Majority of Americans Favour Iraq Troop Withdrawal

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[Brad’s Gramma]

DO you think its a good idea to pull out our troops from iraq at this critical juncture??

NO!

[GloriaJane]

This is what it says about them on their web site: "At Angus Reid Consultants, we offer clients strategic advice to help them make better decisions about how to align their research needs in this rapidly changing environment. We provide services which help clients navigate the increasingly complicated world of marketing research and polling services."

Well, anyone (with a sound mind) after reading their poll, wouldn't want to hire this outfit for strategic advice because they have shown here that they can't do the job. LOL!!

[DrDeb]

THE SPINNING OF GALLUP'S SURVEY ON IRAQ:

According to a 6/8/05 Gallup poll, the respondents surveyed offered the following opinions concerning our troop levels in Iraq:

10% send more
26% keep the same
31% withdraw some
28% withdraw all

In typical agenda-driven fashion, the leftist MSM chose to add those who answered 'withdraw some' to those who responded 'withdraw all' so that they could BOGUSLY report that 59% of the American people want our troops out of Iraq . . . NONSENSE!

An objective MSM would have noted that 67% of the American public want to maintain our presence in Iraq, with a plurality within this percentage also wanting to begin the 'draw down' process -- A POSITION, BY THE WAY, THAT JUST HAPPENS TO REFLECT THE PRESIDENT'S OFFICIAL POSTURE RELATIVE TO THIS ISSUE!!!

BTW: IBD/TIPP's new poll offers CONVERSE results:
http://www.investors.com/editorial/issues02.asp?v=6/14


NEVER BELIEVE THE MSM'S 'SPIN' OF ANY POLL . . . THEY HAVE BUT ONE OBJECTIVE: DESTROY REPUBLICANS AND EMPOWER DEMOCRATS!!

[Huck]

And meanwhile, since the administration has not communicated specific measurable goals, and has done a piss-poor job of informing the public of the progress towards those goals, Americans are left to wonder what progress is actually being made. So, what progress is being made? I don't mean sidebar human interest stories. I mean progress towards our goal. How is it even being measured? How are we supposed to evaluate our progress? Oh, I forgot. GWB is infallible and we should just sit back and wave the flag.

[metesky]

98% of all women I've ever been involved with have demanded that I withdraw.

That of course, meant nothing to me.

Gub'mint by poll, what could be more democratic?

[deathb4dishoner]

don't believe we should pull out but the war is being prosecuted in a p.c. fashion that is killing our guys. Acting as police and not ass kickers. Want them home now but realize the reality.

[marron]

I think it's lame that the administration gets away with having no time tables, no estimates, no assumptions. Just cutesy "however long it takes" rhetoric, and a total lack of information to the American public.

Imagine asking FDR in 1942 how much its going to cost, and how long are we going to be over there...

The answer then, as now, is that its unknowable. It depends in part on the enemy. How long will it be before the enemy sees this fight as hopeless, unwinnable, and gives it up? An important piece of this puzzle is the perception the enemy has of our resolve. If he sees us waver every time we take a hit, then hope for him is still alive, and the fight continues.

I would say that the time table is tied to the Iraqi government's ability to defend itself, and there are probably still a couple of names from the "deck of cards" that we want to take down before we declare victory. Those two are probably the bottom line issues, and how that relates to a calendar is probably irrelevant.

Beyond that, my guess is that we aren't leaving until Syria has been pushed into holding elections. So my guess is we're there for another five years.

[Ronaldus Magnus Reagan]

War goals? Yes. And they should be specific and measurable, and we should be regularly updated on the progress by the president himself.

Isn't it obvious to you? Goals are to have the Iraqi's self-supporting, and the end of the bombings, kidnappings, attacks, etc.

[pissant]

Excellent Post, Doc!

[PaulaB]

I understand your frustration on this Huck..but believe it or not our President is not stupid when it comes to this war...he knows more about that hell pit that we will ever know.

We live in a "drive thru" society...we want our food and war fast and clean. War is never that way. It is frustrating and takes the hearts of great Americans to see it through. Think of WW1 and WW2...

I don't think they are "Bsing" I think they are trying to stop as many terrorists attacks against our soldiers as possible. Our guys are fighting the hounds from hell over there...

God Bless Them

[Congressman Billybob]

Have you read the histories of Germany and Japan, after WW II ended in those two countries? At the beginning of the occupations, we did not have a clue how long it would take to straighten out both of those nations so we could bring (all but a token number of) our troops home. The post-war German history is especially interesting. There was a two-year fight between the Department of Defense and the State Department over what approach to rebuilding Germany was the correct one. This is not an easy process. There is no snap-your-fingers quick answer.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "Gitmo In, Gitmo Out?"

[Dark Skies]

No American should have to die, because the USA is not willing to even name it's enemy.

That is the pivotal issue of the world today.

How can anyone solve a problem without identifying its root cause and then attacking that cause? How can we win a war without identifying the frikken enemy, understanding its weaknesses and attacking those weaknesses?

Quite frankly, our approach is "insane"...if we define insanity, in this case, as "an irrational response to a serious and life threatening problem."

[KC_for_Freedom]

It's not so simple when the only other driver is a traitorous socialist. I mean, c'mon, even you must admit that if you support America, but thought this president has done a bad job, you had NO choice but to vote for him anyway

In another respect it is that simple. The democrats could have picked a candidate that told us what he would do if elected and instead picked a candidate who told us he would not be Bush. (And he is still saying that.) Your complaint should be directed at the opposition party. And I see that it is. But to go farther, now that we think Bush is making some mistake of some kind we should tell him what to do?

As far as support for Bush and the war. I do support him. I think he has missed the boat as far as illegal immigration, but that is not the war with international terror organizations (except that it is a way for them to gain entry although most can get here easily with any number of approaches) most of which are driven by religious fanaticism. My point is that asking a bunch of randomly selected Americans what they think is a very bad idea from the standpoint of policy. Yes, we elected him, and have a right and duty to petition him with any disagreement we wish. But in the final analysis, I don't think the average American on the streets knows what century we are in much less what the administration in DC should do with our troops. I wish the armchair quarterbacks would sign up, advance to the decision making rank of officer in some service and then start making suggestions. (And no, while I worked in sensitive areas of defense, I don't know enough myself to tell the president what to do. I probably would be more agressive than he is, but thats just me.)

[ex-snook]

" Imagine asking FDR in 1942 how much its going to cost, and how long are we going to be over there..."

You raise a good point. That is why the military [draftees included] had to serve for 'the duration' plus 6 months. The metric was unconditional surrender.

[metesky]

Does the phrase coprophage ring a bell?

Yes, but this isn't a Chuck Berry thread.

[an amused spectator]

The Left wants to open a Second Front, in your local mall...

[PaulaB]

I'll name it...it's called Evil...call me a quack if you want but I always think of the fights God sent his people to in the Old Testament....he told them to kill everything and bury it so that all evil is gone....unfortunately we no longer have the heart of the fighting men in the Bible...we try to make peace with those who shake our hands one day and kidnap and behead the next.

I for one think we have been to "soft" in Iraq....if the evil keeps coming...we continue to bury it regardless of what shape it comes in....Here/Iraq/Iran/Saudi whatever it takes is what we have to do.....

[marron]

the military [draftees included] had to serve for 'the duration' plus 6 months. The metric was unconditional surrender.

Thank you.

[RAY]

I heard Nancy Regan's son "Ron" blathering, today, about this poll. My disgust with Nancy's son know no bounds!

[Normal4me]

Who's the enemy?! Radical Islamist. Why are they pissed? Because we are pushing freedom on them. When will we be done fighting? When they either accept freedom or surrender or die.

That should bring ya up to speed a little.