Posted on 03/24/2005 7:22:09 AM PST by ConservativeMan55
Edited on 03/24/2005 7:43:21 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
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Michael Schiavo has filed a petition with the Supreme Court asking them to stay out of the case.
"Many times in history, one person has made all the difference.
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Yes, and most often by dying. After Terri's death, it will be time to address these issues. They're complex ones, and cannot be fully addressed in a day, a week, or even more.
Terri's death will bring this entire issue to the forefront. Do we want people to be able to withdraw life support at all? Apparently we do. Is a verbal statement to a spouse sufficient? Apparently it is.
All of these questions can be addressed, but not today.
me too.....I am just so angry about this ......soon, I will go and bake some Easter cookies, or boil the eggs for decorating....some activity that helps me remember the Easter season, something that is hard to find with the bad news about Terri.....
"Let her go"??? by forcing her to die of thirst?
Your argument to let her die is specious. Of course she is better off in Heaven. We all are. But even given that, God commanded us not to murder. Not even ourselves. No one has the right to take an innocent life; not even Terri can authorize someone to kill her. That's why Kevorkian was stopped (thank God).
Terri has never gotten a fair trial. All these judges are covering for each other because they covet their unbridled power.
Someday you or I could be a useless eater like Terri. God help us if the only advocate we have is a monster like M. Schiavo or Felos who then tells everyone else what we "wanted."
I understand your point, and don't disagree. I was simply saying that one person CAN make a difference. Sounds like you think so too.
"Considering the Normans were French, now that you mention it, it's not too bad an idea."
Yeah, but you can't use some of those good old Anglo-Saxon words here on FR, I'm afraid. You have to use the French substitutes.
I believe Terry is better off in Heaven.
My opinion. You won't change it, just like I won't change yours.
Gatorgirl is a FL atty and familiar with the case. i am punting because i am due at the dentist for relief from some dental distress that i am having.
"I am wondering if Gov. Bush is just waitinng for Greer to rule this last time and then make his move."
I hope and pray you are right.
No, it is based on what God commands. When the law conflicts with God, the law must not be followed by Christians.
32All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34Then the King will say to those on His right hand, "Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.'
"Whoever lives in an open state of adultery shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison not exceeding two years, or in the county jail not exceeding one year, or by fine not exceeding five hundred dollars. Where either of the parties living in an open state of adultery is married, both parties so living shall be deemed to be guilty of the offense provided for in this section."
Adultery is a crime in Florida. Will someone with the right connections please use this as a point of attack on Michael Schiavo's guardianship? Anybody?
"Saying something to the that effect" to each other is not necessarily legal and binding. Get it in writing. Just in case.
Why would you have an opinion in a matter between my wife and I?
I don't have an opinion on a matter between you and your wife and I won't as long as her desires are clearly written and/or the circumstances surrounding your desires are not suspect.
That's a fairly normal progression for anoxic brain failure. The tissue dies from lack of oxygen, but would still show up on the CT scan as normal. A couple of days later, it begins to break down and be replaced with cerebro-spinal fluid.
Don't make too much of this. It's a normal result.
YOu worry too damn much. No new judicial precendents have been created by this case. Peolpe have been free to refuse medical care for years. All of the Federal courts just refused to give Terri a temporary stay to allow the feeding tube to reinserted. The Federal law passed Sunday night was clearly unconstitutional and would have been struck down. No new legal prescendents have been set. This whole thing would have been moot if you could have gotten three or four more votes in the Florida legislature. Suggest you go back there later and get the law rewritten and insist that your state legislature do the same.
Just a quick word here on FR .........
I love you guys/girls. Such a wonderful opportunity to discuss, rant, get information, get news and learn.
Don't possibly know what I would do without all of you.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1367855/posts?page=1401#1401 <-- Link
MineralMan: It depends where you are. In most states, the next of kin can cancel life support after consultation with the physician. It happens every day. A young person is in a car accident and is brain dead. Parents have to make a decision about maintaining their body in a lifelike state. Most decide to let the son or daughter die and remove the life support. Same with parents. Every day, in hospitals all over this country, children make decisions about life support for their parents, whether there's a living will or not. Surely you know this.Thought you might find that useful, because we are not looking for a general proposition about "removing life support" for an otherwise terminal patient. We are talking about provoking the demise of a patient based on our perception of their mental capaicty and our belief about whether they would choose to commit suicide because they are in that diminished capacity.Cboldt: The subject isn't brain dead people. It is PVS (and as you know, that diagnosis is contested .. but even if it was not), and the law is different then. As far as I know, the law looks for an Advance Directive from the living patient. THis is different from looking for the advanced directive of a brain dead patient. Cboldt: So, do you have a cite for the proposition that somebody other than the PATIENT has a legal right to decide, when the PATIENT is in PVS? I understand that state laws may differ on that point. State law in Florida give the power (to decide) to the PATIENT and NOBODY ELSE
I have not seen one bit of evidence that he is going to get millions of dollars. In fact, the one thing I did see about money showed that there was almost no money left in the trust.
AND EVERYONE, LISTEN TO RUSH RIGHT NOW!
Yesterday he was just ON FIRE in his complete DISGUST with those on the side of Terri's starvation. He made SO many awesome points. SO many.
Roger that, Luis!
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