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Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
6-7-2005

Posted on 06/07/2005 1:35:36 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs

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To: littlelilac

I've been thinking that too .. that it was probably a panic situation more than a planned event.


81 posted on 06/07/2005 2:47:34 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

Well, if she didn't do that then why did she go out and have sex with three men? Was she drinking? Was the rohypnol put in her COKE? Who saw her get in the car? Where were her girlfriends? Why didn't anybody get worried at the time? Was she having a falling out with the people on the trip? There are so many questions.


82 posted on 06/07/2005 2:47:39 PM PDT by johnb838 (In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

All that pretty blue water. Damn.


God rest her soul. God help her folks.


83 posted on 06/07/2005 2:47:53 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: FD_Pilot

I do not think that a girl of that caliber would go off with 3 men like that. In fact, I don't know that ANY woman would do that. Unless a date-rape drug was slipped into her drink. Or she was lured away somehow. IT MAKES NO SENSE!!!


84 posted on 06/07/2005 2:47:56 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
Are you usually this unrealistic, even in your daily life? The girl was an honor student, 4.0 average, in a Bible study group, had just been awarded a scholarship. Based on that alone, does it sound like something that someone of that caliber would do?

Have you been to a college lately? Many of those hooking up for sex with people they barely know are "straight A, honor student". Many of those who end up drinking nearly to death are honor students. Many kids, newly adults and on their own for the first time, decide to let loose or rebel for the first time in their lives. The accounts here indicate that she left the bar with three men she did not know, whether they were involved or not. Book smarts don't always equal street smarts or good judgment. Unfortunatly, one mistake can be fatal where in other circumstances it could merely be embarassing.

85 posted on 06/07/2005 2:48:25 PM PDT by LWalk18
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To: johnb838

Good questions. I expect some of them will be answered soon.


86 posted on 06/07/2005 2:49:55 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: af_vet_1981
Misogyny

Hatred of women? Huh? Your reply makes no sense.

87 posted on 06/07/2005 2:50:26 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

hey it happens sometime, when we went to Barbados, my friend didn't want to leave, she had fallen in love with a British doctor, he was a cutie.....

look at the Runaway Bride broad

they just found a girl now woman, in the US, who's been missing for over 10 years, she had a fight with her mother, ran away and never contacted her mother or any family members in all that time, someone came across her working in a store by accident


88 posted on 06/07/2005 2:51:41 PM PDT by littlelilac
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To: PLMerite

LOL, is it appropriate to chuckle on this thread.....

hey didn't you guys watch the Love Boat when people could fall madly in love in the space of a weekend???????

Love, so exciting and new, come on board, we're expecting you,


89 posted on 06/07/2005 2:53:22 PM PDT by littlelilac
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To: LWalk18

I'm with you. I know quite a few honor students that attend church, etc. etc. Those same kids are out gambling with their lives on the weekends. What I finally figured out was that the parents KNEW, but pretended they didn't.


90 posted on 06/07/2005 2:53:56 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
Your reply makes no sense.

Misogyny means it is always the female victim's fault and any theory supporting that premise will do, ie., she must have been asking for it ...

91 posted on 06/07/2005 2:54:58 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: LWalk18
Have you been to a college lately? Many of those hooking up for sex with people they barely know are "straight A, honor student".

I forgot about the new morality, and the new behavior that goes with it - "hooking up", "booty call". Yes, I'm basing my speculation on the old morality. But, still, would a girl have sex with three men? I can see one, but three?

92 posted on 06/07/2005 2:55:12 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: Trust but Verify

I agree.


93 posted on 06/07/2005 2:56:52 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Two books, the Koran and Mein Kampf, advocate violence, murder and hate!)
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To: gopwinsin04
Are they going to lead authorities to the body site?

Wouldn't you think they already have....FBI dive team brought in yesterday, says it all.

94 posted on 06/07/2005 2:57:21 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: CyberAnt

10-4 on that.


95 posted on 06/07/2005 2:58:09 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Two books, the Koran and Mein Kampf, advocate violence, murder and hate!)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

"Seven chaperones ..."


I've heard so many numbers of chaperones. But to have only 7 adults in charge of over 100 students is just plain stupid.


96 posted on 06/07/2005 2:59:00 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: johnb838
"Well, if she didn't do that then why did she go out and have sex with three men? Was she drinking? Was the rohypnol put in her COKE? Who saw her get in the car? Where were her girlfriends? Why didn't anybody get worried at the time? Was she having a falling out with the people on the trip? There are so many questions."

And no answers. Why did the three young men drive off after they saw her talking with the two security guards? Seems like her entire support system broke down that night.

Unless these 2 men confess, or they have more evidence than they are letting on, the case is still wide open for me.

97 posted on 06/07/2005 3:00:26 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp; ArGee
I think you're being a little hard on this poster. He admitted he's not usually afraid to be wrong. It seems to me like he was hoping that's all it was. Some people are natural optimists. I don't think you should get so offended by the post. I've seen a lot worse.

As I have posted, she did an incredibly stupid thing by going off with strangers to begin with. I suppose that makes me a misogynist, too.

98 posted on 06/07/2005 3:01:02 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

it is called exposure to alcohol when you can't handle it, esp at 18

you do stupid things, we've all done stupid things, most of us have been lucky we didn't get hurt or get into major trouble and didn't hurt anyone else in our stupidity

look at the Ecstasy all these kids are taking and you are more likely to give something "a try" on a vacation then perhaps at home

Aruba is hot, really hot, take some E, throw in alcohol and dancing, don't drink enough water - you have a recipe for a death

and yes, ye old slipping a drug in her drink, again if you aren't accustomed to bars etc you might know that you need to be vert careful, again you tend to let your guard down on vacation

when we were in Aruba, we had the deep sea fishing trip from hell, we had this stoned captain [most of us found out later, my sister ascertained this, she was likely smoking joints up with the captain] whilst the rest of us were puking, the waters were choppy that day and he purposely hit the waves to see how many of us he could make sick (some of us were already a little hung you know what I mean)

now my sister and I had done a fair bit of sailing and I am the one that usually has the life jacket on first but on vacation we hadn't even thought about life jackets

now this loser captain came way too close to an huge oil tanker in these choppy waters, my sister who was upstairs and I both had the same thought at the same time, this guy is too close to that tanker, we could get sucked in and crash into the hull, where the hell are the life jackets

of course joke was on this jerk, after four hours of hell, we stopped payment on the cheque, loser took a cheque for the trip, LOL.....so we got the last laugh

but both my sister and I looked at each other and couldn't believe we had been that slack.......


99 posted on 06/07/2005 3:03:42 PM PDT by littlelilac
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To: CyberAnt

These aren't grade schoolers. They are all young adults from what I've read. If I sent my 18 year-old out into the world unequipped to handle this type of situation, I'd be kicking myself all over the place. It sounds tough, but the girl made a very bad choice. It cost her.


100 posted on 06/07/2005 3:04:12 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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