Posted on 05/24/2005 6:14:00 PM PDT by CHARLITE
Rojda was 13 when she was raped two years ago by a neighbor in this hardscrabble Kurdish province. In order to "cleanse" her honor, she was forced to marry her attacker in an unofficial Islamic-style ceremony. He later was convicted of raping a 7-year-old boy and has been imprisoned.
But Rojda's troubles were far from over, according to an account of her ordeal provided by her family and attorneys. She allegedly was raped again in March by her father-in-law, who she said demanded she prostitute herself to earn her keep. When Rojda refused, the relatives and attorneys charge, a group of men held her down and sliced off her nose.
Police raided their home after being tipped off by neighbors, who heard her cries. The men were briefly detained, then set free — though they have since been rearrested.
Rojda's story is not unusual: Human rights groups and Turkish officials say violence against women is widespread in Turkey, though statistics are hard to come by because so many attacks go unreported. They blame the violence on poverty, a lack of education and the patriarchal structure prevalent in much of Turkish society.
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No. Did this clueless wonder write something that was too difficult for someone of your superior intellect to comprehend?
There are no comparisons between Christianity and Islam.
I did not attempt to equate the two. Christianity is superior. There is no doubt about that in my mind.
In re to Christianity, the NT (peaceful verses) abrogated OT (violent verses). In re to Islam, Medinan (violent verses) abrogated Meccan (peaceful).
No, duh!
Sickening. And Hollywood wants us to think that Christians are the villians.
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"Another big part of tackling violence against women involves educating men, said Meltem Agduk, a consultant with the United Nations Population Fund".
I never claimed to be of "superior intellect" -- however I do not have the mentality of a gumball, either. And I am quite knowledgeable when it comes to Islam.
You brought up preachers justifying gay rights as an analogy. As no one can find a biblical verse justifying homosexuality, nor is there a biblical verse justifying honor killings.
Sorry if I had insulted you earlier, but I'm a bit sick and tired of Christianity being brought up every time Islam is criticised. Islam is an evil ideology. Jesus loves you. Allah wants you dead.
This is a reflection of the Religion of peace. To think that ANYONE, no matter how far Left they may be, takes these animals for anything more than the barbarians they are, is utterly amazing. They are responsible for just about all wars going on currently around the world, openly advocate violence against innocent people, including many of their clerics from their mosques, are set on world domination, are openly hostile to Western culture and religion, and have NEVER contributed a thing toward the betterment of even their own society. They invent nothing, produce nothing, and only happen to have the good fortune of large oil reserves, with which they blackmail the rest of the world.
They must be defeated, once and for all, using ANY means necessary. If they are allowed to continue to embark on worldwide violence, they will go stronger and more dangerous. And anything they say or promise must be taken with a grain of sand from the desert that surrounds them.
Nothing they say or promise or agree to can be believed, and we must deal with them as we deal with a real clear and present enemy of our society, because that is what they represent to all of us.
Honor killings are done by Islamics because of their barbarous religion. The number of honor killings done by Christians is infinitesimal compared to the Muhammadan numbers. So ya think Islam and Islamic culture just might have something to do with the prevalence of honor killings. Huh?
What about a society that promotes male genital mutilation? Are they okay?
What society (or religion) promotes that?
Christianity would not be the cause of the honor killings. The culture that these people grew up in would be the cause. It is the reason that the Christian father in my first response to you killed his daughter. His cultural beliefs were louder than his religious beliefs. Making all of these people Christians is not going to automatically cure them of their cultural backwards beliefs.
As for clergy that justify "gay rights" in the Bible - LOL! They sure aren't "Christians". That's not Biblical either.
You don't have to convince me of that. Try to convince them though. If you tell them they aren't Christians, do you think they'll take your word for it? And you think I'm the clueless wonder? LOL
As I stated earlier, honor killings ARE IN THE KORAN and part of their religion.
Yes, it is part of their religion. What you stated earlier was that it was *created* in the Koran when it wasn't. The Koran borrowed it from the culture & made it part of the religion.
Honor killings are NOT justified in the Bible and not part of Christianity.
Yes, I know & said so earlier.
See the difference?
Of course I do. Do you do chocolate bunnies & colored eggs to celebrate Easter?
Uh...our society.
Thanks for the ping!
Dish out terms like "clueless wonder" about someone, you had better make sure your intellect *is* superior to the one you're saying it about. ;o)
And I am quite knowledgeable when it comes to Islam.
I've spent more time learning about the culture than I have about the religion.
You brought up preachers justifying gay rights as an analogy.
Very good. As no one can find a biblical verse justifying homosexuality, nor is there a biblical verse justifying honor killings.
True.
Sorry if I had insulted you earlier, but I'm a bit sick and tired of Christianity being brought up every time Islam is criticised.
::Deep breath:: Thank you. Apology accepted. Understand, Christianity is not all the same, everywhere you go. In some places it leans more medieval than we're used to in the west.
Islam is an evil ideology.
I agree! Jesus loves you.
Yes, He does. He also loves those who do not love Him & wants nothing less than all of us to come home to Him.
Allah wants you dead.
Allah is the Arabic word for god. To be correct, Allah should not be used when speaking in English. Then again, I think crazy Mo said that the Koran shouldn't be translated away from it's original Arabic, because it can mess up the meaning of it all. LOL IMO, the worst thing he did was say that he was the *last* prophet & that his teachings were the final word.
This sounds so familiar. Oh, yeah...Deuteronomy 22.
"I'm saying that the crap is advocated by a gnarly backwards culture & Islam followed in that area, rather than starting it. If you say it's due to Islam, you're missing much of the reason the crap goes on."
Forgive me for jumping in, but whether a backward culture was the original cause or not seems irrelevant. So what if the practice pre-dates islam? It's islam that chose to (and chooses to) embrace the practice as something dictated by their God. It's Islam above all other societal forces that currently provides the excuse for the willfully backward to remain backward. And it provides the muscle to hold back or destroy those who strain toward the light.
You want to seperate the culture from the religion, but with islam that can't be done.
Get a load of this little taste of hell.
While they are busy being horrified by the evils of Islam, they conveniently ignore other tragedies. Although, I'm sure someone will try to justify that Atlanta church directing the congregation to beat children during its services while the children were held up in the air. Spare the rod, spoil the child, maybe?
True.
The number of honor killings done by Christians is infinitesimal compared to the Muhammadan numbers.
Have you ever heard of a Christian honor killing being done by a westerner, living in a western country? If Christianity was the total cure, there should be no difference in percentages of Christians doing it, no matter where they lived.
So ya think Islam and Islamic culture just might have something to do with the prevalence of honor killings. Huh?
The religion is responsible for dragging the barbaric, dark ages practice into modern times. It is responsible for keeping wide swatches of cultures stuck in the middle ages.
Is it still covered by medical insurance or do people have to pay to cut their kids, now?
Show me where anything close to resembling the depravity of Islam has been practiced by Christians and Jews on the level of these Muslim freaks.
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