Oklahoma City bombing.

So now we are back to Nichols 'thinks' other people were involved. I thought he just admitted to at least one other person besides him and McVeigh.

"Timothy McVeigh on a number of occasions, had talked about Middle Easterners," Rohrabacher told Davis. "Terry didn't say anything that would dispel the theory, . . ."

I think the wording should have been, 'Terry confirmed your [Jayna's] theory when he admitted that at least one other person was involved.' Sounds like Terry is going back and forth on this.

[ ...snip... ]

"Rohrabacher, chairman of the House Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, said Nichols did not say anything that would undercut Davis' finding of a definitive Middle Eastern connection to the bombing."

Again, it should have been worded that Nichols confirmed the existence of at least one other person, though it is unclear whether it was a mid-east connection or the german guy, or others.

At any rate, the admission vindicates not only Jayna Davis, but all of the FReepers (including myself) who claimed it was a conspiracy involving others besides McVeigh and Nichols.

182 posted on 06/30/2005 1:42:01 PM PDT by Eastbound (Jacked out since 3/31/05)
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To: TXnMA

A great idea. I'm making another donation to the library and this time will make sure it gets logged into the system.


183 posted on 06/30/2005 1:57:05 PM PDT by Peach
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To: truthaboveall

Thank you, Jayna for all you've done. It's an impressive amount of research and an excellent book. Your dedication is to be admired.


184 posted on 06/30/2005 1:57:50 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach; Mo1; Howlin; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...

OK city bombing ping.......


185 posted on 06/30/2005 2:02:27 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

Thank you so very much, Oxen!

I can't tell you how many people thought I was nuts talking about this story, until they read the book. There literally isn't one person who has read it, to my knowledge, who hasn't been swayed and impressed by it.


186 posted on 06/30/2005 2:04:50 PM PDT by Peach
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To: PhiKapMom

Ping to an update on the OKC story.


187 posted on 06/30/2005 2:05:06 PM PDT by Peach
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To: truthaboveall
I will call all three and put forth a plea like they don't usually hear. There are many folks, I imagine, who will fight tooth and nail to prevent ANY hearing regarding the 'third terrorist'.

But we OWE this not only to the families who lost beloved family members, we OWE the nation a genuine looksee into the connections you brought forth.

I could NEVER imagine, for one second, the shock and confusion you must have felt when your affidavits were refused. I makes my heart sick to think of it...

My older brother has a good friend who was one of the witnessed to the object flying towards TWA 800, this witness had a perfect view. To this day...the folks who tried to tell their experience over the flight downing dispise the way they were ignored at that hearing.

I can only imagine what the witnesses you gathered felt and feel as their stories are denied a voice.

Clinton and his gang, tho I know you are not political, have so much to lose should this break out, fully, one can only imagine the deceit and finger pointing that would follow.

Thank you for caring our national security, may God put wings upon your effort.

And I will pick up your paperback today, along with Mark Fuhrman's book about Terri Schiavo's heinous death.

Jayna.....consider talking to Mark about entering the realm of terrorism. What a team you would make.

188 posted on 06/30/2005 2:15:01 PM PDT by Republic (Our Father in Heaven touched the Pope, who KNEW of Terri, Terri got her mass, VATICAN STYLE!)
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To: Republic; truthaboveall
Jayna.....consider talking to Mark about entering the realm of terrorism. What a team you would make.

I'm not sure that came quite the way you intended... '-}

189 posted on 06/30/2005 2:24:40 PM PDT by TXnMA (Iraq & Afghanistan: Bush's "Bug-Zappers"...)
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To: truthaboveall
Jayna- GOD BLESS YOU! I lived in the OKC area my whole life until moving to Tulsa a few years ago, and I lost an uncle in the Murrah Building. Please don't give up.

Thank you for all of your hard work!!! Many people are grateful for you.

190 posted on 06/30/2005 2:25:42 PM PDT by CharlieOK1 (See http://www.alisrael.com/tamuz/ for what should happen to Iran)
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To: TXnMA
LOL--------you are absolutely right!

Hope Jayna understands my limitations as a poster....LOL!!!

How I wish I had written 'entering the realm of terrorism investigation'.

Dang.

191 posted on 06/30/2005 2:28:01 PM PDT by Republic (Our Father in Heaven touched the Pope, who KNEW of Terri, Terri got her mass, VATICAN STYLE!)
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To: Peach

Thanks! Way past time if you ask me for someone to admit there was another person especially since they put info looking for John Doe right after it happened.


192 posted on 06/30/2005 2:29:44 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor; Allen in 2008)
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To: PhiKapMom

I'm sick that Congress has just let this story wither away and not attended to their duties to actually INVESTIGATE!


193 posted on 06/30/2005 2:33:54 PM PDT by Peach
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To: truthaboveall; holdonnow

Dr Levin- you are the most connected person I know of. We need to get Jayna's research back in the spotlight. You know Mark Fuhrman, don't you?


194 posted on 06/30/2005 2:36:56 PM PDT by CharlieOK1 (See http://www.alisrael.com/tamuz/ for what should happen to Iran)
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To: hobbes1

OKC ping.


195 posted on 06/30/2005 2:37:13 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (we should not hesitate to resolve the tension in favor of the Constitution's original meaning-Thomas)
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To: Republic; truthaboveall
How I wish I had written 'entering the realm of terrorism investigation'.

IMHO, Jayna Davis was in the forefront of "the realm of terrorism investigation' even before the smoke stopped rising from the Murrah Building. And, bless her, she has never given up her pursuit!

Thank you, Jayna -- you have held my highest esteem for a looooong time!

196 posted on 06/30/2005 2:41:23 PM PDT by TXnMA (Iraq & Afghanistan: Bush's "Bug-Zappers"...)
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To: CHARLITE
Davis asserts Nichols and Timothy McVeigh were not the lone conspirators but were part of a greater scheme involving Islamic terrorists and at least one provable link to Iraq.

So why did they put Timothy to death so fast?  They didn't need to kill him.  I KNEW he knew a lot more.  The government was in SUCH a rush to put him to death.

197 posted on 06/30/2005 2:42:51 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Czar

A box of exploding cigars?


198 posted on 06/30/2005 2:45:39 PM PDT by MortMan (Mostly Harmless)
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To: SheLion
"The government was in SUCH a rush to put him to death."

And I doubt very much if it was to satisfy the wrath of the people against McVeigh. How many mass murderers are still waisting away in prison?

199 posted on 06/30/2005 2:52:35 PM PDT by Eastbound (Jacked out since 3/31/05)
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To: GadareneDemoniac
That was wrong for Bush to push his execution the posters on FR didn't want it they knew the story would die
200 posted on 06/30/2005 2:52:37 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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