Kerry's Vietnam (Boston Globe painted into a Corner)

Boston Glob ^ | 6/10/05 | GLOBE EDITORIAL

[bitt]

DESPITE THE continuing gripes of his critics, records released this week show that Senator John Kerry served honorably in Vietnam. The documents should put to rest claims that Kerry misrepresented his military record in the presidential race. But Kerry's failure to respond to the smear campaign launched against him last summer lent credibility to its real objective: to impugn his equally honorable opposition to the war.

John O'Neill, a Houston lawyer and Kerry's adversary on the war since 1971, acknowledged as much in a telephone interview Wednesday. ''We produced seven commercials," he said of his anti-Kerry group, now called Swift Vets and POWs for Truth. ''Only one dealt with Vietnam activities." O'Neill was incensed by Kerry's memorable testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1971, in which the young veteran, clad in a combat shirt, criticized the war.

Kerry has said that he may have used a poor choice of words when he cited other veterans' reports of atrocities as being ''in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan." But his basic analysis was sound: Vietnamese and Americans were dying needlessly because the war was a mistake, and US policymakers allowed it to continue even though they were aware that their strategy for victory was failing.

The Swift Boat ads ....snip

[bitt]

hey, the cats need some exercise...

[CedarDave]

I suggest YOU look again at the Form 180. The deleted and undeleted sections apply only to obtaining a copy of DD-214, report of seperation (Section 1). Section 2 is the pertinent section for most of us who have waded through this. It includes copies of other military records that could be held at multiple repositories. If he wanted to really come clean, he (or sycophants Kranish or Brinkley) would show us a Form 180 with a request for more than just a DD-214.

http://www.archives.gov/research_room/obtain_copies/standard_form_180.pdf

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[presently no screen name]

I disagree. It should be repeated as often as possible and IT IS A PRIORITY! It was never finished/completed. ALL THE RECORDS NOW. Until such time, it REMAINS a priority.

[bitt]

yep, they do. Dirty rotten socialist rags owned by elitists that wouldn't know reality it if hit them with a ...747.

[Radix]

"...this is a democracy vote him out..."

The USA is a "Constitutional Republic." That is not quite the same thing as a mob ruled country.

[bitt]

let's not forget that it is Friday night and the trolls are out. As with multiple personalities, as soon as you detect one, the next one crawls out.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Curious Yellow and curtisgardner must be high school drop outs.

One can't read, the other think that the US is a democracy.

[bitt]

Night of the Living Brain Dead

[ken21]

si.

[PeoplesRepublicOfWashington]

Boy, these butt lickers at the Boston Glob will do anything to make sKerry look like a vertebrate.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Col. Geo. "Bud" Day Medal of Honor Vietnam POW 1967-1973 USMC - USA Attorney 1949-2004-

Dear Joe: The major issue in the Swiftboat stories is, and always has been,
what John Kerry did in 1971 after he returned from Vietnam.

Kerry cast a long dark shadow over all Vietnam Veterans with his outright perjury before the Senate concerning atrocities in Vietnam. His stories to the Senate committee were absolute lies.. fabrications.. perjury.. fantasies, with NO substance. That dark shadow has defamed the entire Vietnam War veteran population, and gave "Aid and Comfort" to our enemies..the Vietnamese Communists. Kerry's stories were outright fabrications, and were intended for political gain with the radical left..McGovern, Teddy and Bobby Kennedy followers, Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden, and the radical left who fantasized that George McGovern was going to be elected in 1972. Little wonder that returning soldiers from Vietnam were spit upon and castigated as "baby killers".
A returned war hero said so.

Kerry cut a dashing figure as a war hero, lots of medals, and returned home because of multiple war wounds..even a silver star. His Senate testimony confirmed what every hippie had been chanting on the streets.."Hey hey LBJ..How many kids did you kill today"?????
He obviously was running for political office in 1971.

Until Lt. John O' Neil, himself a Swifboat commander, spoke out before the 1972 elections against Kerry's outright deceptions, there was no one from the Swiftboat scene that could contradict Kerry's self serving lies.

I was a POW of the Vietnamese in Hanoi in 1971, and I am aware that the testimony of John Kerry, the actions of Jane Fonda and Tom Hayden, and the radical left; all caused the commies to conclude that if they hung on..they would win. North Vietnamese General Bui Tin commented that every day the Communist leadership listened to world news over the radio to follow the growth of the anti-war movement. Visits to Hanoi by Jane Fonda and Ramsey Clark gave them confidence to hold in the face of battlefield reverses.
The guts of it was that propaganda from the anti-war group was part of their combat strategy.

While the Commies were hanging on, innumerable U.S. Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Air Foce members were being killed in combat.

Every battle wound to Americans after Kerry's misdirected testimony is related to Kerry's untruthfulness.

John Kerry contributed to every one of these deaths with his lies about U.S. atrocities in Vietnam.



He likewise defamed the U.S. with our allies and supporters.

His conduct also extended the imprisonment of the Vietnam Prisoners of War, of which I was one.

I am certain of at least one POW death after his testimony,
which might have been prevented with an earlier release of the POWs.

I draw a direct comparison of General Benedict Arnold of the Revolutionary War, to Lieutenant John Kerry. Both went off to war, fought, and then turned against their country. General Arnold crossed over to the British for money and position. John Kerry crossed over to the Vietnamese with his assistance to the anti-war movement, and his direct liason with the Vietnamese diplomats in Paris.
His reward. Political gain. Senator..United States.

[presently no screen name]

School's out - it's Friday night. I guess they don't have a date for the prom.

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[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

It appears Mom and Dad just came in and they had to get offline.

[noodler]

Now the old horse faces the glue factory.Why did you wait so long?

[Congressman Billybob]

I understand from the Globe's own coverage of this that Kerry signed the 180 Form to release "all" the records, but only from a single, specified source. (The Globe did not mention this next point, but I paid attention to it. There was time for Kerry to get a "trial run" of what this one repository had, to make sure that nothing scary would come out.)

Read the coverage. See for yourself. Kerry has not signed a "release everything" Form 180. And that is why he also did not sign a "release to anyone" Form 180. He was counting, correctly so far, for the Globe and the L.A. Times, not to pay attention to the game being played.

John / Billybob

[presently no screen name]

They will never be able to 'clean him up'. The dirt is too en grained.

[ken21]

that's funny!

i like that.

[bitt]

'bout time. pretty obvious tag team from DU.