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Schiavo Appeal Has Been Filed
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Posted on 03/22/2005 6:13:43 AM PST by sonsofliberty2000

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KEYWORDS: clausvonschiavo; deathocrats; dothewillofgod; euthanasia; godhelpus; goodforgopin06; governmentinstrusion; judicaltyranny; judicialcoup; medicalmurder; meninblack; parentsrights; politcalgain; schiavo; t4; terri; terrischiavo
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To: AaronInCarolina
Yes, but how ironic is it that you could also be charged with a crime if you tried to give her a drink of water?

There were four people who were arrested a couple of days ago for doing just that. What kind of a monstrous system is it that arrests people for trying to save the life of an innocent woman? Can anyone here really tell me with a straight face that this is not evidence of a world gone mad?

461 posted on 03/22/2005 8:03:32 AM PST by chimera
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To: keysguy

"Sorry, but I am legally ignorant. I thought everyone had the right to pursue happiness and life, guess that changed somewhere along the line."

Apparently ONLY those who can directly speak up for themselves.

The unborn and now the handicapped can not have that right.


462 posted on 03/22/2005 8:03:43 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: AaronInCarolina
I thik the post speaks for itself. He files an affadavit as to her condition he examines her? Isn't that just as bad as the experts who claim she is PVS after spending only a short time examining her? He claimed she's NOT PVS, but hadn't examined her yet.
463 posted on 03/22/2005 8:03:57 AM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: All

(Note: In January of 1993, a jury awarded Michael $350,000 for loss of consortium, and $750,000 went into a medical trust for all of Terri's future rehabilitative care, which was based on the testimony of Michael stating that he wanted to care for Terri for the rest of his life. If Terri should die, Michael would inherit the balance of the trust fund. Not only did Mr. Schiavo not provide Terri with rehabilitation, he has denied his wife any and all therapy, against Doctors' recommendations, since the 1993 malpractice award.)

Taken from Terri's Website "Timeline" (on left) at
http://www.terrisfight.org

This is only one of three medical malpractice suits where Michael received mega$ on behalf of Terri


464 posted on 03/22/2005 8:04:11 AM PST by Daisy4
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To: Tree of Liberty

Thank you! What we desperately need is that they at least allow Terri to get some food and water while this thing is decided... at least buy some time until the case can get to an actual human being.


465 posted on 03/22/2005 8:04:19 AM PST by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: glory2
Yet, we sit and watch this girl in front of us being killed and because she is handicapped the media,physicians and liberals do not feel her life has value or worth.

And the people who want Terri dead ALSO support the Americans with Disabilities Act!

466 posted on 03/22/2005 8:04:51 AM PST by Theodore R. (Why does the GOP continue to fiddle while Terri burns?)
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To: bigeasy_70118
It just galls me that this judge took so long to issue his flawed ruling.

I hope and pray that the appeals court will overturn it quickly.

In the event of their failure to do so, I hope the President and the Attorney General are standing by to give Terri emergency "injunctive relief".

Are they not responsible for enforcing the laws of the United States?
467 posted on 03/22/2005 8:04:53 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, Terri Schiavo will live.)
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To: lsee

I think Judge Greer will become the social pariah, just like Judge Blackmun did. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes. The scent of death will follow him for all the remainder of his days and he will answer to his Maker on his Day of Judgment. Michael's girlfriend is crazy if she marries him after Terri's death, having first hand knowledge of the value he places on the life of a spouse. She and her children ought to immigrate NOW to a safe haven. And Michael would be doing everyone and himself a favor by taking a long walk off a short pier.


468 posted on 03/22/2005 8:05:16 AM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: conservativewasp
If I were Terri's father,back in the 90's, Michael would not have moved Terri anywhere. My friend S&W would have spoke up and very loudly.
469 posted on 03/22/2005 8:05:25 AM PST by keysguy (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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To: Zechariah_8_13

By the way guess where OJ wound up.


470 posted on 03/22/2005 8:06:07 AM PST by keysguy (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

BTTT!


471 posted on 03/22/2005 8:06:11 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: traderrob6

>>The law passed by Congress states that the finding of facts by the state court must NOT be determinative.<<

Exactly.


472 posted on 03/22/2005 8:06:15 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: ContemptofCourt
You mean that the court appointed guardians would not allow her to be examined? Is this really what you are saying?

Absolutely. At least not by doctors that were of the opinion that she could improve. My understanding of the case is that everything has hinged upon the 5 doctors who were a part of the original trial for tube removal: 2 Schiavo-appointed doctors, 1 Greer-appointed doctor and 2 Schindler-appointed doctors (one of which was Dr. Hammesfahr). Based upon Judge Greer's opinion of these 5 doctors (an opinion which I read the transcript of), it basically came down to 3 to 2, although in Greer's finding it was more like 3-0 because he wrote that he found the opinions of the 2 Schindler doctors to be not credible. Everything else that I have read has lead me to understand that no other Schindler doctors have been allowed to examine Terri since that decision. Please correct me if you know differently.
473 posted on 03/22/2005 8:06:19 AM PST by AaronInCarolina
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To: soundandvision
"You can't regrow a brain, Larry".

What is interesting is the new knowledge that certain parts of the brain can take over some functions that were controlled from a different part.

Of course, that requires ongoing threapy..

474 posted on 03/22/2005 8:06:38 AM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: chimera
What kind of a monstrous system

Pinellas County,FL, current center of American injuustice

475 posted on 03/22/2005 8:07:01 AM PST by Theodore R. (Why does the GOP continue to fiddle while Terri burns?)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

I suppose you could say that I have an old, worn-out, defective wife. The not yet healed scars from her cancer surgery last month have destroyed the engaging symmetry of her breasts, and the future costs of imaging, chemotherapy, radiation treatments, and more surgery make her hardly worth keeping - except that she is my wife, and will remain that "as long as we both shall live". Even with the living wills and other such preparations, the time might come when I face a decision like Michael's - the possibility is real, and perhaps not that remote. But if, and when, I do, it will be a decision of love and respect, earned through decades of devotion, not neglect and abandonment of an inconvenient impediment.

Michael Schiavo has transferred such feelings as he might ever have had for Terri to his paramour, and by that has surrendered his right to speak for her. I have heard some of his apologists speak of the bond between husband and wife in cosmic terms - holy matrimony, to be put asunder by no man. But in fact, it is a tender bond, easily surrendered by either party not devoted to maintaining it.

No evidence has been presented that Terri ever failed to honor her marriage, fully and completely. But the story for Michael is far more sinister. His relationship with another woman is open and notorious; his conflict of interest versus Terri is obvious. She deserves a representative of her own interests, and a competent, honest judge who will follow the actual law and evaluate the actual facts.

Judge Greer is legally blind, and thus was never competent to judge the only evidence of Terri's humanity. She cannot speak, or manipulate her environment to communicate with others, but she can see, recognize, and appreciate her surroundings to an extent that can be appreciated only visually, a mode unavailable to this judge. He should have recused himself on that basis alone, but chose instead to become the sole arbiter of fact in this case. Many other courts and judges have reviewed this case in legal terms, but all have been prevented from carrying out a de novo review of the facts.

According to the US Supreme Court, no serial murderer, no matter how heinous and depraved the crime, can receive a death sentence without the unanimous consent of a jury. But this single judge has seized this power for himself in the case of this innocent woman, and holds to it like the grim death he chooses to visit on her. It is not hard to understand where the depravity lies in this case.


476 posted on 03/22/2005 8:07:46 AM PST by MainFrame65
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To: sonsofliberty2000
I do believe the semantics of this case are the problem. It has been posed as a "right to die" problem when it is a "mercy killing problem." It surely fits all the criteria for mercy killing except it is not an individual but a whole society that has decided to prematurely and actively terminate a life.

Ordinarily, individuals who do this are characterized by feelings of being invincible, clever and disdainful of those who are incapable. There is also a "survivor" motivation that is found in Elias Canetti's Crowds and Power. Here, the human tendency to both lament a death is overpowered by a feeling of elation on not being dead. This is a powerful motif in groups, masses and crowds as Canetti documented so carefully. He was rewarded with the Nobel Prize in 1980 but since has slipped into obscurity.

Quite interestingly, of the two most medically proven cases of mercy killing neither of the perpetrators went to jail In 1975 two nurses at a Veterans Hospital killed scores using a muscle relaxant. They were tried with overwhelming physical evidence but after appeal were released. Similarly, a case in Toronto where digitalis was used resulted in the perpetrator being released.

The point of all this, is that in some biological and psychological way a considerable portion of the population ascribes to "mercy killing" regardless of the flawed logic and cruelty of their belief. Someone should write a book about the motives and findings of medical and non-medical mercy killings. There are dark secrets here that no one dares tell the truth about.

477 posted on 03/22/2005 8:08:38 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: All

Has the make-up of the appeals court, in Atlanta, changed since the Elian Gonzales case? If not, she is doomed. Utterly shameless, and the Dims have had their final glory.


478 posted on 03/22/2005 8:09:17 AM PST by thelastvirgil (Idiot-proof ANYTHING, and someone will build a better idiot.)
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To: JCEccles

This issue isn't splitting the American people along the lines of Republican and Democrat so much as among the decent vs. the uncaring.
No need to reply if you feel insulted. Rather, ponder your values. If you still feel the same way, ponder longer.


479 posted on 03/22/2005 8:09:24 AM PST by jjmcgo
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To: yldstrk

Michael's girlfriend, like her late mother, is an active participant in Terri's murder. Mrs. Clara Schiavo, mother of the Schiavo trio, opposed Terri's murder, and she was dehydrated and starved thereafter.

MRS will in the future become as popular and "respected" for euthanasia as Gloria Steinem and Margaret Sanger became for abortion. He will never regret what he did: his heart lacks the capacity for regret for wrongdoing.


480 posted on 03/22/2005 8:09:36 AM PST by Theodore R. (Why does the GOP continue to fiddle while Terri burns?)
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