Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[GarySpFc]

All I can say is let me know if Brian has a dream about a huge earthquake on the New Madrid Fault so I can get the hell out of dodge. LOL... (the New Madrid Fault is in Missouri and Arkansas)

The insurance company I am an agent with researched the New Madrid fault several years ago. They immediately cut back on the number of agents and business they were doing in the area. I don't know if you are aware of it, but in 1811 and 1812 there were several quakes larger than 8.1. They created 100 foot earth waves, rang bells in Boston, and 40 acre tracts of land of larger fell into the Mississippi River, which flowed North for 3 days. If they have another one that large Memphis will cease to exist.

[toldyou]

Regarding your post #2609. LOL!

And the little creep is smiling!

[the Deejay]

Mark Klaas always tells ppl
to STAY AWAY FROM PSYCHICS.
The ones that tried to help
find Polly only ruined and
held up the investigation.

[vigilante2]

my grilled cheese sandwitch told me the same thing

[maggief]

!!!

Arubagirl photo gallery:

http://arubagirl.typepad.com/photos/nh/

[HoHoeHeaux]

brigette, were you around about 15 years ago when someone predicted it would hit? They even had a date if I remember correctly. Maybe December? Scared the bejesus out of everyone here anyway. I don't know how it played out elsewhere but in western Ky it was all over the news. I got an earthquake kit ready. (o: But yes I agree. When it hits,andnot IF, it will be devestating.

[spectre]

I hear you!

Several years ago, we added Earthquake Insurance to our Homeowners policy here in Arkansas (New Madrid Fault Zone). Our company (USAA) stopped issuing that insurance here, but we got in under the wire. We're NOT dropping it either :)

[demkicker]

Well, let's not split hairs. I think we're both right, but I certainly didn't mean to slight NH's family and I'm sure they're devastated. I'm wondering if we're getting ready for a very foul odor of a cover-up from the Dutch.

Will be interesting to hear if Geraldo has any real news to report about this latest development.

[monkeywrench]

I hope someone with better eyes than mine can pick out that red flag in the pic of the atm. It looks like a McDonald's golden arches flag.

[GarySpFc]

For some reason I keep going back to Carlos and Charlies in my thoughts. Does anyone have pictures of the inside and outside of the bar?

[WestCoastGal]

Fox just showed pictures of PvdS after being released today. He has the shiftiest and weirdest EYES I hae ever seen. There is definitely something up with him!!

I now wonder about the new judge being called in to look like they are not playing favorites and then he releases this jerk. More Aruba politics and games.

[maggief]

Where the flag is is McDonald's , the white building is part of the Setar Teleshop where the phones are.

[Collier]

to me it looked like UBA.........as in ARUBA

[the Deejay]

Maybe Geraldo will have Beth on
to get her take on the day's
court happenings.

[WestCoastGal]

[maggief]

A few days ago I posted a photo gallery that contained quite a few photos from Cn'C.

[presently no screen name]

Ok, so that settles it - the news was out. I didn't find out where he was from - but he made this prediction in May.

You are correct - he most definitely should have contacted authorities. A 'missing children" predication/dream should be kept to the side and when he hears of any such tragedy, quickly notified the state. That is - if he believes his own press. What good is a 'gift' if he doesn't use it to help others. In that case alone - he could have possibly saved 3 lives and the untold grief of their families.

[monkeywrench]

Ah, thanks, I didn't scroll down far enough. LOL!

[TexKat]

Several hundred at hometown benefit for Natalee Holloway

> The Associated Press

June 26, 2005

Several hundred people, including classmates who traveled to Aruba with missing teen Natalee Holloway, attended a hometown fund-raiser for the Holloway family.

Holloway, 18, went missing May 30 on a Mountain Brook High School graduation trip to the Caribbean island with classmates and chaperones.

At the fund-raiser Saturday afternoon, a group of six Mountain Brook teenage girls put on matching silver wishbone necklaces, a sign of their lasting friendship.

"Natalee still has hers," Mallie Tucker said at the concert raising money for the search for Holloway. "Natalee is my best friend and I'd do anything to bring her home."

"We just get together and pray," said Frances Ellen Byrd, also wearing her wishbone necklace. "We can't wait for her to get home."

Byrd was at Carlos and Charlie's in Aruba the night Holloway disappeared. "I never saw her when she left," Byrd said. "It was closing time and everyone was leaving."

She said that Holloway was with 17-year-old Joran van der Sloot - now detained by police in her disappearance - as early as 9:30 p.m. the night of the disappearance, before leaving with him after the bar closed at 1 a.m.

She said it was hard to keep track of all the 124 Mountain Brook High School students as they left the bar.

"I don't blame anyone," Byrd said.

But there is still guilt, some of Holloway's fellow students said.

"A lot of us feel personal guilt," said Milner Owens, who was on the trip to Aruba. "People are trying not to relive it. I wish we had done something. We've all learned a lesson from this. We've changed. Life is altered."

Beau Barron, also on the Aruba trip, remembers being at the bar with Holloway that night, and wonders how it could have turned out differently. "It's always in the back of everybody's mind," he said.

The chaperones are not to blame, Barron said.

"They weren't there to hold our hands," he said. "By no means should this be put on them at all."

Said Barron: "We're trying to keep hope alive. Nobody's giving up."

A group of 24 volunteers, including eight divers, with Texas EquuSearch began searching Aruba with sonar equipment and dogs on Saturday.

Barron lined up with others in front of Otey's in Crestline to donate money to help cover the costs of the search effort in Aruba and to pay for expenses for Holloway's family to stay there as long as necessary.

Doug and Joy Smith, co-owners of Otey's, hosted the benefit, with musicians Matthew Mayfield and Will Mason of the Moses Mayfield band performing. Donated items were auctioned off.

"This is a way we can show our support," Joy Smith said.

"It's a strong community," Doug Smith said. "Everybody's ready to do everything they can."

'Scarborough Country' for June 2

SCARBOROUGH: Let me ask you, Frances Ellen, when is the last time you saw her?

BYRD: That night.

SCARBOROUGH: Yes, you saw her the night...

BYRD: I was with her that night.

SCARBOROUGH: You were with her that night.

BYRD: Yes. Yes.

SCARBOROUGH: All the friends went back to the hotel. And did you all see her go back to the hotel or not?

BYRD: I am just leaving it that we saw her there.

SCARBOROUGH: Saw her that night. BYRD: Right.

YODER: Yes. Absolutely.

[jacquej]

I do not know, demkicker. I am kinda depressed for Natalee's family tonight, particularly her mother.

I might be attaching too much emotional importance to this sad tale, because my oldest child, died at about this age, but not this way. She had a sudden fatal cardiac arrythmia caused by a congential birth defect that we thought inconsequential. We got the phone call at 3AM, from a hospital far away, in a college town.

So, my heart is with Beth, for I know the hell she is living in.