Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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[stlnative]

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[Pepper777]

"" 3:10am to 3:20am = Deepak recieves a "I made it home" text message from Joran on his cell phone. ""

Whose to say, the text message of *I made it home*, isn't a code for something else. I would think Juran and Deepak are computer literate enough to realize their text messages are most likely recorded by their ISP.

I know I'm sounding like a tin foil head, but what the heck. :)

[jacquej]

Just to let you know I am here, lurking. I tend not to say anything if I do not have anything significant to add to the discussion.

But, between this sorry situation, and the dems' reaction to GWB's speech, I am so depressed.

Some of you young ones need to know that the political discourse (from elected congress-critters) during the Vietnam war was nothing like what we are seeing today.

I am very upset by what I am hearing. Think I will go have a little jelly glass of white wine, and take a nap. Dare I hope that when I wake up, things will have improved?

[seekthetruth]

It will be interesting to hear how he actually got home that evening! And it appears to me that his father is most likely the one who picked him up. Perhaps before the time frame of the father going to the ATM? Or were the trips to the ATM not proven to be true?

[stlnative]

My understanding is that just drug sniffing dogs were used during the "raid" of the VDS property. Cadaver dogs have not been used yet. Not sure they have checked the neighbors house or property yet. If was me I would have cadaver dogs as close to the VDS property as possible and would be fighting to get them on the VDS property.

[the Deejay]

Dare I hope that when I wake up, things will have improved?

I've hoped that every night when I go to bed.

[stlnative]

not sure... David Kock said it was a "I made it home" type message. (not quoted) - It could have been both... I made it home - get online now 2 talk.

[TexKat]

Volunteer member of Texas EquuSearch Darryl Philips of Houston, TX, searches for missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway at an abandoned home in Hooiberg, Aruba, Wednesday, June 29, 2005, near the home of two suspects detained in the case. Holloway disappeared on this Dutch Caribbean Island on May 30. (AP Photo/Leslie Mazoch)

International media follow volunteer members of Texas EquuSearch, Jim Green, center, of Rico, CO, and Darryl Philips, left center, of Houston, TX, as they point over Hooiberg, Aruba, Wednesday, June 29, 2005, before searching for missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway, in the area of the home of two suspects detained in the case. Holloway disappeared on this Dutch Caribbean Island on May 30. (AP Photo/Leslie Mazoch)

Volunteer member of Texas EquuSearch, left, and an Aruban Red Cross member search for missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway in Hooiberg, Aruba, Wednesday, June 29, 2005, near the home of two suspects detained in the case. Holloway disappeared on this Dutch Caribbean Island on May 30. (AP Photo/Leslie Mazoch)

Volunteer member of Texas EquuSearch, Mary Peter, of Brooksville, FL, guides her german shepherd search dog Ruger on a ground search for missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway who disappeared on this Dutch Caribbean Island on May 30, in northern Aruba, Tuesday, June 28, 2005. (AP Photo/Leslie Mazoch)

[maggief]

It's a guessing game at this point, and may not be relevant. The key is what cell towers picked up the messaging.

[stlnative]

We don't know if these things are true or not - this is just what is out there now. Satish's seems confident in what he says but he does not over do it. He answers Greta's questions with ease as if it was just a normal conversation. David Kock is not overly protective or pushing to prove Satish's innocent's. David Kock talks in a matter of fact way. He answers Greta's questions even the questions are not about Satish.

[stlnative]

Didn't PvdS say something to the effect of "I hope Juran can stand/hold up"? Stand/hold up to what? Spilling the beans?

Yes... he hopes that Joran can stand up to it.

[auboy]

Perhaps before the time frame of the father going to the ATM? Or were the trips to the ATM not proven to be true?

I have heard no confirmation about the ATM transactions - three of them? Anyone have an update?

[debg]

OT but funny. Shepard Smith (Fox) just commented: "Ya can't blog. Ya can't keep your own home. But, if you want to tell the terrorists how to poison the milk supply...you're on!"

[maggief]

You may need to take a loooong nap. ;-D

[stlnative]

The key is what cell towers picked up the messaging.

Yes... this would possibly help prove that Deepak was near his home and that Joran was somewhere else. I am taking it that police "think" that the brother's were at home, but since the brothers were willing to lie for Joran about the HI/Security Guard Story and since the brothers do not have a Alibi (only each other for alibi's) then they are still being held.) - My guess is that the 2 brothers will be set free next Tuesday and Joran will continue to be held and we may have PVDS back behind bars by then. Why the brothers lied for Joran could simply be that PVDS suggested to them that Natalee was seen with all the 3 of the boys getting into Deepak's car and that the Kalpoe brother's do not have a alibi. (like their mother being able to verify they were at home). Or the brothers may be neck deep is this, but the way things are looking they went home and stayed home. Their story has only changed once, from the HI/Security Guard Story to what we are hearing now.

[girlscout]

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[presently no screen name]

deep investigation..(hehe) I saw that! :)


I doubt she did it and too afraid to speak. She knows she was set up.

Just wondering if he, Rene, knew Joran - drove him home and took Natalee to dispose of - Joran told father - father goes to ATM and had someone take care of him to make sure he wouldn't talk. NOW - talk about speculating! I really stretched it.

Thanks again.

[Palladin]

Gee, those Equusearch people are working hard. Just imagine climbing up all those white steps in the tropical heat. I hope they take plenty of water breaks. Some of the men are of an age when they have to worry about their hearts.

It is so good of them to make such sacrifices.

I hope and pray they will be the ones to find Natalee.

[auboy]

I guess that statement can be interpreted to have several meanings.

But, in my cynical mind, it goes back to "say nothing" - and if you must talk, tell anything but what really happened. Don't let me down, son. We can ride this out.

[BunnySlippers]

I liked Satish's lawyer - he didn't talk like a lawyer but maybe he's just a good bluffer.

All the lawyers in Aruba have impressed me ... at least character-wise. Ours dissemble and seem like shady used car salesmen.