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Deceit, Thy Name Is Islamism
Isralert.com source ^ | Beth Goodtree

Posted on 03/13/2005 1:11:03 PM PST by jan in Colorado

In Islam, lying or omissions for the 'greater good,' according to a strict or radical Islam/Islamist philosophy is not only acceptable, it is holy and blessed work. It is called al-Takeyya (or al-Taqiyya) and is a strategy outlined in the Hadiths and supported by various interpretations of some of the Suras in the Koran. We have just seen it in action and most people never even caught the whiff of mental ether the Islamists were pouring into the airways of the already comatose and choking non-Islamist world.

Al-Takeyya is a policy whereby a Muslim may lie, deceive or omit critical truths if it promotes the spreading of Islam AND the conquest of the non-Muslim world. According to William P. Welty, Ph.D., al-Takeyya/Taqiyya is:

"The Islamic principle of lying for the sake of Allah. Falsehoods told to prevent denigration of Islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of Islam are sanctioned by the Qur'an, including lying under penalty of perjury in testimony before the United States Congress, lying or making distorted statements to the media such as claiming that Islam is a religion of peace and deceiving fellow Muslims when the one lying has deemed them to be apostates." (1)

And here is the definition from an Islam encyclopedia website:

"The word "al-Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing or disguising one's beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies..." (2)

Now here's where the latest Islamist sneak maneuver of al Takeyya/Taqiyya comes into play. The Islamic Commission of Spain issued a decree against al-Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden. They did this in response to the bombing of a Madrid train last year by al Qaeda.

Mansur Escudero, head of the Federation of Islamic Religious Entities, called on clerics to formally condemn terrorism and pray for all terror victims. He went on to state, ''The terrorist acts of Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda organization ... which result in the death of civilians, such as women and children ... are totally prohibited and are the object of strong condemnation within Islam.''

Sounds good so far.

But let's examine what this man did not say, as well as the timing of his little media-sensation fatwa.

This fatwa was timed to coincide with the 1-year anniversary of the bombing in Madrid. Sure, several hundred people died, but this is not the first time that hundreds, nay, thousands of people have died at the hands of Muslims merely because they weren't Muslim.

Therefore, one must ask why was there no such fatwa issued in the aftermath of 9-11? And why has no fatwa about the "...death of civilians, such as women and children'' ever been issued regarding the thousands upon thousands of Jewish/Israeli victims of genocidal terror ever been issued?

I will tell you why. This is al-Takeyya/Taqiyya at its most devious and deceptive. And the key word here is 'civilians.'

In radical Islam (Islamism), any Jew living in Israel is not considered either 'innocent' or a 'civilian.' Nor were the people living and working in America on 9-11. Islamists consider the 'Great Satan -- America,' and the 'Little Satan -- Israel,' to be enemy combatants. And this includes every man, woman or child, even babes in arms, even sleeping or in school or playing in playgrounds. This includes any and all who are not Islamists and who oppose being forced to kneel down and pay homage to Allah or his followers. In particular, Christians (whom they call 'Crusaders'), and Jews.

This also includes those of us who refuse to allow the Islamists to insidiously inject their politico-religious dogma into our way of life. And this especially includes Israel, whom the Islamists view as a polluting force in their quest for 'Arab unity' and a Judenrein Middle East.

So the fatwa issued by this Muslim cleric living in Spain was meant to put the free and civilized world into yet another coma. He was hoping we would see this supposedly 'peaceful and tolerant' religious edict and sing the praises of Islam and remind each other how it is a 'peaceful' religion, even though the word 'Islam' also means 'to submit,' and our utter and complete submission is what they are working towards.

The crafter of this latest religious edict, so proudly trumpeted to the world, has achieved nothing more than a clumsy attempt to delude us into thinking that Islamism is really nice and honorable and loving and peaceful. It is also meant to deceive us into believing that even though such edicts were never issued -- and will never be issued -- regarding Americans or Israelis, these particular Muslims are mainstream moderates.

Camel cakes! We are now familiar with the ploy of lying, omissions and deceit as sanctioned by al-Takeyya/Taqiyya. And some of us are not in a humanist/liberal feel-good coma like lambs going to the slaughter. And we will continue to alert you to the deceptions used by the Islamists.

The lesson to be learned here is not to look for what is said, but what is deliberately not said. If anything, this fatwa, by its omissions and timing (or lack thereof) has simply reinforced the fact that the Islamists do not see Israel or Judeo-Christian America as 'innocent.' It has reaffirmed that they see us all as ripe for deceit and murder in the name of Allah.


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To: Fred Nerks

I was at university today--saw a young lady (about 23-24 or so) who left islam in a quick hurry. When I asked why, she said the entire fmily left islam because they realized they were in amongst the pure evil of the world. It was something they wanted nothing to do with , but could not leave until safely away from the family that still remained "faithful".

Pretty awful that a ''religion'' instills such fear.


361 posted on 03/17/2005 10:33:12 PM PST by swordfish71 (There is no storm like the PERFECT ROVIAN STORM!)
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To: swordfish71

Fear of their own families. Yes, it really must be awful for them. The Net is filled with stories such as this. It's no wonder the clerics lie about how many people convert to islam, there are more running away than joining it.
In Australia, an imam tells them that to preserve their islamic identity, they should return to their country of origin. The clerics are terribly afraid of Western influence on the followers. Muslims want to live as we do, they want to go to work, buy homes, raise a family...go to the beach, footballs games; the best thing we can do for muslims is help them to leave islam and live normal lives.
PRESERVING THE ISLAMIC IDENTITY IN THE WEST:
This article straight from the imam's website might give you some idea of what the clerics are afraid of.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/GoPostal/commentdetail.asp?ID=12226&commentID=260388


362 posted on 03/17/2005 11:03:06 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: jan in Colorado; TBP
For you to even attempt to compare Christianity with islam would be insulting if it wasn't so ludicrous.

eXACTLy -- Christianity is founded on peace and love. Even when the Crusaders went to war to defend Christianity, they wondered if they should really kill. An act of violence by a Christian is something that is contrary to our basic teachings and for which we ask for God's grace. However, an act of violence by aMuslime is just him following the word of Mohammed.
363 posted on 03/17/2005 11:50:55 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: TexasCowboy; Fred Nerks
You can love the muzzies all you want, maggot, but read the Quran before you make that decision.

I suspect our 'friend', the TrueBornPakistani has read the Quran quite often and quite well, going by the defense he makes of it and his attacks on Christ in other posts (stating that Christ never existed, but is a fabrication of myriad pagan gods like Krishna, Osiris, etc. etc.)

I don't hate Mussies, I hateIslam -- hate the sin, not the sinner. I'm sure you feel the same way Tex.
364 posted on 03/17/2005 11:53:59 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: appalachian_dweller
They are only being good Muslimes. If they were BAD Muslimes, they would not follow the Koran and they would not hate Jews, Christians and other infidels and they would not want to kill us. I suspect our 'friend' on this board belongs to the first category/
365 posted on 03/18/2005 12:00:33 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Bennett46

I don't know where they get the idea of calling us Racist. I don't dislike Arabs -- I have Arab CHRISTIAN friends and they are some of the best people around. The problem is the cult, not the ethnicity.


366 posted on 03/18/2005 12:02:51 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: appalachian_dweller
How about a comparision between the teachings of koran vs. the Bible.

I've seem a beautiful example of that somewhere around here in FR, can't remember who made it!
367 posted on 03/18/2005 12:03:35 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Fred Nerks; broadsword

What happened to broadsword?? I think I talked to him some months ago.


368 posted on 03/18/2005 12:05:10 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Jorge
I was addressing these knee-jerk extremists who see pictures like the one you posted and suggest we totally outlaw the religion of Islam.

Well, Jorge, taking an analogy -- do you think it is right we should ban the Nazi party and its ideology in the US? Should we allow them free rein?

Are Slam and Naziism similar? Read the Koran and you will find that Naziism borrowed a lot of its bloodthirstiness from the slamic source.
369 posted on 03/18/2005 12:12:18 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: TexasCowboy

Whoa Cowboy, easy on there, we dont' want you banned


370 posted on 03/18/2005 12:13:17 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Cronos

TrueBornPakistani...LOL!


371 posted on 03/18/2005 12:24:16 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: Cronos

broadsword; banned (again)

LONG LIVE BROADSWORD!


372 posted on 03/18/2005 12:25:45 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Is there no way we can ask the mods to unban him?


373 posted on 03/18/2005 12:30:17 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Cronos

...you could try but he did have two chances, he just couldn't help himself, he kept right on telling the truth...


374 posted on 03/18/2005 1:27:37 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: Jorge; swordfish; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; ariamne; Former Dodger
"I thought we had religious freedom in America"

Your error is in assuming islam to be a valid religion...it is not.
islam is more of a Contagion that slowly slithers across civilization killing, raping, and maiming in the name of some cardboard entity called allah...(may he roast in pig fat)
375 posted on 03/18/2005 2:39:00 AM PST by yer gonna put yer eye out (Will quip for food...)
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To: Jorge; swordfish71; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; ariamne; Former Dodger

"I thought we had religious freedom in America"

Your error is in assuming islam to be a valid religion...it is not.
islam is more of a Contagion that slowly slithers across civilization killing, raping, and maiming in the name of some cardboard entity called allah...(may he roast in pig fat)

Excuse double post...I got swordfish's screen name wrong on first try...


376 posted on 03/18/2005 2:41:24 AM PST by yer gonna put yer eye out (Will quip for food...)
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To: swordfish71

Many thanks for the ping.......


377 posted on 03/18/2005 2:42:08 AM PST by yer gonna put yer eye out (Will quip for food...)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks, Fred, I needed that. Actually, it's a fun way to START my day today.


378 posted on 03/18/2005 3:42:04 AM PST by Former Dodger ("The high-minded man must care more for the truth than for what people think." --Aristotle)
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To: Cronos; nopardons; Eaker; Alouette; free_european; backhoe; broadsword; appalachian_dweller; ...
"I don't hate Mussies, I hateIslam -- hate the sin, not the sinner. I'm sure you feel the same way Tex."

I do, up to a point.

When I lived in the MidEast with them, there were many who worked for the same oil company for whom I worked. I was "semi-friends" with several, but you can't ever be friends with anyone unless you trust them. I never trusted the muzzies.
They made no pretensions about their first allegiance being to Islam, and they never tried to soften the accusation that I was an infidel.
This was back in 1976, and I have no idea what it's like now; I sure wouldn't want to find out.

When I went sightseeing down to the Arab section after work to have a beer (muzzies don't drink? Think again!), I saw some of the same people, and they'd buy me a beer for coming down.
It was no different than a lot of American bars.
They were nice to me because they knew that on the drill site, I'd make sure they were treated well. I'd provide a water buffalo behind a sand dune during Ramadan for them to surreptitiously get water during the 130* temperatures, and they were making more money than they'd ever dreamed of making.
Through it all, I had the distinct feeling that I was an outsider and less of a person than they were because I was an infidel. This is a feeling I got nowhere else in the world I have worked.

So, when I say that I hate the sin and love the sinner, that is true to a point.
God forgive me, but when a person's belief system commands them to kill me because I don't believe as they do, I start hating the sinner, also.
I have to put myself in the position of being back there with four terrorists chopping my head off, and a multitude of people standing around watching and cheering. Then I hate the whole billion plus Muslims in the world because they have proved that is exactly what they would do.

I have some understanding of the enablement of the Muslims in a predominately Muslim society. They would be killed, also, if they did anything to stop it.
My major anger and hatred is directed toward the Muslims living here in America, taking advantage of a better life style than they could ever achieve in their home country, a lifestyle for which our ancestors gave their blood and lives to preserve, who are protected by our laws from the viciousness of Islam, yet stand silent as these atrocities are committed by their insane brothers.

In this case, I cannot truthfully say that I hate the sin, but love the sinner. They have become inseparable in my mind.
IF there were a general uprising in the American Muslim community denouncing these acts of terror, I would be the first to say, "Thank you, God, for showing them the way", and I'd be the first to welcome them to the 21st Century.

For my consolation, I don't require them to all convert to Christianity. I don't care if they're Buddhists, Hindus or whatever. I've had real friends all over the world who held different beliefs than mine, but I cannot abide Islam.

I'm sorry for the long rant.
I know my posts get a little extreme. I feel very strongly about this issue.
Islam is a vile creeping disease whose intent is to wipe out our society and replace it with their own.
I will go down fighting for what my brother and all my brothers-in-arms fought to preserve.

May God bless America and keep her strong for our children and grandchildren.

379 posted on 03/18/2005 6:13:29 AM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: All
One question for all the muzzie apologists, then I'll shut up:

Have any of you ever seen a live beheading? Or hands chopped off? Or a stoning?

I've seen the first two.

I'll venture to say that if you ever saw any of these things, you'd change your mind about the benevolence of Islam.

380 posted on 03/18/2005 6:35:26 AM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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