Posted on 05/24/2005 5:44:11 AM PDT by jdsteel
Before we explode in disgust about the RINO defectors, please consider this: IF the nominated judges get an up or down vote, we win. If a nominated judge gets blocked by filibuster again, we can still "pull the trigger" on the constitutional option...this time with "betrayed and outraged moderates" leading the way. As much as I want to just respond to this emotionally, I am trying to show patience to see how this pans out over the next month. I also am looking forward to seeing how the DUmmies seeth as judges are nominated. So, please, "hold your powder" but keep your eye on the target.
I'll bet you believed Bill Clinton could not survive his scandals. What part of the co-presidency of Bill and Hillary Clinton had a 58 percent job approval rating the day they left office escapes you. All the polling showed Bill Clinton would have beat George W. Bush in 2000.
Hillary will carry New York, all of New England, the west coast including California. She will carry the same States Kerry did.. There is just one majro difference. Hillary will carry Ohio.
Gay rights, and abortion kept Ohio in the Bush Column. The Republican's in the Senate just blew that voting block. When the Republicans compromised with the Democrats on Judicial nominees they just told their margin of victory in Ohio to shove it. As a result Hillary will carry Ohio.
It will not be close.
"They established that they can obstruct a president for five years with no payback".
As always is the case for the dems - there is never any consequence for bad (or illegal, or unethical) behavior.
They remind me of the situation of the Muslims beheading hostages which gets a yawn from the world, but any humiliation directed at them gets worldwide outrage. Is it not a very similar analagy?
Bump!
That is exactly the point that I tried to make in my vanity thread yesterday.
I just heard Frist on the floor. He said there will be votes on all nominees and if the obstruction continues, the nuclear option will be invoked again.
Bill Clinton could win the presidency right now if he were constitutionally able to run. But Hillary isn't Bill. She carries too much baggage and is too much of a flashpoint. I predict she won't even get the nomination.
Absolutely.
Just like the DU loonies spend too much time sitting around in fear of Karl Rove, the right spends and wastes too much time sitting around in fear of Hillary Clinton.
It won't mean anything unless he can enforce a little party discipline. Those seven senators agree with Reid Bush's nominees are 'extremists' & will vote them down anyway if it comes to the entire senate.
I will tell you the number, 0.1%.
I keep looking, but I can't seem to find where the Seven Dwarves are named! I know of McCain, and Collins. Who are the others?
Name The Seven Dwarves so we all know who the traitors are!
Check post# 126
The Seven Dwarves or The Seven Weasels:
http://mccain.senate.gov/ (202) 224-2235
http://lgraham.senate.gov/ (202) 224-5972
http://warner.senate.gov/ (202) 224-2023
http://snowe.senate.gov/ (202) 224-5344
http://collins.senate.gov/ (202) 224-2523
http://dewine.senate.gov (202) 224-2315
http://chafee.senate.gov/ (202) 224-2921
Well I actually agree with your "absolutists" that Pryor has taken some troubling actions.
My point is simply that it's proof that the Dims LOST in this compromise by now "allowing" Pryor, of all people, to slip through to confirmation with hardly a peep.
Dims have let down their most zealous financial contributors/special interest groups (PFAW, NOW, NARAL et al) --who are absolutely incensed over Pryor's statement (calling Roe "the worst abomination in the history of Constitutional law"). Letting Pryor through shows the Dims had no choice but to cave.
Not really a perceptive reply in that if you still live in the U.S., you also will get wet.
Excellent point. I was outraged, until I saw this post...
Indeed, we've lost several judges. In return, we'll get the 3 most conservative confirmed. Here's the real questions: WHAT'S IN IT FOR THE DEMOCRATS? The only answer, I believe, is dignity (face-saving).
Point #1: They've (dems) agreed to confirm the "conservative" judges (thereby agreeing they are not "extraordinary circumstances"). Point #2: Dems agreed not to filibuster in the future unless "extreme circs."
DNC top senators must have approached the GOP, and said something along these lines: "Listen, we both know that we (dems) have painted ourselves into a corner. Give us a way out, and you win." Anyone read Sun Tzu? Never back an enemy into a corner without an escape route (granted, there can be exceptions). A fight-to-the-death is what ensues when a beaten enemy has no escape route.
Does this logic make sense to people?
chris
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