Posted on 05/29/2005 1:28:15 PM PDT by wagglebee
"Raiders of the Lost Ark" is one of my all-time favorite movies, filled with mystery and adventure. It focuses on the search for a biblical artifact and treasure called The Ark of the Covenant. What makes the movie particularly exciting is how closely it mimics (with some added Hollywood flair) the real life hunt for the lost Ark.
History has it that the original Ark was where God manifested His presence on earth beginning in the days of Moses. The Ark was designed as a chest made of acacia wood overlaid with gold. It had four golden rings. Each one attached to a corner. These rings provided a means to carry the Ark by inserting two wooden bars (also overlaid with gold) on either side. Atop the Ark were two golden cherubim spreading their wings over the Ark's cover also known as the mercy seat.
The Ark itself contained the Ten Commandments and was housed in the innermost room of the Jewish Temple called the Holy of Holies. Here it was the center of worship, although actual access to the Ark was permitted only once a year on the Day of Atonement called Yom Kippur. On that day, the high priest would enter the Holy of Holies with the blood of a goat to make atonement for the sins of the Israelites.
Other contents of the Ark included Aaron's rod and a golden pot of manna. Additionally, the Ark is renowned for its mysterious powers. According to the Bible, when the Ark was carried by the people of Israel into battle, it protected the Israelites, supernaturally defeating any adversaries that came before them.
This explains why in the movie "Raiders of the Lost Ark" the Nazis were intent on obtaining it. Their theory (as the story line goes) was that they would be unbeatable if they possessed the Ark and could harness its mysterious powers. Of course, as both the movie and history would have it, things didn't quite work out for the Nazis.
But what of the Ark?
It is believed to have disappeared with the destruction of the First Temple by King Nebuchadnezzar II of Babylon in 586 B.C. The exact whereabouts of the Ark have remained a mystery ever since.
One theory is that the Ark was taken from ancient Jerusalem by Prince Menelik of Ethiopia. Menelik was the son of King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. Menelik purportedly brought the Ark to his country for safekeeping where it currently remains housed in a church in Axum.
Another theory is that the Ark was hidden in a secret chamber housed beneath Jerusalem's Temple Mount. The alleged secret chamber was created by either King Solomon, who built the First Temple, or a subsequent king before the temple was plundered by Nebuchadnezzar.
One version of this theory suggests that in the early 12th century a group of nine Frenchmen known as the original Knights Templars excavated beneath the site of the old Temple of Jerusalem. They retrieved the true Ark of the Covenant and secreted it away.
A second more popular version suggests the Ark is still located in a vault somewhere in the miles of tunnels carved beneath the city of Jerusalem. It is believed the location of the Ark will be revealed when the time is right for the Jewish Temple to be built for the third time.
One famous adherent to this theory is Dr. Vendyl Jones. He is a modern-day explorer and teacher and the true inspiration for the Indiana Jones series. Startling the world, he announced last week on Israel National Radio that he actually knows the location of the Ark.
He says according to ancient documents the Ark is hidden in a secret passage that runs 18 miles south of the Temple Mount into the Judean Desert. Before dismissing his claim as a lark, it is worth noting that Jones published a book in 1959 predicting the precise outbreak of the Six Day War.
He calculated the war in 1967 by analyzing the sequence of events in the First Temple period and transposing them on the Third Temple period. The First Temple period began with its original construction in the days of King Solomon. The Third Temple period began according to Jones with the Jews founding an independent state in the land of Israel in 1948.
Now Jones is convinced that with the help of ancient documents found in Qumran, he has pinpointed the location of the Ark. And armed with the blessing of religious leaders, Jones hopes to reveal the location of the Ark by Aug. 14, which marks the Fast of Tisha B'Av. This holy day commemorates repeated tragedy in Jewish history including the destruction of both the First and the Second Holy Temples.
Jones' plan is simple. It is to drill a borehole into the chamber containing the Ark, drop a pin-camera in and reveal the historic treasure to a watching world.
If Jones is right, many predict this event will turn the world upside down. Jones says this will bring an end to the government's plan to uproot Jews of Gaza and northern Samaria. It also will bring the very idea of any Palestinian state to a screeching halt. In fact, Jones predicts quite the opposite will occur. With the discovery of the Ark, the Jewish people will have the greatest motivation of all time to return to Israel from around the world and rebuild the Temple to house this holy treasure.
Of course, whether Jones actually uncovers the Ark is not the sole issue. Equally compelling is proving once more through science that the Bible is more than just a collection of parables. Are you ready for this?
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All that writing, and you didn't even address the fact that Jesus tells us HE is the New Covenant in Matthew, Luke and Mark. Frankly, everything you say I have no problem with. Jeus is the mediator of the New Covenant. Yet, it was His death and resurrection, the spilling of His blood, which signifies the Covenant. Frankly, the Ark of the Covenant did NOT contain the actual Covenant between God and the Jewish people, the actual agreement. It contained, among other things, the Ten Commandments -the signification of that Covenant.
Also, I have no problem with considering all Christians as the Ark of the New Covenant, though I believe St. Bonaventure was closer noting that the specific reference in Revelations could signify Our Lord, Himself. For example, the rod of Aaron signified the sacradotal nature of his calling in the same way Jesus is our High Priest.
However, the point remains: the symbol of signification of the Old Covenant were the stone tablets, the Ark carried these. By the same token, the signification of the New Covenant was Jesus Christ, and it was Mary who carried Him.
Matthew 1:25 "And he Knew her not *UNTIL* (EOS OU) she brought forth her son, the firstborn (PRWTOTOKON)..."
Edgar J. Goodspeed, unequivocally one of the greatest modern Bible scholars, writes in referring to the incident in Mark 3:
"It is noteworthy that none of Jesus' brothers was included, but the reason is very clear; they did not look upon his great ideas and lofty aims with sympathy and understanding, indeed, they made determined efforts to deter Him from His work and even came with his mother from Nazareth to Capernaum, to Peter's house, to persuade him to give it up."
Mark 6:3 "Is this not the carpenter, the son of Mary, and brother of Jacob (James), Jose (Joseph), and Judah (Jude) and Simon? And are not his sisters here with us?"
"Is this not the carpenter, the son of Mary, and brother of Jacob (James), Jose (Joseph), and Judah (Jude) and Simon? And are not his sisters here with us?" This Markan quote tells us that Jesus had at least two sisters.
OK, now.....
This is the third reference to the 'red heifer' on this thread. What are all of you talking about?....
Zot
See next message for the longish, real reply. :')
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Testing the Faith: 666 wrong number of prophetic beast? |
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Archimedes manuscript yields secrets under X-ray gaze |
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Posted by rface On News/Activism 04/16/2005 8:54:33 PM PDT · 18 replies · 961+ views Tyndale Bulletin 51 | April 15, 2005? | Peter M. Head I post this scholarly paper to compliment the link on DRUDGE:Eureka! Extraordinary discovery unlocks secrets of the ancients Summary:Seventeen newly published manuscripts of the Greek New Testament (comprising a new portion of P77 as well as P100-P115) are introduced and then discussed individually, with special attention to two groups of manuscripts: seven of Matthew and four of John. The material offers important new evidence on a range of text-critical issues and three passages are discussed (Mt. 23:38; Jn. 1:34; Rev. 13:18). I. Introduction:Within the last three years seventeen previously unknown papyrus manuscripts of portions of the New Testament have been... |
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Ark of the Covenant's discovery imminent? |
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Posted by wagglebee On News/Activism 05/29/2005 1:28:15 PM PDT · 261 replies · 4,805+ views WorldNetDaily | 5/28/05 | Dr. Kelly Hollowell "Raiders of the Lost Ark" is one of my all-time favorite movies, filled with mystery and adventure. It focuses on the search for a biblical artifact and treasure called The Ark of the Covenant. What makes the movie particularly exciting is how closely it mimics (with some added Hollywood flair) the real life hunt for the lost Ark. History has it that the original Ark was where God manifested His presence on earth beginning in the days of Moses. The Ark was designed as a chest made of acacia wood overlaid with gold. It had four golden rings. Each one... |
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Exclusive: Real Indiana Jones Locates Lost Ark |
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Posted by Alouette On News/Activism 05/18/2005 11:38:36 AM PDT · 180 replies · 5,921+ views Israel National News (Arutz 7) | May 18, 2005 Dr. Vendyl Jones, the inspiration for the ìIndiana Jonesî series, told Israel National Radio that he is sure he will uncover the hidden Ark of the Covenant before the Fast of Tisha BíAv this summer. The explorer and teacher, who published a book in 1959 predicting the Six Day War based on his analysis of the Jewish Exodus from Egypt up until the First Temple Period, says that employing the same biblical analysis to modern times points to major events that will ìturn the world right side upî this coming June. Dr. Jones left his post as a Christian pastor... |
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Now's the Time to Find Holy Lost Ark (Ark of the Covenant possibly located) |
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Posted by axes_of_weezles On News/Activism 05/25/2005 10:18:09 PM PDT · 98 replies · 2,822+ views Arutz Sheva | 20 May 05 | Unknown/Arutz Sheva An unnamed Kabbalist has granted blessing to famed archeologist Dr. Vendyl Jones to uncover the Holy Ark of the Covenant. Jones plans to excavate the Lost Ark by the Tisha BíAv Fast this summer. The famed archaeologist, the inspiration for the ìIndiana Jonesî movie series, has spent most of his life searching for the Ark of the Covenant. The ark was the resting place of the Ten Commandments, given to the Jewish people at Mount Sinai, and was hidden just before the destruction of the First Temple. The Talmud says the Ark is hidden in a secret passage under the... |
Of course it's a hoax! The real Ark is stored in a large military warehouse in a secret Texas location on the third rack on aisle 347-46. It is on a large wooden crate marked "secret." A guy named Jones was responsible for its recovery and storage. Find Jones and you may learn the secret location.
With Property of US Army stenciled on the crate?
Yep thats the one
Interesting. Of course, sounds more of a political ploy than an archeological find. But we'll see.
Admittedly, names like Levi, Levine and Levitz are typically Jewish but so are names like Goldberg, Lawrence and Einstein and I doubt that there was ever an Einstein tribe.
The Jewish friends that I know have no earthly idea to what tribe they belong and don't care. Perhaps they are not conservative Jews; I don't know.
No cynisism was intended on my part.
Bump for later read!
So, I will focus on the parentage of James.
1. Mark 15:40 There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;
This is at the Crucifixion. Mary the mother of Jesus was not "afar off" as we know from John; additionally, if she was the mother of Jesus, why not just refer to her as this, obviously, this is the "other" Mary from the Gospels.
2. Matthew 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
John 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.
This clearly establishes that there is a third or "other" Mary, the wife of Cleophas, and the mother of James among others. She is probably the Virgin Mary's sister in law or close relative.
Additionally, the second chapter of Matthew clearly indicate that Mary, Jesus and Joseph go into Egypt and only the three of them come out. In Luke 2, speaks of the Holy Family of three going to the temple in Jerusalem with no other children.
In middle east culture, it is unheard of for a younger sibling to rebuke an older sibling and certainly not the oldest. As James, could have been no more than a teenager if he had been born after the journey to the temple, it again makes sense that these "brothers" were older relatives. In Genesis 13:8 and 14:16, Lot is called the "brother" of Abram, yet 11:27 indicates that Lot was Abram's nephew.
Why did the writers of Scripture not make this clearer? Simple, they didn't see the need. This was accepted fact and only centuries later did anyone ever question Mary's Perpetual Virginity. They never foresaw the occasion when this would be questioned. And in fact it wasn't until very recently. ALL of great Protestant Reformers accepted this (I have already posted links to this, so any further ones would be pointless).
Invariably the question then turns to, "why wasn't this spelled out better in scripture?" "God should have foreseen the questions and inspired the authors to spell it out better." To which I offer this for your consideration:
Nowhere in scripture is the Trinity explicitly defined, and probably no tenet of faith is more difficult to comprehend than the Trinity. Wars have been fought, people have died over this controversy, yet the Bible is silent.
I looked under my bed and behind the couch, no Ark there.
Geraldo in front of Al Capone's vault PING!
(double sigh) :-)
At the risk of being called picky, no Jesus doesn't say he is the new covenant. He says that his blood is blood of the covenant. His shed blood is the ratification of the new covenant for all that believe. Yes, belief in Christ is instrumental to the new covenant, but he is not the new covenant. Again, scripture tells what the new covenant is:
Jer 31:33 "But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days," declares the LORD, "I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
The new covenant is this: God says he will write his laws in our hearts and minds. It is ratified, accepted by us, by accepting the shed blood of Christ.
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