Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative
Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...
Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts
Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts
Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts
Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts
Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts
Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts
Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts
Aruba Info...
Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif
Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif
San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif
Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)
Hotel Pictures -
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)
Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1
Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1
Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg
Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html
Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif
Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)
Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/
Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html
Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html
Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)
Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/
Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923
Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.
Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long
B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.
D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.
D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.
G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located
D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives
F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.
C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.
E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.
PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.
I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.
This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.
Examples
Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)
I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE
Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)
This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.
Croes definitely not lie for Joran because supposedly he did not know Joran. Croes is a friend or an associated of Deepak.
So if Deepak was at home when Natalee came up missing (approximately 2:30 a.m. 5/30 why did Croes have to provide Deepak with an alibi.
Is there any record of when Mama Kalpoe stating the time that the Kalpoe boys returned home.
Wow!
They do look a bit alike!
The only thing that I know is that Natalee's
daddy lives in Meridian, and he and his family
go to my home church.
Other than that, I can't help you.
Sorry!
I've thought of that, but I just don't see him getting home from Rotterdam or wherever and getting this all together within a week. He would have been mulling it over. Unless Joran was like Scott in Austin Powers (Come'on Dad, let me put a cap in his ass. Scott, put a sock in it) and took matters into his own hands. The theory is pretty out there. Thailand is pretty much out. Women are so cheap there. The Saudi's are the ones that shop for women because they can take them behind the walls never to be seen again.
IT would be very interesting to know more about Paulus' finances though, I'll grant you that.
" If the above scenario is true, PVDS may be scared that he or his son (or other family members) will end up being decapitated like the poor fellow last week. "
Your scenario is very interesting. What I'm wondering is why did it take Rudy almost a month to say PVDS was a FAILED JUDGE??? Why didn't Rudy reveal this information early on?? Strange, imo. It's like the Aruban government is trying to distance themselves from the VDS family.
Senario: (This might be how it went down, but I think this is how Joran and his father will spin it)
Deepak & Satish drop Natalee & Joran at beach.
Joran calls Deepak to come pick him and Natalee up (instead of Joran saying he is going to walk home)
Now the spin or possibly the truth...
Deepak and/or Satish go to pick up Natalee & Joran
Deepak and/or Satish decide they want to take advantage of Natalee. They stay at the beach with Natalee while Joran walks home, Joran text meessages Deepak to let him know he made the walk home safely. Now Deepak and/or Satish are the last ones to see her alive.
OR...
Deepak and Satish take Natalee & Joran to beach - the brothers go home and stay home for the rest of the night - Joran calls Deepak to him he left Natalee at the beach and is now going to walk home. 40 minutes later Joran text messages Deepak to let him know he made home safely (or to cover his butt)
This is a stretch, especially weeks after the disappearance, but maybe Beth smelled Natalee's perfume there? My daughters all used distinctive scents, and when walking into a room, I could tell which one had passed through. (Certainly not after days, though). One always wore a musk; another, lavender; the third one, her mother's Chanel.
Funny that Fox is still keeping a lid on the information that Paulus failed the "bar" exam.
I can see them trying that Brigette, but I don't think that turkey is going to fly very far.
Thanks, got it.. I missed the one that showed the VDS house.
unless LE knows that one or both of the Kalpoes did return to the beach. Then that turkey spin would fly.
You're right TexKat. Croes is suppose to be a friend of Deepak, not Juran. However, there might be a link between Juran and Croes that has not been revealed, as of yet. You'd think Juran, being the big party man, would have spent time on the Tatoo.
Fox is reporting the Croes alibi was for the brothers. Which still doesn't make sense. Why put yourself in the middle of a missing person's case - unless you are FORCED to do so??
or if you are a Kalpoe buddy and they are really the ones that need the alibi. (shoot now I am going back to thinking the Kalpoes might have done her in) - remember Deepak is the one that asked Joran why he was lying about calling Deepak for a ride home (at the time of that call, the 2:40am one it was suppose to be a request from Joran for a ride home from one of the brothers when we first heard about it)
Now we are hearing from the Kalpoe lawyer, that is was just Joran calling to tell them he was leaving the beach to walk home...
MAKES YOU GO HMMMM......
She didn't know what time they came home. They weren't home when she fell asleep - I think it was around 1am, and when she woke up sometime later, their bedroom doors were closed so she knew they had come home. Sorry, I can't remember what time she woke up, but it was several hours later, I think.
" Funny that Fox is still keeping a lid on the information that Paulus failed the "bar" exam."
It's difficult to really know what is true or not true, when it comes to Paulus.
Actually, I am closer to Riddle. Sort of like trying to find out what happened to Natalee. I do believe Joran was/is slap dab in the middle of her disappearance.
Maybe they've been unable to substantiate that information.
I am guilty of almost believing that Joran did something to her on his own. Maybe because he seemed like such a spoiled brat with pictures of him all over the place. I should have looked harder at the 2 brothers instead of trying to figure out how Joran did this.
Maybe the reality is that Joran has been lying "for" the Kalpoes to help protect them. Joran may have had sex with Natalee before the brothers came back to the beach (thus his DNA would be there also) and the Kalpoes may have wanted some action and Joran wanted to get home and too bed, so he walked home because the brother wanted to him to hang around until they got done with her. Note: she may have been out cold - joran may have drugged her with GHB and had planned to leave her on the beach after he was done and then get a ride home with the Kalpoes and the Kalpoes may have actually killed her when went they came back to the beach, she may have came too and started screaming so they smothered her to muffle her screams)
So now you have Joran's DNA, and Kalpoes DNA there and she is dead. They call the wanna be judge for help. The judge gets involved because his son's DNA is also there, even if Joran was on his way home when the Kalpoes killed her.
Yes, that's a stretch.
There was someone on Fox News Live on Thursday that said basically the same thing. I can't remember exactly who it was but I think it was a retired FBI agent.
TAW
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