Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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[stlnative]

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[TexKat]

'Something bad happened' to Holloway

Saturday, June 11, 2005

HANNAH WOLFSON News staff writer

ORANJESTAD, Aruba - Police investigating the disappearance of an Alabama teenager in Aruba said early Saturday that one of three young men in custody has admitted "something bad happened" to her during her island visit, The Associated Press reported.

[hummingbird]

But hey, that's life as a FReeper... some of us spend way more time than we should here, but never as much as we want to... ;oP

"I hear you..."

?:^)

[Peach]

When Joran arrived home that night, he text messaged one of the brothers and said "Hey, we need to talk about this" and they met at his pool and came up with the story about dropping Natalee off at the hotel.

Stupid question. Are police able to find old IM's sent?

[stlnative]

banter - with the people who want it in B&W from another source, because they don't believe the poster. Nothing is in B&W. Much of the info we are getting is hearsay, period. Please also need to read my words correctly "may have", "I understand it as", etc...

Discussion about the Natalee case is what this thread is suppose to be about. Not Tom Cruise, Michael Jackson, 2 other missing now found dead boys (sigh), etc... I am talking about the posts and replies that go on and on about these other stories on this thread.

There are other threads already going about these other stories that people can use to comment on about.

I also do not want this to turn into a Natalee, Natalee Family, Chaperone bashing thread like the past threads that I did "not" start turned into. People around (family/friends) Natalee are not suspects in the case, there is no reason to bash them.

[beyond the sea]

And just where was Karl Rove on the evening of May 29, 2005? Was HE the mysterious man on the plane that Greta is hunting down??

The devious Karl was putting together another scam to embarrass the terrorists with the "kidnapped" action figure "Cody".

;-)

[spectre]

You said:

"people who pop in and out of the thread when they can and they want "b&w proof" for everything if someone brings up something that has already been discussed in the past. People don't understand there are 3 of us that have been on these threads from the beginning. We also hunt other forums and blogs for info and rumors and we bring the stuff back here. I try to post just to these 2 other people as I know they know as much as I do, but then someone comes in asking questions about a post I made to these 2 people. I try to answer, but it seems I am always called out on what I write.

"My posts mainly are meant for the other 2 people that have been following the case nearly 24 hours a day and who are also getting information from other sources. (all the links are at the header of the thread).""

Look, you started this thread, and we've all fallen over backwards to thank you it. OTOH, you want to control the discussion when we occasionally lighten up and stray off topic and that is not your place to chastise us.

I didn't realize that you were only posting to TWO others, and using this thread for that purpose alone. I guess the rest of us are just peons? If this is the case, you should have told us, and we would start another thread where you wouldn't feel like we were intruding on your space.

sw

[Howlin]

You're asking ME? Har.

I'm sure someone will be right along to tell us though; that's the great thing about FR!

[Palladin]

Can you prove that?

By the way, where were Teddy Kennedy, William Smith, and Bill Bennett that night?

[Nita Nupress]

If anyone got the inclination and had the extra time, they could make some type of brief summary of what has been researched so far.  It wouldn't have to be anything fancy or detailed, but just a summary of "what we know thus far" would be helpful.  Then every time someone came on the thread to ask what's happened, you could just point them to the summary and be done with it.

 I tried this last summer with the Nick Berg thing and it helped me keep everything straight in my head (a tough feat at times).  It took a little work, but that was because once I started it, I sort of went overboard with it.  Anyway, I was glad I'd done it by the time I finished.  With the Natalee disappearance, all that is needed is for someone to break things out into categories, such as names, places, dates, or significant events, etc. 

It's just a suggestion.  I wish I had time to do it here, but quite honestly, I'm so lost now it's ridiculous.  In fact, there's so much information on this, it may take more than 1 person to gather the information and put the pieces together.

Here's a link to the Nick Berg summary, in case anyone is interested.  (I used FrontPage for the formatting, btw.)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1143602/posts?page=1859#1859

[beyond the sea]

It was a joke..... maybe a poor joke.

[blu]

Please FReepmail me your address, so I know where to send the strawberry jam that is my life this week!

[Palladin]

;) ;) ;)

I actually got the joke.

[Palladin]

You did great work on that Nick Berg thread.

[hummingbird]

Sorry about your Dad anyways. <> <

[beyond the sea]

LOL..........

I gotta get out of here. The plants need some water!

Have a fine weekend!

(bts)

[beyond the sea]

Danke........

[Howlin]

I asked you before and I'm asking you again IN PUBLIC;

Please STOP Freepmailing me.

And no, I am NOT an unhappy, miserable woman; that is what seems to bother you the most!

Take a hint. I don't want to be friends with you.