Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[Peach]

Oh crud.

[Howlin]

Whooops......forgot to ping you to the latest news!

No hearing today.

[the Deejay]

lawdy!! A judge misses his
flight?! lol

[Diva Betsy Ross]

I offer my condolences over the loss of your Dad. May he always rest in peace.

BTS- that must have been a difficult thing to go thru- anyone who has lost a loved one knows that.

I hope someone finds Natlalee so that one family can be sparred- but it is looking doubtful at this point, isn't it?

I keep checking here- every so often for an update.

[TexKat]

Why would the manager keep PVDS out of the hotel? Intoxicated? Angry?

Video of Greta's Interview with Jug Twitty (Natalee's stepfather)

George Twitty on van der Sloot Sr. (VIDEO)

Natalee’s Stepfather George “Jug” Twitty went On the Record with Greta to say what he thought about Joran van der Sloot and his father. Boy does he not like Sloot Sr.

[Howlin]

You have a real problem, IMO. You stalk people and when they ignore you, you write to their friends and beg them to intercede on your behalf so that you can "be friends."

And I'm not the only one who knows it.

You've shown what you are on this thread.

[monkeywrench]

http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/newsdesk/backissues/newsletter05.html From 1998

New ferry service introduced between Aruba and Venezuela.

Lusitania Expresso was introduced to the press recently at a press conference held at the Wyndham Hotel & Casino. The Lusitania Expresso is the new ferry that will be providing services from Aruba to Punto Fijo and back. The idea behind this new project is to create a strong touristic and economic bond between Aruba and Venezuela in general.

Various topics related to this were discussed at the conference, including the Free Zone of Paraguana, a possible project in which they will export fresh water to Aruba, and what Falcon has to offer in the areas of tourism and economy.

[Peach]

Oh, Mr. Peach and I thought Mr. Twitty was just like my stepdad who takes no prisoners if you mess with his family.

Their instincts from the beginning were sound, I think.

[TexKat]

Thank you, I'll pass it on.

HEARING RESCHEDULED UNTIL TOMORROW AT 8:30 a.m.

[Miss Marple]

Now THAT is an interesting fact! If she was shanghaied to Venezuela, it will be really hard to find her; that nut-case who runs Venezuela won't cooperate one bit.

Interesting fact: Chavez has a pet parrot that he takes to appearances, and the parrot wears a teeny tiny beret, just like Chavez.

That is why I know he is a nutcase.

[monkeywrench]

I figure if columbians can dole out 250.00 a piece to get smuggled into aruba, someone can pay them that or more to smuggle someone out. Maybe on one of those ships that come in everyday.http://www.caribbeannetnews.com/2005/03/16/dead.shtml

[TexKat]

In that video is where Jug tells Greta that the casino guard, mgr? would not let PVDS into the casino due to PVDS being irate, upset, confrontational, etc.

[jacquej]

from reading your link, that ferry can carry 500 passengers and 100 vehicles...

No schedule for that ferry mentioned, though

[monkeywrench]

http://www.atsnn.com/story/127047.html This article is short and it appears people smuggling is not high on the list of priorities for the authorities. Seems to be common knowledge. A boatsman like croes might be familiar with some of them.

[Peach]

I had NOT known that until today; I've missed a lot of these interviews because by 10 I usually have the news off. But I'll make it a point to catch Greta from now on.

Does anyone know why JVDS was confrontational?

[the Deejay]

I doubt a ferry would run
at late night hours.
And a car going on a
ferry would have to
have an "owner."

Cars would be inspected
and one would need a
passport/visa prior to
boarding the ferry.

[TexKat]

Does anyone know why JVDS was confrontational?

Do you mean PVDS?

On that link with the video of Jug, there is quite a few other videos of Greta's interviews of this case. I am glad that I ran across it.

[monkeywrench]

I agree. A ferry is unlikely. The fruit and vegetable ships already engage in people smuggling. Apparently they have people paid off, or know how to game the system.

[Malichi]

I think the lady asked you politely to leave her alone.