Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[Howlin]

I started wondering about something while I was gone: do we know what Paulus did ALL DAY MONDAY, before the Twittys got there at 11 P.M. that night?

[onyx]

LOL! Yes, you're right. I was gone too.

[the Deejay]

Welcome back, your dreams were
your ticket out.....Welcome back!

[Howlin]

Humming along...

[Trust but Verify]

And if someone is determined to jump over the side, the Captain is somehow supposed to stop them, right? I guess you are unfamiliar with personal responsibility.

[johnb838]

I was just thinking last night that some of the Indian/Surinamese pronounce his name Urine, and I decided I would start saying that. I hadn't started yet when I read it here this morning.

I hadn't heard Van Der Sweat, but I love it. I was one that was giving him a break on that until Beth said she had never seen a man sweat that much in her life. It was like the telltale heart. It was a "tell" -- that's one man who should never play poker. Also, I figured it was hot, then I find out it never gets over 85 there.

I woke from a dream last night thinking "the grandmother... have to look into the grandmother". I don't know why I thought that. It was certainly Urine's grandmother I was thinking of... Anybody know who she/they are? Still living? Could have been Godmother I suppose, but that's not what I was thinking. I don't know why I dreamt that.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Yep, he would've had to have access to a boat.

I think his father may have arranged it for him.

[elli1]

These people don't go to bed like normal folks, remember? JVDS wasn't even home at 3:00 a.m.,...

So, did they have a rope with them or, didn't they?

[onyx]

Me too. We're on the same page.

[the Deejay]

WHERE????????

WHERE HAVE I COMPARED THIS TO ANY OTHER CASE?

[Peach]

Welcome back. At least Greta was back from her weekend away and interviewed Natalee's mother last night.

[TexKat]

Welcome back!!

[Peach]

It was very frustrating not having access to FR, but I can't get over how much I got done around here!

[demkicker]

Quit playing games. Why don't you just come right out and bash Natalee's family and side with the VDS's and be done with it?

[eartotheground]

"So after that, he was like, "I want to take you around and show you a few other places." We were like, "Yeah that's cool; it's not like we've got *** else better to do." I think the first place we went was to see the sharks, which was ***** awesome. You see, there's like one half of Aruba where all the tourists go surfing, and they can't have any sharks over there lest they end up with a Jaws-like situation. So what they do is that they drop ***loads of meat into the water on the opposite side of the island. It's weird because you can go right up to the edge of this little cliff and look over and see mad sharks just swimming around in the water..."

this is from some blog but I can confirm from firsthand experience

[johnb838]

For us, eet iss not possible to teel you vhere zee young laty ees at this time. At ze proper time ve vill tell se Johdge, who vill make ze decision.

[Trust but Verify]

If you have not tried to tie this case in with other missing person's cases (the one where the woman from a cruise ship went missing and supposedly ended up a sex-slave in Venezuela comes to mind) then accept my apologies, but you would be one of the few who hasn't.

This case and the whole tarring of an entire country, etc, has made me think that people are losing their bearings. When someone goes missing here in America, and I suspect it happens every day, should the character of whole country or legal system be called into question?

[No Surrender No Retreat]

I agree, but people have different priorities in what interest them not as to what is right or wrong. It was a shame about the two SGs, and the Aruban LE acted on the lies of three perps who were last seen with Natalee.

The was one of the first indicator of investigation debacle 101. NSNR

[johnb838]

Well, because the evil nazi-like Booosh administration has been so unlikeable in the vorld, it has created a pent-up rage against Americans that we are now reaping the effects of when we travel abroad. If we would only send someone like Wesley Clark to the United Nations, we would find that people would love us again, for the Sensitive, Earth loving types that we labored to create the impression that we were throughout the Clinton Administration, and which the Boosh administration has destroyed.

[the Deejay]

sex-slave in Venezuela comes to mind

NOT IN "MY" MIND.

I've not entertained that for a second. You have me confused w/others..FIND THEM! and get off my back.