Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative
Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...
Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts
Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts
Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts
Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts
Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts
Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts
Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts
Aruba Info...
Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif
Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif
San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif
Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)
Hotel Pictures -
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)
Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1
Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1
Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg
Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html
Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif
Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)
Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/
Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html
Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html
Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)
Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/
Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923
Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.
Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long
B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.
D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.
D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.
G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located
D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives
F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.
C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.
E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.
PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
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This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.
Examples
Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)
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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
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(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)
This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.
Evening Howlin. Where was Bill Clinton that week end?
Family celebration, she said.
This is interesting from CTV boards:
"So....you're asked about a girl you were seen with because no one has seen her for a day...how do you know she didn't just 'bag' her classmates to stay in Aruba and have fun? Why jump to a conclusion that something sinister has happened to her? "Yeah, officer, we hung then went to the beach. I gave it my best shot she turned me down and I walked away and called my friend to come get me." Sounds reasonable to me...at that point YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO KNOW ANYTHING HAPPENED TO HER."
" In other words she said Natalee was raped and there should be DNA evidence in her son's car."
She sure seemed to imply that is what she was told by the sons. However, that was the story they told her, before they changed it to--> We dropped Juran and Natalee at the beach. So who knows if what the sons told her was true or not.
About a week ago, somebody from Aruba, said on tv that they have a lot of murders there, in cemeteries because of Santeria. You may recall some years ago that a young drunken white male was abducted across the border from Texas, in Mexico, as he was walking with his friends! and it was found to be Santeria related-- a human sacrifice. Wonder where that angle went?
She said it was for a family celebration. No doubt she had a substitute teacher take her place. It was the end of the term, and I don't think there are final exams in Art.
Reardless, if she had been home, the same thing would have happened to Natalee anyway because Joran is totally without a consciencs. A sciopath.
Why didn' Greta ask Madame Van Sloot why she had to send her son Joran "away" because of anger management issues?
since y'all are wearing the tinfoil hats, I found this on another website. I know nothing about it but am putting out here because it is better to hope for this scenario than to find a body somewhere.
Kristen in Aruba writes:
"well, i dont really know. i am trying to let my brain rest as much as possible. i had been going crazy about this case…annoyed with the fakeness from the media and the family. someone has said that the 5th suspect is someone named lorenzo…and that he has natalee on the island. someone else mentioned that they had her in a graffiti painted van, with a large speaker in the back…and that this lorenzo person is either related to or close to joran. joran supposedly was just helping lorenzo, but no one knows if he did anything with or to natalee. is it said that the family knows this, and the reason that nat’s friends had a cookout to “raise money” for natalee’s fund was really to raise money for her ransom. supposedly no one can say anything because then the kidnappers will do something bad to nat. of course, this is all speculation, and based on what SOME of the people in aruba are saying. i am not pointing fingers at anyone, the information comes from a bunch of people. supposedly there was some sort of car chase or something, and natalee was said to be in thr car….i dont know if that came from aruba or not….and this all explains why natalee’s family is confident for the most part that she is in aruba, and that she is alive. they are getting tips on whats going on.
dont count me on this for sure, i dont really know what is truth and what is rumor. "
I thought they tested the "bloodstain" in the backseat...surely they ruled out semen when they ruled out blood?
LOL!!
It's now been confirmed...just don't know what it was Beth gleened...it got Joran's Dad detained an additional 48 hours.
We also heard on H & C show Joran's Dad was suspected by the authorities of the disappearance of Natalee.
Well said.
According to first reports the decapitated man's wife worked nights at one of the Aruba hotels. Was it a message for her?
Very interesting and it could be true. Actually if Natalee was kidnapped by the Sex/Slave Trade, there's a chance she IS still alive. As horrible as the sex trade people would be, at least she might still be alive. From the different things Natalee's parents have said, without giving specifics, I'm thinking this post you copied could be partially true.
There's been rumors that Lorenso is Juran's half brother??? Not sure if that is true or not. We also have to remember the missing girl, Amy Bradley from 1998. The same C&C Bar was mentioned in her case and the Sex Trade thing was somewhat confirmed.
I suspect she IS going to feel just plain awful...sick to her stomach...but Academy Award performance? I think not. I really feel sorry for her. What mother/wife in her right mind could even consider their husband/son a murderer (accident or not) or conspirator. I've got to give her a break with this one. Who in their right mind would want to have to think such a thing about the two persons closest to you. The woman goes away on a trip to Holland and returns to find her family in the international spotlight. Yes, I would want to believe my son and husband should we be in the same type of situation; but I'm much more realistic and not naive as she appears to be. I genuinely feel sorry for her. It's obvious that she was in deep, deep pain and sorrow. Who in the world would she have to talk to about it, besides the husband. Then along comes Greta...the woman (the Mom) obviously has reached a point where she needs to talk about it and come to terms with what's happened.
Not so incidentally......where WERE those responsible adults...i.e. chaperons? I was one of many chaperons for a group of HS students to DC once, and we worked in shifts patrolling the hotel halls during the night to make SURE no student slipped out and got into trouble.
But the rumor has been out there.
I would like they would have ruled out semen, but maybe not. You know how they tell only a partial truth sometimes, but they did seem to rule out it being DNA evidence. Now that I'm thinking about it, they did NOT tell us what it actually was, did they???? Did they only say it was NOT blood??
Hmmmmmmmmmm.... Also it takes sometimes weeks to do DNA testing. Dang I'm not sure on this one. So much to try and remember with this case.
I only passed it along because it actually gave me something positive to hope for. As awful as it sounds it is better than a lot of the other possible scenarios.
Another thing they are discussing on CTV is the fact that his latest statement says "I dropped her off..." but supposedly he wasn't driving.
Perhaps the boys DID drop them at his house and he was driving his Jeep, which, they say, would explain why HIS Jeep is on the way to Holland and the other boy's is NOT.
HIS jeep is on the way to Holland? When was it shipped? By whom...the father? Any explanation from anyone as to why?
Just thought....was his Jeep sent to Holland for forenseic evidence search?
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